Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Jones LWB

[Patrick Moore]

David: Thanks, and noted about the Bike Insights site.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:25 AM DavidP  wrote:

> Patrick, I have a Jones 29 with dropbars (Ritchey Beacon XL) and love it,
> though things may have changed enough that it may not work as well on a
> current Jones SWB.
>
> My 2013 Jones 29 (back then Jones frames only came in one size) has a
> relatively short ETT and works well with something like an Analog
> Gnomehopper stem to get the dropbars high and close.
>
> Bike Insights does let you compare the geometry of a Jones SWB to
> something like a Surly Ghost Grappler or other dropbar MTB to get an idea
> if it might work for you.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I've thought of a Jones, but have refrained because I'm very attached to
>> my usual drop bar riding position even for off road (the light off-roading
>> I do).
>>
>> I don't suppose you can comfortably install a drop bar on a Jones?
>>
>> And, I expect also that Joneses have widish Q factors (>160 mm)?
>>
>> Questions in the form of suppositions.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 9:16 AM Ryan Frahm  wrote:
>>
>>> I am another vote to pick up a Jones on sale! I prefer the SWB for most
>>> of my riding but the LWB sis awesome in its own way. The SWB has replaced
>>> all of my other bikes. Though I still need to sell a Tanglefoot Hardtack.
>>> Drop bars just don’t work for me…
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 6:45:01 AM UTC-8 Mojo wrote:
>>>
 I have a Jones LWB in my quiver of seven bikes and it gets ridden the
 most. I can imagine selling other bikes, but not the Jones. The long stable
 wheelbase, lowish BB, short-upright cockpit, fast steering (for offroad, 75
 mm trail), room for 3+" tires, all combine to make a unique and fun bike. I
 recommend the sale.

 Joe, riding the Jones this morning before the atmospheric river
 arrives, in GJT

 On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 6:27:38 AM UTC-7 Joe D. wrote:

> Good morning!
>
> I know there are lots of Jones Bikes aficionados amongst the Riv
> crowd, so I figured this post is worth a try. I'm in the market for a 
> Jones
> Plus LWB (now just called the LWB). And although the Jones Complete LWB
> bikes are now a very reasonable price new, I thought I'd see if there are
> any used possibilities out there.
>
> I'm open to an earlier version of the Complete bike (they're up to
> version 3 now). Also open to a Custom Select frame (the one with the truss
> fork and eccentric bottom bracket) that you've built up, or just the
> frame/fork itself.
>
> Ideally local to western/central Montana, but I know that's unlikely
> so we'd have to work out shipping.
>
> Thanks!
> Joe
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Jones LWB

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks; I gathered that low Q is not a Jones design feature.

I did talk to him but never got the requested follow up information.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 10:32 AM 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> With a Surly Offset Double crank, my Q factor is 175mm.
> If you want to discuss ideas about the Jones, give Jeff a call. Set aside
> plenty of time. tel:541-535-2034
>
> Joe
>
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 9:55:54 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I've thought of a Jones, but have refrained because I'm very attached to
>> my usual drop bar riding position even for off road (the light off-roading
>> I do).
>>
>> I don't suppose you can comfortably install a drop bar on a Jones?
>>
>> And, I expect also that Joneses have widish Q factors (>160 mm)?
>>
>> Questions in the form of suppositions.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 9:16 AM Ryan Frahm  wrote:
>>
>>> I am another vote to pick up a Jones on sale! I prefer the SWB for most
>>> of my riding but the LWB sis awesome in its own way. The SWB has replaced
>>> all of my other bikes. Though I still need to sell a Tanglefoot Hardtack.
>>> Drop bars just don’t work for me…
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 6:45:01 AM UTC-8 Mojo wrote:
>>>
 I have a Jones LWB in my quiver of seven bikes and it gets ridden the
 most. I can imagine selling other bikes, but not the Jones. The long stable
 wheelbase, lowish BB, short-upright cockpit, fast steering (for offroad, 75
 mm trail), room for 3+" tires, all combine to make a unique and fun bike. I
 recommend the sale.

 Joe, riding the Jones this morning before the atmospheric river
 arrives, in GJT

 On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 6:27:38 AM UTC-7 Joe D. wrote:

> Good morning!
>
> I know there are lots of Jones Bikes aficionados amongst the Riv
> crowd, so I figured this post is worth a try. I'm in the market for a 
> Jones
> Plus LWB (now just called the LWB). And although the Jones Complete LWB
> bikes are now a very reasonable price new, I thought I'd see if there are
> any used possibilities out there.
>
> I'm open to an earlier version of the Complete bike (they're up to
> version 3 now). Also open to a Custom Select frame (the one with the truss
> fork and eccentric bottom bracket) that you've built up, or just the
> frame/fork itself.
>
> Ideally local to western/central Montana, but I know that's unlikely
> so we'd have to work out shipping.
>
> Thanks!
> Joe
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Jones LWB

[Joe D.]

