Re: [RBW] Re: WTB new Rivendell saddle or other saddle with proper bag loops

[Patrick Moore]

I've often installed longer straps to attach bags directly to rails.

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 8:18 AM Jon Craig (Vendraen) 
wrote:

> Eh, I don't think the loops on the Acorn Large Saddlebag will reach my
> rails. :(
>
> I have the old, 2016-era Rivendell stock saddle with the weird ovular loop
> on the back; it's not wide enough to use as loops for this bag (or maybe
> any bag) and it also blocks things.
>
>
> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 10:04:57 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> FWIW: Alternatives to integrated loops that don't require big bolt-on
>> carriers: neither work as well as loops but might be preferable to
>> jettisoning an otherwise favorite saddle. I prefer #2 to losing my beloved
>> original issue Flites and even prefer it to #1.
>>
>> #1 VO bolt-on loops are still available:
>> https://velo-orange.com/products/velo-orange-saddle-loops
>>
>> #2 You can simply strap your bag to the saddle rails; I've done this with
>> my Flites for Sackvilles (both Mediums) and Carradice Juniors, Nelson LFs,
>> and Camper LFs, and carried over 30 lb in the larger bags with no problems,
>> unless a bit of thigh-rub is a problem (it doesn't bother me). I wrap the
>> straps around the rails from the outside of the rails: from inside of bag,
>> around outside of rails, back to inside of bag.
>>
>>
>>> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 3:53:33 AM UTC-8 modemm...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Looking for a cheap saddle with proper bag loops - the new Rivendell
 one or perhaps one of the V-O ones that have loops.  Hopefully someone's
 got a saddle they don't use or didn't work for their body that they'll let
 go cheapish!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB new Rivendell saddle or other saddle with proper bag loops

[Jon Craig (Vendraen)]

Eh, I don't think the loops on the Acorn Large Saddlebag will reach my 
rails. :(

I have the old, 2016-era Rivendell stock saddle with the weird ovular loop 
on the back; it's not wide enough to use as loops for this bag (or maybe 
any bag) and it also blocks things.


On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 10:04:57 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> FWIW: Alternatives to integrated loops that don't require big bolt-on 
> carriers: neither work as well as loops but might be preferable to 
> jettisoning an otherwise favorite saddle. I prefer #2 to losing my beloved 
> original issue Flites and even prefer it to #1. 
>
> #1 VO bolt-on loops are still available: 
> https://velo-orange.com/products/velo-orange-saddle-loops
>
> #2 You can simply strap your bag to the saddle rails; I've done this with 
> my Flites for Sackvilles (both Mediums) and Carradice Juniors, Nelson LFs, 
> and Camper LFs, and carried over 30 lb in the larger bags with no problems, 
> unless a bit of thigh-rub is a problem (it doesn't bother me). I wrap the 
> straps around the rails from the outside of the rails: from inside of bag, 
> around outside of rails, back to inside of bag.
>
>
>> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 3:53:33 AM UTC-8 modemm...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for a cheap saddle with proper bag loops - the new Rivendell one 
>>> or perhaps one of the V-O ones that have loops.  Hopefully someone's got a 
>>> saddle they don't use or didn't work for their body that they'll let go 
>>> cheapish!
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB new Rivendell saddle or other saddle with proper bag loops

[Patrick Moore]

I position my saddles far back on longish rails -- Flite + Dura Ace 7410
IIRC; perhaps strapping bags to rails of saddles mounted forward might not
work as well; but then again you can always make a stand-off and someone --
forget whom -- made thick and nice looking leather standoffs, but I've used
wood and PVC (only to discover I didn't really need them).

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 8:04 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> FWIW: Alternatives to integrated loops that don't require big bolt-on
> carriers ... unless a bit of thigh-rub is a problem (it doesn't bother me)
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB new Rivendell saddle or other saddle with proper bag loops

[Patrick Moore]

FWIW: Alternatives to integrated loops that don't require big bolt-on
carriers: neither work as well as loops but might be preferable to
jettisoning an otherwise favorite saddle. I prefer #2 to losing my beloved
original issue Flites and even prefer it to #1.

#1 VO bolt-on loops are still available:
https://velo-orange.com/products/velo-orange-saddle-loops

#2 You can simply strap your bag to the saddle rails; I've done this with
my Flites for Sackvilles (both Mediums) and Carradice Juniors, Nelson LFs,
and Camper LFs, and carried over 30 lb in the larger bags with no problems,
unless a bit of thigh-rub is a problem (it doesn't bother me). I wrap the
straps around the rails from the outside of the rails: from inside of bag,
around outside of rails, back to inside of bag.


> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 3:53:33 AM UTC-8 modemm...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Looking for a cheap saddle with proper bag loops - the new Rivendell one
>> or perhaps one of the V-O ones that have loops.  Hopefully someone's got a
>> saddle they don't use or didn't work for their body that they'll let go
>> cheapish!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB new Rivendell saddle or other saddle with proper bag loops

[Piaw Na]

The Ritchey Vector Wing saddles have stealth saddlebag loops (because the 
wing doubles as a loop). They're not quite "proper" bag loops, but they 
work just as well. Much lighter than a Brooks, and the white version is 
currently $24, which is MUCH cheaper than a Brooks or 
Rivendell: https://ritcheylogic.com/bike/saddles/rl1-streem-saddle-40020008001

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 3:53:33 AM UTC-8 modemm...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looking for a cheap saddle with proper bag loops - the new Rivendell one 
> or perhaps one of the V-O ones that have loops.  Hopefully someone's got a 
> saddle they don't use or didn't work for their body that they'll let go 
> cheapish!

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