[RBW] Re: final test: help size up a hunq
John Thanks for the additional assessment. I appreciate the convenience of having two sets of brakes on my Saluki drops. But I only miss them on the Boscos during those couple of minutes when I'm tucked and screaming downhilll at 30 plus miles an hour and don't really want to stop! I still toy with the idea of drops on a mountain bike, but there are many things to like about those Bosco bars. Just thinking the other day how much more convenient the thumb shifters are on the Betty Foy's Boscos (I really like the barcons on the Saluki drops, but i have to get my whole arm involved I shifting, while that cheapo suntour bosco/thumb shifter moves with a twitch of the finger) On Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:42:20 AM UTC-5, jphil...@icloud.com wrote: I have a 54cm Hunqapillar w/ albatross bars. I'm 5' 10 and my PBH is 85cm. I've been riding 50mm and 55mm tires everywhere and I couldn't be happier except that I miss having brakes at my fingertips when my hands are forward on the bars. Cheers, John On Monday, September 8, 2014 11:56:44 AM UTC-7, Mobile Bill wrote: Ok, your comments on this site and Jared at Riv have just about talked me into dropping my money on a Hunquapillar rather than trying to resurrect the 650B Bombadil (may it ever RIP). But before I take the plunge, I'm wanting to think this sizing thing out more carefully. *Any of you with a 51 or 54 cm Hunq,* would you care to reveal your PBH, your height, your handlebar style and your comfort/satisfaction with the Hunq for the uses you are putting it to (would you specify briefly what those uses are?) (I used to claim my PBH was 83.5,which is about the mid-tube height of a 54 hunq with largest tires -- but using a hard metal ruler today, and trying again and again, I'm getting a pbh reading that looks more like 84-85. I am very comfortably fitted on a 58 cm Saluki with a thumb more than a fistful of seat tube showing. But this Hunq will be a hoppin' on and off rough jeep trail bike as well as a heavy load paved and gravel touring bike.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: final test: help size up a hunq
I have a 54cm Hunqapillar w/ albatross bars. I'm 5' 10 and my PBH is 85cm. I've been riding 50mm and 55mm tires everywhere and I couldn't be happier except that I miss having brakes at my fingertips when my hands are forward on the bars. Cheers, John On Monday, September 8, 2014 11:56:44 AM UTC-7, Mobile Bill wrote: Ok, your comments on this site and Jared at Riv have just about talked me into dropping my money on a Hunquapillar rather than trying to resurrect the 650B Bombadil (may it ever RIP). But before I take the plunge, I'm wanting to think this sizing thing out more carefully. *Any of you with a 51 or 54 cm Hunq,* would you care to reveal your PBH, your height, your handlebar style and your comfort/satisfaction with the Hunq for the uses you are putting it to (would you specify briefly what those uses are?) (I used to claim my PBH was 83.5,which is about the mid-tube height of a 54 hunq with largest tires -- but using a hard metal ruler today, and trying again and again, I'm getting a pbh reading that looks more like 84-85. I am very comfortably fitted on a 58 cm Saluki with a thumb more than a fistful of seat tube showing. But this Hunq will be a hoppin' on and off rough jeep trail bike as well as a heavy load paved and gravel touring bike.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: final test: help size up a hunq
Thanks for all the comparisons and advice. I am chewing on all of this information now. After seeing the 54 cm set ups, my concerns are certainly allayed. Interesting thread about undersizing may also apply here ... On Monday, September 8, 2014 1:56:44 PM UTC-5, Mobile Bill wrote: Ok, your comments on this site and Jared at Riv have just about talked me into dropping my money on a Hunquapillar rather than trying to resurrect the 650B Bombadil (may it ever RIP). But before I take the plunge, I'm wanting to think this sizing thing out more carefully. *Any of you with a 51 or 54 cm Hunq,* would you care to reveal your PBH, your height, your handlebar style and your comfort/satisfaction with the Hunq for the uses you are putting it to (would you specify briefly what those uses are?) (I used to claim my PBH was 83.5,which is about the mid-tube height of a 54 hunq with largest tires -- but using a hard metal ruler today, and trying again and again, I'm getting a pbh reading that looks more like 84-85. I am very comfortably fitted on a 58 cm Saluki with a thumb more than a fistful of seat tube showing. But this Hunq will be a hoppin' on and off rough jeep trail bike as well as a heavy load paved and gravel touring bike.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: final test: help size up a hunq
