[RBW] Re: Workstand clamping
Bob, I use the seat grabber myself. Works well and is convenient. Not quite as solid as the seat tube but still a good addition to the tool kit. Best, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Workstand clamping
I've been clamping onto the seat tubes of bikes for a number of years with no bad effects. On my Park consumer stand, I used to put an old cotton sock over each jaw, but now I've glued some soft leather to each of the clamping surfaces. It works well. I also bought an inexpensive seat post to use for clamping on my Riv (seatpost mounted is an old Aero type and cannot clamp), but it's usually more of a PIA to install the clamping post first. YMMV, of course. Steve On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 2:13:17 AM UTC-4, Paul G wrote: > > For those of you with a fistful of seat post exposed on your large level > top tube bikes, what do you clamp your workstand to? > > I've been raising my seat post (marked with tape beforehand) to make room > for the clamp but that is a pain in the neck. Is it safe to clamp onto the > seat tube instead? It seems to me that the seat post inside would reinforce > the seat tube itself. > > The bike in question is a 61cm Roadeo. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Workstand clamping
As with Patrick Moore, the seatpost thing "sounds" great until it doesn't in a host of circumstances. I have mostly always attached clamps on TT's, whether it be a Park shop or consumer stand, or what I have now is also the Feedback stand in which over tightening isn't gonna happen. The frames I have had range from the heavy not butted Stumpy to many various racing frames with Columbus SL/SLX/SP and Reynolds 531C(their thinest set at the time). If you are really worried about the TT , clamp it nearer ther ST where the tubing is thickest, rather than the middle. On the Bombadil I even have 2 parallel TT's to choose from, I always choose the lower as it raises the frame without having to raise the stand. The Feedback stand is not exactly rock solid compared to a Park shop or the original Consumer PRS-1 stand I had. The good thing about the FS stand is that it folds like a tripod and can be tucked away. Oh the ballad of Jedd Clamp-it ! 😀😀😀 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Workstand clamping
The problem with the seatpost only rule is that sometimes there's not enough seatpost showing; as when you have a saddlebag attached, or a SQR clamp, or a tail light mounted there. At least with Rivendell frames, I doubt there is likelihood of damage by clamping seat tube or top tube, unless you are truly foolishly brutal. Well, the Roadeo is thin walled compared to the Ram, isn't it? So perhaps there is more room to worry with the Roadeo. But I happily clamp my customs by the seat tubes. I use a Feedback stand with a clamp that you adjust grossly by shoving against a ratchet, then fine tune by twisting the threaded knob. But even with my old, primitive Park stand with 2 adjustments (thick and thin) and cam'd, spring-loaded lever, I never damaged so much as a decal. On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Paul Brodek wrote: > Seatpost, always. Use a sharpie to make a discrete dot on the rear of the > post, just above the lug/clamp, to make repositioning easier. Or raise the > post a couple mm and make the dot there, so you -just- hide it on > reinsertion. > > It may never happen to you, but the world is full of nice bicycles with > crushed seat/top tubes, and/or trashed decals/finishes, from clamping > directly on the frame. And if you think you'll never do that, how many > other things in life did you think you'd never do, then, one fine day, you > didn't pay attention for a split second, and done did it? > > You can never accidentally damage the frame/finish by over-clamping if you > only clamp the seatpost. Worst case scenario, and, of course, I've done > this, is not torquing the seatpost binder bolt tight enough after raising > the post, and the frame/bike slides off the post. So give the frame a > wiggle after clamping to the post to make sure it is secure. > > Ain't nothing foolproof from a fool like me. > > Paul Brodek > Hillsdale, NJ USA > > On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 3:22 PM, John A. Bennett > wrote: > >> Seat post. Every single time. >> >> My mechanical guru, Mark Abele (of RBW) does it that way. And that's all >> I need to know. >> >> -John at Rivelo >> >> >> On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 11:13:17 PM UTC-7, Paul G wrote: >>> >>> For those of you with a fistful of seat post exposed on your large level >>> top tube bikes, what do you clamp your workstand to? >>> >>> I've been raising my seat post (marked with tape beforehand) to make >>> room for the clamp but that is a pain in the neck. Is it safe to clamp onto >>> the seat tube instead? It seems to me that the seat post inside would >>> reinforce the seat tube itself. >>> >>> The bike in question is a 61cm Roadeo. >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique ** ** *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Workstand clamping
