[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
On Jul 17, 10:55 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. Some nice compasses have built-in clinometers (ex: Suunto MC-2). I don't typically cycle with mine but when I get curious it tags along! -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
Here's a low-tech gizmo to measure the grade of the hill you're climbing: http://www.velimpex.com/inclinometer.htm Debbie and I have these on our Roadeos. Doug Boulder, CO On 7/21/10 1:23 PM, Michael Dakin wrote: On Jul 17, 10:55 am, Williamtapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. Some nice compasses have built-in clinometers (ex: Suunto MC-2). I don't typically cycle with mine but when I get curious it tags along! -Mike -- *** J. Douglas Way, Professor Chemical Engineering Dept., Colorado School of Mines 1500 Illinois Street, Golden, CO 80401-7887 USA Phone: 303-273-3519 Fax: 303-273-3730 Email: d...@mines.edu http://www.mines.edu/Academic/chemeng/faculty/dway *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 16:34 -0400, J. Douglas Way wrote: Here's a low-tech gizmo to measure the grade of the hill you're climbing: http://www.velimpex.com/inclinometer.htm Debbie and I have these on our Roadeos. Another way you can do this is to plot the piece of road you're interested in in ridewithgps.com, then mouse along the elevation diagram. It'll show the elevation and % grade as you mouse along. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
Good gravy if this frame goes for $465 I'm going to squirm On Jul 17, 2:45 am, rb b...@projectblu.com wrote: I DO live on a 15% hill, with some 19% parts; and I DO have a Rohloff hub on a Bob Jackson supertourist...most of the time, like Spinal Tap, I leave it set to 11, as that's the direct drive and set up to be my cruising gear...it IS nice to gear down a bit, but I don't need the big gear drop that the Rohloff offers for just this hill. It IS nice when I'm riding up that hill with 40 lbs of stuff post long ride / yoga / etc. Flip flop hub too big a hassle for 2x a day on a hill. Probably you could get by with a 1 x 8 or so, spaced so that there are 5 close gears and 3 giant bail outs (that's probably what I'll switch the Jackson to, and put the Rohloff on a tandemexcept for winter and etc, in which case the lazy default is, and has been, oh, just leave it on there...it's a GREAT piece of gear, albeit with a steep adjustment curve). http://www.flickr.com/photos/14427...@n04/sets/72157623928749613/ Also - definetly NOT a genius. On Jul 16, 5:08 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh SNAP! That's genius right there. On Jul 16, 2:05 pm, Kenneth Stagg kenneth.st...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:18 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed That's true. What you need if you live on a 15% hill is a Rohloff equipped Quickbeam! :) -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
$515 is still really cheap. But, as a wise man once said: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed On Jul 20, 4:46 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Good gravy if this frame goes for $465 I'm going to squirm On Jul 17, 2:45 am, rb b...@projectblu.com wrote: I DO live on a 15% hill, with some 19% parts; and I DO have a Rohloff hub on a Bob Jackson supertourist...most of the time, like Spinal Tap, I leave it set to 11, as that's the direct drive and set up to be my cruising gear...it IS nice to gear down a bit, but I don't need the big gear drop that the Rohloff offers for just this hill. It IS nice when I'm riding up that hill with 40 lbs of stuff post long ride / yoga / etc. Flip flop hub too big a hassle for 2x a day on a hill. Probably you could get by with a 1 x 8 or so, spaced so that there are 5 close gears and 3 giant bail outs (that's probably what I'll switch the Jackson to, and put the Rohloff on a tandemexcept for winter and etc, in which case the lazy default is, and has been, oh, just leave it on there...it's a GREAT piece of gear, albeit with a steep adjustment curve). http://www.flickr.com/photos/14427...@n04/sets/72157623928749613/ Also - definetly NOT a genius. On Jul 16, 5:08 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh SNAP! That's genius right there. On Jul 16, 2:05 pm, Kenneth Stagg kenneth.st...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:18 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed That's true. What you need if you live on a 15% hill is a Rohloff equipped Quickbeam! :) -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
I knew the grade because I used to live on this thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLSCOyE9s68feature=related On Jul 17, 1:55 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. I would just eyeball it if it weren't right in front of my house. In fact the hill up to my house is the kind that I have generally avoided on bike rides. I've never ridden a bicycle up Moser or Centennial here in the East Bay hills. Since it is right here, what I do is take out my 4 foot level and a ruler. Just measure how high you have to elevate one end to make it level. rise over run. On Jul 16, 5:56 pm, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: I just looked up something that I read in Frank Berto’s book: “With a cyclist’s entire weight on the pedal, the maximum rideable gear in inches is seven times the slope denominator. Thus, a 1-in-10 incline requires a 70-inch gear.” (In other words, on a 10 % slope, with all your weight on the pedal, and a 70-inch gear you would just be stationary. But in reality, if you pulled up on the handlebars, you could make a little progress. ) If I work things out correctly, a 15 % grade would be 1-in-6.67. Using the formula above, this would give a maximum usable gear of 7 X 6.67 = 46.7 gear inches. ( That’s the maximum usable gear, not that it would be a fun ride. ) I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. But I can say, in my experience, riding a single-speed bike will gradually make you a better climber, so that after maybe six months or a year, you can go up hills quicker and easier than you would have done previously in a lower gear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
