Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-12 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Rode today at 36F. Thick wool socks inside light leather keens. Feet were
fine. It rarely gets below 20F here. Below 30, I add booties over the
shoes. Wooly warm tights are excellent, and they won't roast you if temps
rise during the ride. Best way to get warm fast is climb a hill, of course.

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Liesl  wrote:

> On Nov 11, 3:09 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
> > ...and what's everybody doing to get some heat in their legs?  I find
> > this, even with some embro, to be a real problem below 40 deg.
>
> in 10 to 35 degrees, I consistently wear medium weight wool long johns
> (like others, Smartwool, Ibex, Icebreaker whatever), wool boxer briefs
> (yes, the boys' work just fine, ladies; just bump up a size as the
> butts are too small), thermohair sox, and then a pair of longish
> baggie cargo shorts, and Steger Mukluks.  This combo really helps
> regulate--warm enough but not over-heating.  I think feet are really
> key and can't recommend stagers enough (and no, I don't work for them;
> just use 'em)
>
> liesl
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[RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-12 Thread Liesl
On Nov 11, 3:09 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
> ...and what's everybody doing to get some heat in their legs?  I find
> this, even with some embro, to be a real problem below 40 deg.

in 10 to 35 degrees, I consistently wear medium weight wool long johns
(like others, Smartwool, Ibex, Icebreaker whatever), wool boxer briefs
(yes, the boys' work just fine, ladies; just bump up a size as the
butts are too small), thermohair sox, and then a pair of longish
baggie cargo shorts, and Steger Mukluks.  This combo really helps
regulate--warm enough but not over-heating.  I think feet are really
key and can't recommend stagers enough (and no, I don't work for them;
just use 'em)

liesl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-12 Thread newenglandbike
Wool longjohns for the legs, works pretty good.   It's kind of like 
dressing for some cross country skiing-  you don't don't need super heavy 
insulation, except maybe on extremities  (hands, feet, etc).

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Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-11 Thread robert zeidler
...and what's everybody doing to get some heat in their legs?  I find
this, even with some embro, to be a real problem below 40 deg.

RGZ

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Montclair BobbyB
 wrote:
> My "go-to" clothing in the Winter - Mix n match variety of wool and
> man-made layers:
>
> UnderArmour (heavy or thin, short sleeve or long, mock or
> turtleneck...depending on mercury)
> Smartwool socks (again, of varying thicknesses)
> Mountain HardWear Windstopper fleece jacket (WITH pit zips... a must
> in varying temps)
> Endura biker jacket (waterproof, breathable, zillions of pockets)
> perfect for cold and mucky days
> Comfy trousers, maybe with lycra tights safely hidden beneath
> Ecco Country Walker shoes (or Danner insulated work boots for really
> cold weather)
> Wool cycling cap (when helmetless) or Mountain HardWear Windstopper
> fleece hat
> UnderArmour skull caps (various thicknesses) for under-helmet
> Gloves... from thin XC ski gloves to huge ski gauntlets
>
> Extreme cold/snow... Anything goes... full balaclava, ski goggs,
> Sorels, insulated ski pants.  Hey, ...whatever it takes, just to be
> out there.
>
>
> On Nov 9, 9:05 pm, EricP  wrote:
>> All good choices so far.
>>
>> I'll add - Bemidji Woolen Mills heavy wool shirt.  Although a Filson
>> wool works well, too.
>> Red Wing boots.  Can't remember the model, but list member Tim clued
>> me in on these last year.  The best I've used.
>>
>> Riv wool usually under everything with MUSA pants and REI wind pants
>> on top.  Sometimes the Rivendell rain pants.  Unfortunately, I
>> purchased those in too small a size (M instead of L).  They fit, but
>> not optimal.
>>
>> Socks - Thermohair.  Although my wife is knitting me a pair.  When it
>> gets cold, a pair of Sealskinz on top.
>>
>> Will also be using the new Woolywarm sweaters more.  Have the Sargant
>> and Buttonup with a Rollynecker on the way (embiggened for more
>> layering room).
>>
>> And often a balaclava or Craft skull cap under helmet.
>>
>> Eric Platt
>> St. Paul, MN
>> (who is hoping this winter is nowhere near as bad as the last)
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2:45 pm, Garth  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > I wear all man made fibers myself, as I find even merino wools to be itchy.
>>
>> > Craft Pro Zero base layers are fantastic below 60. The seamless rubbed
>> > design fits like a glove without lycra. The best I've used by far.
>> > Defeet Un D shurts above 60.
>> > If I wear I jersey, it's a Pearl Izumi Kodiak.
>>
>> > Various jackets and vests  from Pearl Izumi to Mountain Hardwear,
>> > Outdoor Research and Cloudveil. Soft shells offer the best balance of
>> > breathability and wind blocking.
>> > Rei boxers.
>> > Marmot Scree soft shell pants.
>> > Shoes  Birkentock Boston or Columbia water shoes . Plastic bags under
>> > Thorlo socks if really cold.
>> > Outdoor Research Primaloft gloves, and/or Marmot Expedition Mittens.
>> > Various balaclavas of varying thickness with a windstopper neck gaiter from
>> > Easter Mountain Sports. No better neck gaiter!
>> > Lowe Alpine Mountain caps are fantastic for the cold!- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-11 Thread Ian Dickson
For context, I live in Fairbanks, Alaska. We've already had temperatures 
down to -10 this year, and I'll ride down to -20 or -30. 