Seatpost, always. Use a sharpie to make a discrete dot on the rear of the post, just above the lug/clamp, to make repositioning easier. Or raise the post a couple mm and make the dot there, so you -just- hide it on reinsertion. It may never happen to you, but the world is full of nice bicycles with crushed seat/top tubes, and/or trashed decals/finishes, from clamping directly on the frame. And if you think you'll never do that, how many other things in life did you think you'd never do, then, one fine day, you didn't pay attention for a split second, and done did it? You can never accidentally damage the frame/finish by over-clamping if you only clamp the seatpost. Worst case scenario, and, of course, I've done this, is not torquing the seatpost binder bolt tight enough after raising the post, and the frame/bike slides off the post. So give the frame a wiggle after clamping to the post to make sure it is secure. Ain't nothing foolproof from a fool like me. Paul Brodek Hillsdale, NJ USA On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 3:22 PM, John A. Bennett wrote: > Seat post. Every single time. > > My mechanical guru, Mark Abele (of RBW) does it that way. And that's all I > need to know. > > -John at Rivelo > > > On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 11:13:17 PM UTC-7, Paul G wrote: >> >> For those of you with a fistful of seat post exposed on your large level >> top tube bikes, what do you clamp your workstand to? >> >> I've been raising my seat post (marked with tape beforehand) to make room >> for the clamp but that is a pain in the neck. Is it safe to clamp onto the >> seat tube instead? It seems to me that the seat post inside would reinforce >> the seat tube itself. >> >> The bike in question is a 61cm Roadeo. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Workstand clamping
I'm a member of the top tube clamping club. On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 1:13:17 AM UTC-5, Paul G wrote: > > For those of you with a fistful of seat post exposed on your large level > top tube bikes, what do you clamp your workstand to? > > I've been raising my seat post (marked with tape beforehand) to make room > for the clamp but that is a pain in the neck. Is it safe to clamp onto the > seat tube instead? It seems to me that the seat post inside would reinforce > the seat tube itself. > > The bike in question is a 61cm Roadeo. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Workstand clamping
I agree with Patrick the Deacon about the floor. I use a stand for installing cables, shifters and whatnot, but big torque jobs like bottom brackets and pedals get the floor. I have no interesting in cranking that hard on a frame or seatpost in an itty-bitty clamp. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Workstand clamping
Seat post. Every single time. My mechanical guru, Mark Abele (of RBW) does it that way. And that's all I need to know. -John at Rivelo On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 11:13:17 PM UTC-7, Paul G wrote: > > For those of you with a fistful of seat post exposed on your large level > top tube bikes, what do you clamp your workstand to? > > I've been raising my seat post (marked with tape beforehand) to make room > for the clamp but that is a pain in the neck. Is it safe to clamp onto the > seat tube instead? It seems to me that the seat post inside would reinforce > the seat tube itself. > > The bike in question is a 61cm Roadeo. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Workstand clamping
Seat tube all the way. Been doing that for 40 years. Finally replaced the rock-hard plasti-dip jaw covers on the Park stand I've had all that time with replacement rubber grips, but have never had an issue either way. Granted I've only ever had steel frame bikes, YMMV with anything exotic. I do try to avoid decals or tubing stickers if they are surface mounted. When you can grab the seat tube half way between the BB and it's easier to flip the frame in the stand, and there is no interference with cables. On Sunday, May 13, 2018 at 2:13:17 AM UTC-4, Paul G wrote: > > For those of you with a fistful of seat post exposed on your large level > top tube bikes, what do you clamp your workstand to? > > I've been raising my seat post (marked with tape beforehand) to make room > for the clamp but that is a pain in the neck. Is it safe to clamp onto the > seat tube instead? It seems to me that the seat post inside would reinforce > the seat tube itself. > > The bike in question is a 61cm Roadeo. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Workstand clamping
I use the Minoura SCA-100 Seatpost Grabber, purchased from Rivendell: https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tools/products/minoura-sca-100-seatpost-grabber I see that they're out of stock right now, though. Bob E Cranford, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