Look at the tires on that trailer!



On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 11:00:09 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Eric! The LBW is a tough one for me. I bought the complete and it was an 
absolute beast. I love the handling on the SWB for around town and it feels 
like it rides much lighter and playful even though the weight isn’t much 
different. Pointing the LWB down a rocky trail with a full camp load is a 
joy and where the bike shines. I dream of a Ti LWB if I could afford one 
honestly. I think the SWB makes a better commuter and all around bike 
though. I don’t hesitate to recommend either as long as speed is not a 
priority. 
The sale price on the v2 SWB is such a great deal in my opinion!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Jones LWB

[Eric Daume]

Hey Ryan,

At the risk of getting dangerously OT for the RBW list, I'd like to hear
your thoughts on the SWB vs LWB. I've owned two LWBs, but I'm currently
Jones-less.

I enjoyed the LWB, but for my type of riding (either local road riding, or
throw the bike in the car and drive to a mountain bike trail), the mixed
mode capability of the LWB was kind of wasted on me.

Eric

On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:16 AM Ryan Frahm  wrote:

> I am another vote to pick up a Jones on sale! I prefer the SWB for most of
> my riding but the LWB sis awesome in its own way. The SWB has replaced all
> of my other bikes. Though I still need to sell a Tanglefoot Hardtack. Drop
> bars just don’t work for me…
>
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 6:45:01 AM UTC-8 Mojo wrote:
>
>> I have a Jones LWB in my quiver of seven bikes and it gets ridden the
>> most. I can imagine selling other bikes, but not the Jones. The long stable
>> wheelbase, lowish BB, short-upright cockpit, fast steering (for offroad, 75
>> mm trail), room for 3+" tires, all combine to make a unique and fun bike. I
>> recommend the sale.
>>
>> Joe, riding the Jones this morning before the atmospheric river arrives,
>> in GJT
>>
>> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 6:27:38 AM UTC-7 Joe D. wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning!
>>>
>>> I know there are lots of Jones Bikes aficionados amongst the Riv crowd,
>>> so I figured this post is worth a try. I'm in the market for a Jones Plus
>>> LWB (now just called the LWB). And although the Jones Complete LWB bikes
>>> are now a very reasonable price new, I thought I'd see if there are any
>>> used possibilities out there.
>>>
>>> I'm open to an earlier version of the Complete bike (they're up to
>>> version 3 now). Also open to a Custom Select frame (the one with the truss
>>> fork and eccentric bottom bracket) that you've built up, or just the
>>> frame/fork itself.
>>>
>>> Ideally local to western/central Montana, but I know that's unlikely so
>>> we'd have to work out shipping.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Joe
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Jones LWB

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Patrick,

With a Surly Offset Double crank, my Q factor is 175mm.
If you want to discuss ideas about the Jones, give Jeff a call. Set aside 
plenty of time. tel:541-535-2034

Joe

On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 9:55:54 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I've thought of a Jones, but have refrained because I'm very attached to 
> my usual drop bar riding position even for off road (the light off-roading 
> I do). 
>
> I don't suppose you can comfortably install a drop bar on a Jones?
>
> And, I expect also that Joneses have widish Q factors (>160 mm)?
>
> Questions in the form of suppositions.
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 9:16 AM Ryan Frahm  wrote:
>
>> I am another vote to pick up a Jones on sale! I prefer the SWB for most 
>> of my riding but the LWB sis awesome in its own way. The SWB has replaced 
>> all of my other bikes. Though I still need to sell a Tanglefoot Hardtack. 
>> Drop bars just don’t work for me…
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 6:45:01 AM UTC-8 Mojo wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Jones LWB in my quiver of seven bikes and it gets ridden the 
>>> most. I can imagine selling other bikes, but not the Jones. The long stable 
>>> wheelbase, lowish BB, short-upright cockpit, fast steering (for offroad, 75 
>>> mm trail), room for 3+" tires, all combine to make a unique and fun bike. I 
>>> recommend the sale.
>>>
>>> Joe, riding the Jones this morning before the atmospheric river arrives, 
>>> in GJT
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 6:27:38 AM UTC-7 Joe D. wrote:
>>>
 Good morning!

 I know there are lots of Jones Bikes aficionados amongst the Riv crowd, 
 so I figured this post is worth a try. I'm in the market for a Jones Plus 
 LWB (now just called the LWB). And although the Jones Complete LWB bikes 
 are now a very reasonable price new, I thought I'd see if there are any 
 used possibilities out there.

 I'm open to an earlier version of the Complete bike (they're up to 
 version 3 now). Also open to a Custom Select frame (the one with the truss 
 fork and eccentric bottom bracket) that you've built up, or just the 
 frame/fork itself.

 Ideally local to western/central Montana, but I know that's unlikely so 
 we'd have to work out shipping.