OK, I bid the max that I could justify in my current wallet-state ($500 shipped) and am not leading. I can let that go. On Jul 16, 2:08 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh SNAP! That's genius right there. On Jul 16, 2:05 pm, Kenneth Stagg kenneth.st...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:18 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed That's true. What you need if you live on a 15% hill is a Rohloff equipped Quickbeam! :) -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
I DO live on a 15% hill, with some 19% parts; and I DO have a Rohloff hub on a Bob Jackson supertourist...most of the time, like Spinal Tap, I leave it set to 11, as that's the direct drive and set up to be my cruising gear...it IS nice to gear down a bit, but I don't need the big gear drop that the Rohloff offers for just this hill. It IS nice when I'm riding up that hill with 40 lbs of stuff post long ride / yoga / etc. Flip flop hub too big a hassle for 2x a day on a hill. Probably you could get by with a 1 x 8 or so, spaced so that there are 5 close gears and 3 giant bail outs (that's probably what I'll switch the Jackson to, and put the Rohloff on a tandemexcept for winter and etc, in which case the lazy default is, and has been, oh, just leave it on there...it's a GREAT piece of gear, albeit with a steep adjustment curve). http://www.flickr.com/photos/14427...@n04/sets/72157623928749613/ Also - definetly NOT a genius. On Jul 16, 5:08 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh SNAP! That's genius right there. On Jul 16, 2:05 pm, Kenneth Stagg kenneth.st...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:18 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed That's true. What you need if you live on a 15% hill is a Rohloff equipped Quickbeam! :) -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
Well, I just measured saddle setback and found it fully a cm or more back than my already far back normal measurement of 3 1/2 (71* sa instead of my others' 73) and I changed that. I'll see what a bit more forward does. And, I adjusted the wheel circumference measurement; not by a huge amount but probably by 3% which will make about half a mph at 16-19 mph cruising speeds. And, probably, the front and rear panniers make a difference in the breezes we always have (they were unladen today). On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: yea... If that was a 58 I'd be all over it. Hill or no hill. Patrick, as another Hillborne owner I am having the opposite expereince with mine. It seems really fast for a bike with 38mm tires ( Marathon Racers). I'm very happy with the ride and handling of the bike. ~Mike~ On Jul 16, 7:20 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll vote yes. I saved this from a long slow rusty death years ago and made it my single speed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027...@n00/4800182153/#/photos/4202757... Although I have not used it much since picking up a Rivendell, I am glad I have it. I routinely rode it up a 15% (albeit short .25 mile) hill on my commutes home with a 42/17. Although the hills in and around Denver can get steep in places, it was still great for the majority of my riding. I could roll the flats at 20mph with a good spin, but still get up the hills without too much grunt. Plus, Kenneth nailed it on the Rohloff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
There's always another frame. Wait until the bids are done, you may not feel so bad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
You totally need it. Hope that helps. There are three roads to my house: 1) 18% 2) 14% 3) 13% The bike I road most is my quickbeam (fixed). Actually, some when last week I passed the 25,000 mile mark on the 'beam. Have to celebrate and treat it to a new handlebar wrap... but that harlekin wrap is just too pretty. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: I lived on a 15% grade for a while. Get the singlespeed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