Pants and tops are the easy part. Down to zero or a bit lower, I'm 
comfortable in a Sport Hill jacket and a single, medium-weight long-sleeved 
merino wool shirt. It's cold at first, but you warm up fast. When it's very 
cold, I'll add a heavier layer of wool or fleece over the base layer. For 
pants, I wear wool tights (Ibex, Icebreaker, the stuff Riv sells--doesn't 
matter) under Sport Hill expedition pants. Two layers of tights when it's 
colder. When it gets below -20, you need some windstopping material for 
your nether regions. Really, really need it.

My head is a problem. It's hard to get adequate coverage without blocking 
my breath and getting all damp and foggy. I have about six different head 
and/or neck garments that I fiddle with depending on temperature. For 
boots, I wear some nice Salomons down to -10 or so, then I switch to big, 
heavy Baffin boots. Nominally for -60, I think. I prefer to use warm boots 
with a single layer of socks rather than layering socks.

Nothing special for the hands. Thick gloves down to zero, then switch to 
mittens. Of course the thumb is the problem. If I'm going for a longer ride 
in extreme cold, I'll resort to using chemical handwarmers.

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[RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-11 Thread Montclair BobbyB
My "go-to" clothing in the Winter - Mix n match variety of wool and
man-made layers:

UnderArmour (heavy or thin, short sleeve or long, mock or
turtleneck...depending on mercury)
Smartwool socks (again, of varying thicknesses)
Mountain HardWear Windstopper fleece jacket (WITH pit zips... a must
in varying temps)
Endura biker jacket (waterproof, breathable, zillions of pockets)
perfect for cold and mucky days
Comfy trousers, maybe with lycra tights safely hidden beneath
Ecco Country Walker shoes (or Danner insulated work boots for really
cold weather)
Wool cycling cap (when helmetless) or Mountain HardWear Windstopper
fleece hat
UnderArmour skull caps (various thicknesses) for under-helmet
Gloves... from thin XC ski gloves to huge ski gauntlets

Extreme cold/snow... Anything goes... full balaclava, ski goggs,
Sorels, insulated ski pants.  Hey, ...whatever it takes, just to be
out there.