yes, Trevor, with that picture you dang well complicated my decision making process again. A beautiful bike. Really. Handsome because the elements all seem so in proportion and tight. Not that I haven't annoyed the RBW folks enough, but I will ask them once more ... I appreciate the descriptions of your experience on the Hunqs. You've begun to allay my fears and I'm almost there. Brian pointed out today that I should have significantly more clearance than I do on the Saluki, which has never given me pause. On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 6:05:12 PM UTC-5, Trevor saxton wrote: Another option could be what i did order a single top tube 52 cm Bombadil...I loved the 650b, price was just a bit more than a hunqapillar...and I got to pick the colordon't mean to complicate your choice but just something else to consider. https://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/14749097493/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: final test: help size up a hunq
Hi Bill, As I've mentioned, I have 54cm Hunq, my PBH is 85cm, and I am 175cm tall. Saddle height (center of BB to top of saddle) is 75cm. Picture of my Hunq with Noodle and Dirt Drop 8cm stem: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/8096995569/ The stem has an effect horizontal extension of 6 or 7 centimeters, and I feel comfortable with them. At first I had Dirt Drop 10cm stem; it made me feel a bit too stretched. I like handlebar to be high, which makes stem stick out pretty high, which in my opinion is not very cool-looking. I could have gone for 58cm frame, but then handlebar would have been too far away. Maybe you can find a stem with even shorter extension (5cm), but currently there is no such stem in Riv website. Bosco-bar with 13cm-extension stem: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/14771364047/ I like to ride bolt upright when on Bosco- or Alba- equipped bike, so again stem is sticking out high. Bullmoose: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/8690416089/ You can set this bar pretty high without showing much stem. I ride mostly on paved roads, sometimes unpaved roads. There are not many rideable trails around here (in Japan, trail usually means something like this https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/8740525489/in/photostream/, or something even worse), so I don't have have many chances to ride on trails. Anyway, you can ride wherever you like on your Hunq with whichever handlebar you have. When I found rideable trail on my way, both Bullmoose and Albatross bars worked fine. Good luck! Takashi 2014年9月9日火曜日 3時56分44秒 UTC+9 Mobile Bill: Ok, your comments on this site and Jared at Riv have just about talked me into dropping my money on a Hunquapillar rather than trying to resurrect the 650B Bombadil (may it ever RIP). But before I take the plunge, I'm wanting to think this sizing thing out more carefully. *Any of you with a 51 or 54 cm Hunq,* would you care to reveal your PBH, your height, your handlebar style and your comfort/satisfaction with the Hunq for the uses you are putting it to (would you specify briefly what those uses are?) (I used to claim my PBH was 83.5,which is about the mid-tube height of a 54 hunq with largest tires -- but using a hard metal ruler today, and trying again and again, I'm getting a pbh reading that looks more like 84-85. I am very comfortably fitted on a 58 cm Saluki with a thumb more than a fistful of seat tube showing. But this Hunq will be a hoppin' on and off rough jeep trail bike as well as a heavy load paved and gravel touring bike.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: final test: help size up a hunq