I just looked up something that I read in Frank Berto’s book: “With a cyclist’s entire weight on the pedal, the maximum rideable gear in inches is seven times the slope denominator. Thus, a 1-in-10 incline requires a 70-inch gear.” (In other words, on a 10 % slope, with all your weight on the pedal, and a 70-inch gear you would just be stationary. But in reality, if you pulled up on the handlebars, you could make a little progress. ) If I work things out correctly, a 15 % grade would be 1-in-6.67. Using the formula above, this would give a maximum usable gear of 7 X 6.67 = 46.7 gear inches. ( That’s the maximum usable gear, not that it would be a fun ride. ) I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. But I can say, in my experience, riding a single-speed bike will gradually make you a better climber, so that after maybe six months or a year, you can go up hills quicker and easier than you would have done previously in a lower gear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:56 PM, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: But I can say, in my experience, riding a single-speed bike will gradually make you a better climber, so that after maybe six months or a year, you can go up hills quicker and easier than you would have done previously in a lower gear. I've found this too, to the extent that, trying to twiddle up the same hills in a granny gear on the Sam Hill, my only multispeed bike, I very quickly get winded; odd to discover that. I have to upshift and pedal harder to get my breath back. (Tho' of course there is a measure here; unwarmed up, on a hot day, facing a 1/2 mile long steep hill, it certainly feels nice to have, say, a 52 gear instead of a 67; even when the 31 is too low -- 36X19, 46X19, 36X32.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. I would just eyeball it if it weren't right in front of my house. In fact the hill up to my house is the kind that I have generally avoided on bike rides. I've never ridden a bicycle up Moser or Centennial here in the East Bay hills. Since it is right here, what I do is take out my 4 foot level and a ruler. Just measure how high you have to elevate one end to make it level. rise over run. On Jul 16, 5:56 pm, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: I just looked up something that I read in Frank Berto’s book: “With a cyclist’s entire weight on the pedal, the maximum rideable gear in inches is seven times the slope denominator. Thus, a 1-in-10 incline requires a 70-inch gear.” (In other words, on a 10 % slope, with all your weight on the pedal, and a 70-inch gear you would just be stationary. But in reality, if you pulled up on the handlebars, you could make a little progress. ) If I work things out correctly, a 15 % grade would be 1-in-6.67. Using the formula above, this would give a maximum usable gear of 7 X 6.67 = 46.7 gear inches. ( That’s the maximum usable gear, not that it would be a fun ride. ) I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. But I can say, in my experience, riding a single-speed bike will gradually make you a better climber, so that after maybe six months or a year, you can go up hills quicker and easier than you would have done previously in a lower gear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 10:55 -0700, William wrote: I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. Plot it in ridewithgps.com, then run your mouse pointer over the elevation diagram at the bottom of the screen and observe the numbers indicated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
When I lived at the corner of Fillmore and Oak in San Francisco there was no way to avoid an insane hill - all four sides were bananas. The Haight Wiggle helped some but there was always some uncomfortable grunting at the end of my commute home. On Jul 17, 1:55 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. I would just eyeball it if it weren't right in front of my house. In fact the hill up to my house is the kind that I have generally avoided on bike rides. I've never ridden a bicycle up Moser or Centennial here in the East Bay hills. Since it is right here, what I do is take out my 4 foot level and a ruler. Just measure how high you have to elevate one end to make it level. rise over run. On Jul 16, 5:56 pm, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: I just looked up something that I read in Frank Berto’s book: “With a cyclist’s entire weight on the pedal, the maximum rideable gear in inches is seven times the slope denominator. Thus, a 1-in-10 incline requires a 70-inch gear.” (In other words, on a 10 % slope, with all your weight on the pedal, and a 70-inch gear you would just be stationary. But in reality, if you pulled up on the handlebars, you could make a little progress. ) If I work things out correctly, a 15 % grade would be 1-in-6.67. Using the formula above, this would give a maximum usable gear of 7 X 6.67 = 46.7 gear inches. ( That’s the maximum usable gear, not that it would be a fun ride. ) I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. But I can say, in my experience, riding a single-speed bike will gradually make you a better climber, so that after maybe six months or a year, you can go up hills quicker and easier than you would have done previously in a lower gear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
I lived on a 15% grade for a while. Get the singlespeed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
I suspect that your knees will chant the same mantra if you get a single speed. Of course, if you have a bike carrier on your car, you don't necessarily have to worry about it. Jim Cloud (whose left knee and orthopedist would definitely agree!) On Jul 16, 1:18 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed I keep repeating it to myself. I can't say it's working all that well http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330451742585ssPag... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
Oh SNAP! That's genius right there. On Jul 16, 2:05 pm, Kenneth Stagg kenneth.st...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:18 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed That's true. What you need if you live on a 15% hill is a Rohloff equipped Quickbeam! :) -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