On Nov 9, 9:05 pm, EricP  wrote:
> All good choices so far.
>
> I'll add - Bemidji Woolen Mills heavy wool shirt.  Although a Filson
> wool works well, too.
> Red Wing boots.  Can't remember the model, but list member Tim clued
> me in on these last year.  The best I've used.
>
> Riv wool usually under everything with MUSA pants and REI wind pants
> on top.  Sometimes the Rivendell rain pants.  Unfortunately, I
> purchased those in too small a size (M instead of L).  They fit, but
> not optimal.
>
> Socks - Thermohair.  Although my wife is knitting me a pair.  When it
> gets cold, a pair of Sealskinz on top.
>
> Will also be using the new Woolywarm sweaters more.  Have the Sargant
> and Buttonup with a Rollynecker on the way (embiggened for more
> layering room).
>
> And often a balaclava or Craft skull cap under helmet.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
> (who is hoping this winter is nowhere near as bad as the last)
>
> On Nov 9, 2:45 pm, Garth  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I wear all man made fibers myself, as I find even merino wools to be itchy.
>
> > Craft Pro Zero base layers are fantastic below 60. The seamless rubbed
> > design fits like a glove without lycra. The best I've used by far.
> > Defeet Un D shurts above 60.
> > If I wear I jersey, it's a Pearl Izumi Kodiak.
>
> > Various jackets and vests  from Pearl Izumi to Mountain Hardwear,
> > Outdoor Research and Cloudveil. Soft shells offer the best balance of
> > breathability and wind blocking.
> > Rei boxers.
> > Marmot Scree soft shell pants.
> > Shoes  Birkentock Boston or Columbia water shoes . Plastic bags under
> > Thorlo socks if really cold.
> > Outdoor Research Primaloft gloves, and/or Marmot Expedition Mittens.
> > Various balaclavas of varying thickness with a windstopper neck gaiter from
> > Easter Mountain Sports. No better neck gaiter!
> > Lowe Alpine Mountain caps are fantastic for the cold!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-09 Thread EricP
All good choices so far.

I'll add - Bemidji Woolen Mills heavy wool shirt.  Although a Filson
wool works well, too.
Red Wing boots.  Can't remember the model, but list member Tim clued
me in on these last year.  The best I've used.

Riv wool usually under everything with MUSA pants and REI wind pants
on top.  Sometimes the Rivendell rain pants.  Unfortunately, I
purchased those in too small a size (M instead of L).  They fit, but
not optimal.

Socks - Thermohair.  Although my wife is knitting me a pair.  When it
gets cold, a pair of Sealskinz on top.

Will also be using the new Woolywarm sweaters more.  Have the Sargant
and Buttonup with a Rollynecker on the way (embiggened for more
layering room).

And often a balaclava or Craft skull cap under helmet.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
(who is hoping this winter is nowhere near as bad as the last)

On Nov 9, 2:45 pm, Garth  wrote:
> I wear all man made fibers myself, as I find even merino wools to be itchy.
>
> Craft Pro Zero base layers are fantastic below 60. The seamless rubbed
> design fits like a glove without lycra. The best I've used by far.
> Defeet Un D shurts above 60.
> If I wear I jersey, it's a Pearl Izumi Kodiak.
>
> Various jackets and vests  from Pearl Izumi to Mountain Hardwear,
> Outdoor Research and Cloudveil. Soft shells offer the best balance of
> breathability and wind blocking.
> Rei boxers.
> Marmot Scree soft shell pants.
> Shoes  Birkentock Boston or Columbia water shoes . Plastic bags under
> Thorlo socks if really cold.
> Outdoor Research Primaloft gloves, and/or Marmot Expedition Mittens.
> Various balaclavas of varying thickness with a windstopper neck gaiter from
> Easter Mountain Sports. No better neck gaiter!
> Lowe Alpine Mountain caps are fantastic for the cold!

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[RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-09 Thread Garth
I wear all man made fibers myself, as I find even merino wools to be itchy.

Craft Pro Zero base layers are fantastic below 60. The seamless rubbed 
design fits like a glove without lycra. The best I've used by far.
Defeet Un D shurts above 60.  
If I wear I jersey, it's a Pearl Izumi Kodiak.

Various jackets and vests  from Pearl Izumi to Mountain Hardwear, 
Outdoor Research and Cloudveil. Soft shells offer the best balance of 
breathability and wind blocking. 
Rei boxers.
Marmot Scree soft shell pants. 
Shoes  Birkentock Boston or Columbia water shoes . Plastic bags under 
Thorlo socks if really cold. 
Outdoor Research Primaloft gloves, and/or Marmot Expedition Mittens.
Various balaclavas of varying thickness with a windstopper neck gaiter from 
Easter Mountain Sports. No better neck gaiter! 
Lowe Alpine Mountain caps are fantastic for the cold! 