My PBH is 85cm, and I have 54cm Hunq. I am not in my house today; I can post some more details, along with pictures, a few days later. Takashi 2014年9月9日火曜日 3時56分44秒 UTC+9 Mobile Bill: Ok, your comments on this site and Jared at Riv have just about talked me into dropping my money on a Hunquapillar rather than trying to resurrect the 650B Bombadil (may it ever RIP). But before I take the plunge, I'm wanting to think this sizing thing out more carefully. *Any of you with a 51 or 54 cm Hunq,* would you care to reveal your PBH, your height, your handlebar style and your comfort/satisfaction with the Hunq for the uses you are putting it to (would you specify briefly what those uses are?) (I used to claim my PBH was 83.5,which is about the mid-tube height of a 54 hunq with largest tires -- but using a hard metal ruler today, and trying again and again, I'm getting a pbh reading that looks more like 84-85. I am very comfortably fitted on a 58 cm Saluki with a thumb more than a fistful of seat tube showing. But this Hunq will be a hoppin' on and off rough jeep trail bike as well as a heavy load paved and gravel touring bike.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: final test: help size up a hunq
Takashi has a beautifully built Hunqapillar and takes wonderful pictures. He's also a handlebar swapper, so it might give you a good look at various options. Here's his photostream: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/ On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:30:37 AM UTC-4, Takashi wrote: My PBH is 85cm, and I have 54cm Hunq. I am not in my house today; I can post some more details, along with pictures, a few days later. Takashi 2014年9月9日火曜日 3時56分44秒 UTC+9 Mobile Bill: Ok, your comments on this site and Jared at Riv have just about talked me into dropping my money on a Hunquapillar rather than trying to resurrect the 650B Bombadil (may it ever RIP). But before I take the plunge, I'm wanting to think this sizing thing out more carefully. *Any of you with a 51 or 54 cm Hunq,* would you care to reveal your PBH, your height, your handlebar style and your comfort/satisfaction with the Hunq for the uses you are putting it to (would you specify briefly what those uses are?) (I used to claim my PBH was 83.5,which is about the mid-tube height of a 54 hunq with largest tires -- but using a hard metal ruler today, and trying again and again, I'm getting a pbh reading that looks more like 84-85. I am very comfortably fitted on a 58 cm Saluki with a thumb more than a fistful of seat tube showing. But this Hunq will be a hoppin' on and off rough jeep trail bike as well as a heavy load paved and gravel touring bike.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: final test: help size up a hunq
I ride a 54cm Hunqapillar and I've run both Albatross and Boscos on it, and it's shod with (45? 50?) Schwalbe Marathon Supremes which are durable, flat-free in 2500 miles (it's only real benefit, really). I'm 5'9 with a PBH of 84. I use it as a all-weather, go-almost-anywhere, day/night, everything bike. I tour on it, I commute on it, I errandonneur on it, I ride to coffee on it (all. the. time.). It is stable, comfortable and fun whether I'm riding 1 mile or 100 miles. I've done a little gravel and double-track riding on it, but I run fenders and live in the city, so not a whole lot of that. As a frame of reference (yuk, yuk), my last bike was a 56cm Hillborne. The top tube length is almost the same, but I get much better stand-over on the Hunq. With a shorter stem, I wouldn't hesitate to put drop bars on it (but those are going on the Atlantis). Interestingly, the frame pump that fit the Hillborne perfectly is too small for my Hunq (and too big for the Atlantis I'm building up). That might be a non-sequitur, maybe not. Gratuitous Bosco pic: https://flic.kr/p/gVzuHm Gratuitous Albatross pic: https://flic.kr/p/ddc4tM After a season on the Boscos, I'm probably going back to the Albatross bars; they just feel better to me. You won't regret your Hunqapillar. Good luck! On Monday, September 8, 2014 11:56:44 AM UTC-7, Mobile Bill wrote: Ok, your comments on this site and Jared at Riv have just about talked me into dropping my money on a Hunquapillar rather than trying to resurrect the 650B Bombadil (may it ever RIP). But before I take the plunge, I'm wanting to think this sizing thing out more carefully. *Any of you with a 51 or 54 cm Hunq,* would you care to reveal your PBH, your height, your handlebar style and your comfort/satisfaction with the Hunq for the uses you are putting it to (would you specify briefly what those uses are?) (I used to claim my PBH was 83.5,which is about the mid-tube height of a 54 hunq with largest tires -- but using a hard metal ruler today, and trying again and again, I'm getting a pbh reading that looks more like 84-85. I am very comfortably fitted on a 58 cm Saluki with a thumb more than a fistful of seat tube showing. But this Hunq will be a hoppin' on and off rough jeep trail bike as well as a heavy load paved and gravel touring bike.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: final test: help size up a hunq