 Thanks!
 Joe

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Jones LWB

[Patrick Moore]

I've thought of a Jones, but have refrained because I'm very attached to my
usual drop bar riding position even for off road (the light off-roading I
do).

I don't suppose you can comfortably install a drop bar on a Jones?

And, I expect also that Joneses have widish Q factors (>160 mm)?

Questions in the form of suppositions.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 9:16 AM Ryan Frahm  wrote:

> I am another vote to pick up a Jones on sale! I prefer the SWB for most of
> my riding but the LWB sis awesome in its own way. The SWB has replaced all
> of my other bikes. Though I still need to sell a Tanglefoot Hardtack. Drop
> bars just don’t work for me…
>
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 6:45:01 AM UTC-8 Mojo wrote:
>
>> I have a Jones LWB in my quiver of seven bikes and it gets ridden the
>> most. I can imagine selling other bikes, but not the Jones. The long stable
>> wheelbase, lowish BB, short-upright cockpit, fast steering (for offroad, 75
>> mm trail), room for 3+" tires, all combine to make a unique and fun bike. I
>> recommend the sale.
>>
>> Joe, riding the Jones this morning before the atmospheric river arrives,
>> in GJT
>>
>> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 6:27:38 AM UTC-7 Joe D. wrote:
>>
>>> Good morning!
>>>
>>> I know there are lots of Jones Bikes aficionados amongst the Riv crowd,
>>> so I figured this post is worth a try. I'm in the market for a Jones Plus
>>> LWB (now just called the LWB). And although the Jones Complete LWB bikes
>>> are now a very reasonable price new, I thought I'd see if there are any
>>> used possibilities out there.
>>>
>>> I'm open to an earlier version of the Complete bike (they're up to
>>> version 3 now). Also open to a Custom Select frame (the one with the truss
>>> fork and eccentric bottom bracket) that you've built up, or just the
>>> frame/fork itself.
>>>
>>> Ideally local to western/central Montana, but I know that's unlikely so
>>> we'd have to work out shipping.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Joe
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Jones LWB

[Ryan Frahm]

I am another vote to pick up a Jones on sale! I prefer the SWB for most of 
my riding but the LWB sis awesome in its own way. The SWB has replaced all 
of my other bikes. Though I still need to sell a Tanglefoot Hardtack. Drop 
bars just don’t work for me…

On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 6:45:01 AM UTC-8 Mojo wrote:

> I have a Jones LWB in my quiver of seven bikes and it gets ridden the 
> most. I can imagine selling other bikes, but not the Jones. The long stable 
> wheelbase, lowish BB, short-upright cockpit, fast steering (for offroad, 75 
> mm trail), room for 3+" tires, all combine to make a unique and fun bike. I 
> recommend the sale.
>
> Joe, riding the Jones this morning before the atmospheric river arrives, 
> in GJT
>
> On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 6:27:38 AM UTC-7 Joe D. wrote:
>
>> Good morning!
>>
>> I know there are lots of Jones Bikes aficionados amongst the Riv crowd, 
>> so I figured this post is worth a try. I'm in the market for a Jones Plus 
>> LWB (now just called the LWB). And although the Jones Complete LWB bikes 
>> are now a very reasonable price new, I thought I'd see if there are any 
>> used possibilities out there.
>>
>> I'm open to an earlier version of the Complete bike (they're up to 
>> version 3 now). Also open to a Custom Select frame (the one with the truss 
>> fork and eccentric bottom bracket) that you've built up, or just the 
>> frame/fork itself.
>>
>> Ideally local to western/central Montana, but I know that's unlikely so 
>> we'd have to work out shipping.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Joe
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Jones LWB

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have a Jones LWB in my quiver of seven bikes and it gets ridden the most. 
I can imagine selling other bikes, but not the Jones. The long stable 
wheelbase, lowish BB, short-upright cockpit, fast steering (for offroad, 75 
mm trail), room for 3+" tires, all combine to make a unique and fun bike. I 
recommend the sale.

Joe, riding the Jones this morning before the atmospheric river arrives, in 
GJT

On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 6:27:38 AM UTC-7 Joe D. wrote:

> Good morning!
>
> I know there are lots of Jones Bikes aficionados amongst the Riv crowd, so 
> I figured this post is worth a try. I'm in the market for a Jones Plus LWB 
> (now just called the LWB). And although the Jones Complete LWB bikes are 
> now a very reasonable price new, I thought I'd see if there are any used 
> possibilities out there.
>
> I'm open to an earlier version of the Complete bike (they're up to version 
> 3 now). Also open to a Custom Select frame (the one with the truss fork and 
> eccentric bottom bracket) that you've built up, or just the frame/fork 
> itself.
>
> Ideally local to western/central Montana, but I know that's unlikely so 
> we'd have to work out shipping.
>
> Thanks!
> Joe
>

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