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[RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-09 Thread Liesl
> 1-Can't beat the chopper and wool mitt combo. Fingers stay toasty. Nothing
> comes close when temps reach below 32. Still havn't figured out a version
> for my toes.

Dude!  If you want foot choppers, check out Steger Mukluks!  The
Traditionals are what I've worn for the past 8 years.  Chestnut
colored moose hide lowers, rubberized bottoms, black canvas tops, wool
felt liners.  They are like wearing toasty warm soft bedroom slippers
– and they look great.  These were designed by polar explorer Will
Steger for his expeditions to the North and South Pole, so rest
assured they are warm.  The only thing they don't do well is massive
slush.  Get some Grip Kings or similar, and you're good to go!

http://www.mukluks.com/

yours,
liesl in minneapolis

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[RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-09 Thread hobie
1-Can't beat the chopper and wool mitt combo. Fingers stay toasty. Nothing 
comes close when temps reach below 32. Still havn't figured out a version 
for my toes.
2- Ibex coppi and when it's real cold a wool Balaclaver
3- Kukarick wool tights under Kuk wool shorts or when temps get a bit 
higher substitute w. leg and arm warmers by kuk
4- Ibex wool short sleeve shirt, Protogs vintage wool jersey,Smartwool 
trainer, Pearl Izumi windbreaker.
5- Vintage Specialized shoes. I use metal toe clips w. leather trim and 
might swap them out for plastic TC for winter riding. 

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[RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-09 Thread newenglandbike
Hmm I dunno.   It's a slippery slope til one day you wake up wearing a 
Schwalbe 'Marathon Winter' codpiece (we've all been there!).   


-Matt

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[RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-09 Thread William
I don't know, Matt.  Cut up a studded tire and it make a kind of edgy, 
almost steampunk gauntlet:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/46921561/pair-spiked-leather-gauntlet-bracer?ref=sr_list_12&ga_search_submit=&ga_search_query=steampunk+arm+leather&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_ship_to=US&ga_view_type=list&ga_search_type=handmade&ga_facet=handmade

and yours would be vegan.  

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[RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-09 Thread newenglandbike
I wear wool socks, wool mittens, wool watch cap, and when it really gets 
cold (less than 20F) a wool balaclava and ski-goggles.A regular jacket 
does the trick for keeping my body warm, since my core temperature is never 
a problem when I'm either riding or pushing the bike through snow.   Also-  
not clothing obviously-  but studded tires are a central part of my winter 
ensemble.


-Matt

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[RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-08 Thread Beth H
For commutes to/from work, I usually just wear my work clothes (jeans/
shirt/sweatshirt or sweater, regular shoes). If it's dry I'll top it
off with a heavy wool sweater, scarf and wool cap under my helmet.

For light rain I'll choose a lighter weight shirt and sweater and
layer it under a Burley rain jacket and Rainlegs.
For heavier rain I'll sawp in full Burley rain pants and shoe covers
(this year I've been useing RBW Splats and they work well).

If it's really cold I'll add a woo ear band to the cap, or swap in a
heavier wool cap with ear flap. If it's really, really cold I'll add
thin wool tights under my pants, though I always have to take them off
at work because it's too warm.

Gloves are most often ragg wool variety, even in the rain. I usually
carry extra socks and gloves with me so I have a dry pair for the ride
home.

Beth

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[RBW] Re: Winter Cycling Wear!

2011-11-08 Thread Tom M
Patagonia nanopuff vest over wool jersey; when it gets colder nanopuff 
pullover over wool. Novarra cycling pants. Silk glove liners under Riv 
summer crocheted gloves; when it gets colder Endura winter gloves. Light 
wool neck gaiter (doubles as face mask); Little Package wool hat 
w/earflaps. Wool socks year round.
--Tom

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