Hi Bill, Does 26er or 29er matter to you? That might persuade you to go one way or the other. My PBH is a smidge under 81cm (~170cm tall or 5'7), and Riv recommends 48 or 51 for me. I went with 48cm-- plenty of stand-over clearance, which was important to me for off-road riding. Also, I wanted to run drop bars and/or moustache, so I went with the 48 for the shorter top tube (54.5 vs 57.5). (Works fine for me with ~10-cm stem for drops. I didn't want to use a stubby stem for drops.) I've tried albatross, too, and they're fine with a 12-cm stem. I probably need a slightly longer stem to improve the position. I also have bullmoose (not the bosco), and those are great for the trail. As is, I sometimes wish I could get them a little lower. Maybe that's something to consider if you're choosing between 51 or 54? Good luck, Shoji On Monday, September 8, 2014 2:56:44 PM UTC-4, Mobile Bill wrote: Ok, your comments on this site and Jared at Riv have just about talked me into dropping my money on a Hunquapillar rather than trying to resurrect the 650B Bombadil (may it ever RIP). But before I take the plunge, I'm wanting to think this sizing thing out more carefully. *Any of you with a 51 or 54 cm Hunq,* would you care to reveal your PBH, your height, your handlebar style and your comfort/satisfaction with the Hunq for the uses you are putting it to (would you specify briefly what those uses are?) (I used to claim my PBH was 83.5,which is about the mid-tube height of a 54 hunq with largest tires -- but using a hard metal ruler today, and trying again and again, I'm getting a pbh reading that looks more like 84-85. I am very comfortably fitted on a 58 cm Saluki with a thumb more than a fistful of seat tube showing. But this Hunq will be a hoppin' on and off rough jeep trail bike as well as a heavy load paved and gravel touring bike.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: final test: help size up a hunq
I have a 54cm Hunq. My PBH is 84cm, and I am just shy of 5' 10. The stand-over on the Hung was a little tight with 2.1 tires, but okay with 38mm Little Big Bens. I have mustache bars on an 80mm dirt drop stem. The bike is very comfortable, although initially I had some concern that the top tube might be too long. I've on had it for two months and have just been riding it around town, but tomorrow I'm doing a 30+ mile ride on a rail trail which is more like what it is made for. I'm in my mid-60s and not as limber as I used to be. I like a relatively short TT and short stem extension. YMMV. Sounds like you might be in that frustrating place between a 51 and a 54cm Hunq. I bought my bike used and didn't an option to get a 51, but the 54 is working okay for me. For reference, I ride a 57cm Bleriot, a 56cm Atlantis (26 wheels) and a 58cm Rambouillet. I have thousands of miles on those bikes and they all seem to fit me. On Monday, September 8, 2014 2:56:44 PM UTC-4, Mobile Bill wrote: Ok, your comments on this site and Jared at Riv have just about talked me into dropping my money on a Hunquapillar rather than trying to resurrect the 650B Bombadil (may it ever RIP). But before I take the plunge, I'm wanting to think this sizing thing out more carefully. *Any of you with a 51 or 54 cm Hunq,* would you care to reveal your PBH, your height, your handlebar style and your comfort/satisfaction with the Hunq for the uses you are putting it to (would you specify briefly what those uses are?) (I used to claim my PBH was 83.5,which is about the mid-tube height of a 54 hunq with largest tires -- but using a hard metal ruler today, and trying again and again, I'm getting a pbh reading that looks more like 84-85. I am very comfortably fitted on a 58 cm Saluki with a thumb more than a fistful of seat tube showing. But this Hunq will be a hoppin' on and off rough jeep trail bike as well as a heavy load paved and gravel touring bike.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: final test: help size up a hunq
Another option could be what i did order a single top tube 52 cm Bombadil...I loved the 650b, price was just a bit more than a hunqapillar...and I got to pick the colordon't mean to complicate your choice but just something else to consider. https://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/14749097493/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
