[RBW] Re: Why is Quickbeam a complete bike only?

2009-11-08 Thread John Blish
Right you are.  I have not followed the actual and projected release dates
of the newer Rivendells.  I had the Taiwanese version in mind when I
mentioned that the newer ones are not made by Panasonic, but I see that the
QuickBeam currently listed on the RBW web site is from Panasonic.  My error.


-jb

On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Rocky B wrote:

>
> All Quickbeams including the the silver ones are from Panasonic...
>
>
> > It was an experiment that worked well.  Now they have brought it back and
> > one difference is the newer QuickBeams are not from Panasonic.
>
>
> >
>


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[RBW] Re: Why is Quickbeam a complete bike only?

2009-11-08 Thread Larry Powers

I believe that the next batch of single speeds will not be Quickbeams but will 
be built in Taiwan and renamed.  

Larry Powers 

 

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> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:25:50 -0800
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Why is Quickbeam a complete bike only?
> From: luggedsteel.fatti...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
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> 
> All Quickbeams including the the silver ones are from Panasonic...
> 
> 
> > It was an experiment that worked well.  Now they have brought it back and
> > one difference is the newer QuickBeams are not from Panasonic.
> 
> 
> > 
  
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[RBW] Re: Why is Quickbeam a complete bike only?

2009-11-07 Thread Rocky B

All Quickbeams including the the silver ones are from Panasonic...


> It was an experiment that worked well.  Now they have brought it back and
> one difference is the newer QuickBeams are not from Panasonic.


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[RBW] Re: Why is Quickbeam a complete bike only?

2009-11-07 Thread John Blish
The original (green) QuickBeam was something of a departure for Rivendell.
It was not from Waterford or Toyo or a custom builder or their usual
sources.  It came from Panasonic and it came at what most of us original
buyers considered to be a pretty good price, especially for a
Rivendell-badged complete bike.  I think Grant mentioned at the time that
Panasonic is a much larger bike builder than his other sources and the
completely-hand-made-one-at-a-time (Toyo) element was not as present in the
Panasonic product as it is in a Toyo build.  It was only after riding it for
a while that I realized just what an incredible deal it was - just a great
bike with SS/fixed interchangeability in the same set up by just flipping
the rear wheel and the cleverness of two rings up front.  My only complaint
was the brake pads which I quickly changed out for salmon colored Kool
Stops.

The best way Panasonic and Rivendell could maximize profit and efficiently
move a then-unknown item out the door was to offer a complete package with a
known profit on each unit and hope that all the units would sell.  Not to
worry, they did.  Plus, with Noodle bars, canti brakes, the flip-flop hub
and Grant's clever slanted rear drop-outs (to accommodate proper rear
brake/rim alignment no matter where in the drop-out the rear wheel is
placed) what might a prospective buyer want that was not already part of a
highly specific bike/package?  The only thing I could think of might be the
White Industries dual-cog freewheel (17/19) set up.  No reason to add that
to the original - let the buyer decide and get it wherever they wish.
Pedals and saddle were an option that RBW could fill for you as always.

It was an experiment that worked well.  Now they have brought it back and
one difference is the newer QuickBeams are not from Panasonic.

http://g7.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-QuickBeam-a-single/5313029_aT43h#328419525_cbyrs-X3-LB

Cheers,

-jb





On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Mojo  wrote:

>
> They used to be offered as complete bikes,or frame only (I am from the
> school that the fork IS the frame). I ordered my green as frame only.
> I suppose their are just a few Qs available right now and they are
> built up.
>
> On Nov 7, 8:16 am, stevep33  wrote:
> > Just curious, does anyone know why you can't buy just the Quickbeam
> > frame and fork?  All other models are available as a frame and fork,
> > but the Quickbeam is sold complete.
> >
> > btw, is anyone looking to sell a 56 Quickbeam?
> >
>


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[RBW] Re: Why is Quickbeam a complete bike only?

2009-11-07 Thread newenglandbike

Not to change the subject, but does anyone know if Rivendell is
planning to re-stock those Quickbeam-specific hubs from Suzue, maybe
for their new incarnation of the QB?*   I (hopefully) should have some
QB wheels soon, but I was just wondering.




On Nov 7, 1:05 pm, rcnute  wrote:
> Maybe because the rear hub and chainring/chainguard arrangement are QB-
> specific?
>
> I wish I'd gotten a silver 56 when they were available.
>
> On Nov 7, 7:16 am, stevep33  wrote:
>
> > Just curious, does anyone know why you can't buy just the Quickbeam
> > frame and fork?  All other models are available as a frame and fork,
> > but the Quickbeam is sold complete.
>
> > btw, is anyone looking to sell a 56 Quickbeam?
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[RBW] Re: Why is Quickbeam a complete bike only?

2009-11-07 Thread rcnute

Maybe because the rear hub and chainring/chainguard arrangement are QB-
specific?

I wish I'd gotten a silver 56 when they were available.

On Nov 7, 7:16 am, stevep33  wrote:
> Just curious, does anyone know why you can't buy just the Quickbeam
> frame and fork?  All other models are available as a frame and fork,
> but the Quickbeam is sold complete.
>
> btw, is anyone looking to sell a 56 Quickbeam?
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[RBW] Re: Why is Quickbeam a complete bike only?

2009-11-07 Thread Mojo

They used to be offered as complete bikes,or frame only (I am from the
school that the fork IS the frame). I ordered my green as frame only.
I suppose their are just a few Qs available right now and they are
built up.

On Nov 7, 8:16 am, stevep33  wrote:
> Just curious, does anyone know why you can't buy just the Quickbeam
> frame and fork?  All other models are available as a frame and fork,
> but the Quickbeam is sold complete.
>
> btw, is anyone looking to sell a 56 Quickbeam?
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