unless your new mexico roads are as smooth as wood floors I can not imagine it is the tires. Mine were fast as usual today, If I ride that route on my 28s I am wasted at the end of the ride and made it home no sooner. Is the problem based on feel or against your computer? Is it the wheel counter typ GPS? Might want to check you wheel diameters if it is the prior. I just run my usual loops against the clock to compare. The Jack Browns have never been the cause of a time loss. Rob On Jul 16, 3:53 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: How long is the hill? If no more than 1/2 mile, you can: Get a smaller flip cog/fw Walk Stand Tho' I must admit that on today's hilly and windy ride on the Sam Hill, I was grateful to be able to shift down (gad! I sunk as low as a 41 gear!!!) on the steepish half mile hills I encountered, what with the temperature in the mid 90s and humidity at a horrible 20%. Speaking of the Sam Hill: Tell me, y'all: the SH feels slow and doggy and sluggish on the flats compared even to the Motobecane grocery bike and, indeed, even to the Monocog. Possible reasons: I've set the wheel size wrong -- I seem to be not quite 10% off on a 1 mile benchmark distance compared to other bikes; or the Jack Brown Greens are dogs; or front in addition to rear panniers are just huge wind catchers (tho' the huge Axioms on the rear of the Motobecane don't seem to have the same effect). The possibility that the dogginess is in *me* is, of course, a priori impossible. Would it feel better if I traded the hugely, grossly, egregiously fat JBs for a more reasonably porcine 28 mm tire? On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:18 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed I keep repeating it to myself. I can't say it's working all that well http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330451742585ssPag... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
Well, I live at the bottom of a 1/4 mile 5 or 6 percent grade and I don't have a single speed. Doesn't mean I don't want one. Of course, then there is the same grade that's a half mile long about a mile away. Sigh. And Patrick. It might just be the day. I was dogging it on my Hillborne on an after work ride tonight. Slower than I'd like. Recently switched from Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 40 to Pasela 35. So far this week, the smaller tires feel zippier. Not today. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 16, 5:53 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: How long is the hill? If no more than 1/2 mile, you can: Get a smaller flip cog/fw Walk Stand Tho' I must admit that on today's hilly and windy ride on the Sam Hill, I was grateful to be able to shift down (gad! I sunk as low as a 41 gear!!!) on the steepish half mile hills I encountered, what with the temperature in the mid 90s and humidity at a horrible 20%. Speaking of the Sam Hill: Tell me, y'all: the SH feels slow and doggy and sluggish on the flats compared even to the Motobecane grocery bike and, indeed, even to the Monocog. Possible reasons: I've set the wheel size wrong -- I seem to be not quite 10% off on a 1 mile benchmark distance compared to other bikes; or the Jack Brown Greens are dogs; or front in addition to rear panniers are just huge wind catchers (tho' the huge Axioms on the rear of the Motobecane don't seem to have the same effect). The possibility that the dogginess is in *me* is, of course, a priori impossible. Would it feel better if I traded the hugely, grossly, egregiously fat JBs for a more reasonably porcine 28 mm tire? On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:18 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed I keep repeating it to myself. I can't say it's working all that well http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330451742585ssPag... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
I'll vote yes. I saved this from a long slow rusty death years ago and made it my single speed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027...@n00/4800182153/#/photos/42027...@n00/4800182153/lightbox/ Although I have not used it much since picking up a Rivendell, I am glad I have it. I routinely rode it up a 15% (albeit short .25 mile) hill on my commutes home with a 42/17. Although the hills in and around Denver can get steep in places, it was still great for the majority of my riding. I could roll the flats at 20mph with a good spin, but still get up the hills without too much grunt. Plus, Kenneth nailed it on the Rohloff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
yea... If that was a 58 I'd be all over it. Hill or no hill. Patrick, as another Hillborne owner I am having the opposite expereince with mine. It seems really fast for a bike with 38mm tires ( Marathon Racers). I'm very happy with the ride and handling of the bike. ~Mike~ On Jul 16, 7:20 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll vote yes. I saved this from a long slow rusty death years ago and made it my single speed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027...@n00/4800182153/#/photos/4202757... Although I have not used it much since picking up a Rivendell, I am glad I have it. I routinely rode it up a 15% (albeit short .25 mile) hill on my commutes home with a 42/17. Although the hills in and around Denver can get steep in places, it was still great for the majority of my riding. I could roll the flats at 20mph with a good spin, but still get up the hills without too much grunt. Plus, Kenneth nailed it on the Rohloff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
