[RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
Don't despair. You really do not need that much work to get it to fit onto your bike. I've got a Nitto rack on my Sam, but recently purchased the VO rack because $55 seemed like too good of a deal to pass up. I currently have the VO rack installed on my Surly Steamroller. Now, I did have to grind down the bold underneath the crown about a quarter inch, but it wasn't a big deal. The p-clamps worked like a charm and I had to do minimal bending to get the rack to fit properly. Don't give up; try to install it. tony On Apr 24, 8:34 am, William L. Stump wst...@uwyo.edu wrote: I played with it yesterday and I don't think it's going to work without major finagling. The included bolt that hangs from the brake bolt almost touches the front tire. I should have got the Marks rack but the price was off putting but now I'm out $55 (no returns on VO specials). Oh well live and learn. William From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William [tapebu...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:05 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet Another big part to the Marks Rack versatility is that is can be mated to a platrack. Four Nitto front racks (two Marks, two Mini Fronts) in my stable. One Platrack means any of those four bikes can be set up Porteur style at the drop of a hat. That reminds me..it's getting close to the time to pick which bike is going on the Angel Island S24O in two weeks. On Apr 22, 11:03 pm, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Steve, I didn't mean to suggest any superiority amongst racks. I just prefer the versatility of the Mark's rack. I bought mine years ago for front use on my Ram. Since then it has served good time on an Atlantis, a Bleriot , a QB, and a Karate Monkey.. Front and rear. I don't think it's superior at anything. It's just decent to good at more things than most racks out there. I like that kind of value. -Jay B. On Apr 22, 5:22 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 16:19 -0700, J. Burkhalter wrote: If you don't have the appropriate braze-ons you'll have to use p- clamps, and I'd still probably trade the VO for the Mark's Rack. Why? In what way is Mark's Rack superior to the VO rack assuming a P-clamp installation? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
Thanks, I'll give that a try. On Apr 24, 11:21 pm, Tony Lockhart tony.lockh...@hotmail.com wrote: Don't despair. You really do not need that much work to get it to fit onto your bike. I've got a Nitto rack on my Sam, but recently purchased the VO rack because $55 seemed like too good of a deal to pass up. I currently have the VO rack installed on my Surly Steamroller. Now, I did have to grind down the bold underneath the crown about a quarter inch, but it wasn't a big deal. The p-clamps worked like a charm and I had to do minimal bending to get the rack to fit properly. Don't give up; try to install it. tony On Apr 24, 8:34 am, William L. Stump wst...@uwyo.edu wrote: I played with it yesterday and I don't think it's going to work without major finagling. The included bolt that hangs from the brake bolt almost touches the front tire. I should have got the Marks rack but the price was off putting but now I'm out $55 (no returns on VO specials). Oh well live and learn. William From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William [tapebu...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:05 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet Another big part to the Marks Rack versatility is that is can be mated to a platrack. Four Nitto front racks (two Marks, two Mini Fronts) in my stable. One Platrack means any of those four bikes can be set up Porteur style at the drop of a hat. That reminds me..it's getting close to the time to pick which bike is going on the Angel Island S24O in two weeks. On Apr 22, 11:03 pm, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Steve, I didn't mean to suggest any superiority amongst racks. I just prefer the versatility of the Mark's rack. I bought mine years ago for front use on my Ram. Since then it has served good time on an Atlantis, a Bleriot , a QB, and a Karate Monkey.. Front and rear. I don't think it's superior at anything. It's just decent to good at more things than most racks out there. I like that kind of value. -Jay B. On Apr 22, 5:22 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 16:19 -0700, J. Burkhalter wrote: If you don't have the appropriate braze-ons you'll have to use p- clamps, and I'd still probably trade the VO for the Mark's Rack. Why? In what way is Mark's Rack superior to the VO rack assuming a P-clamp installation? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
I played with it yesterday and I don't think it's going to work without major finagling. The included bolt that hangs from the brake bolt almost touches the front tire. I should have got the Marks rack but the price was off putting but now I'm out $55 (no returns on VO specials). Oh well live and learn. William From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of William [tapebu...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:05 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet Another big part to the Marks Rack versatility is that is can be mated to a platrack. Four Nitto front racks (two Marks, two Mini Fronts) in my stable. One Platrack means any of those four bikes can be set up Porteur style at the drop of a hat. That reminds me..it's getting close to the time to pick which bike is going on the Angel Island S24O in two weeks. On Apr 22, 11:03 pm, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Steve, I didn't mean to suggest any superiority amongst racks.I just prefer the versatility of the Mark's rack. I bought mine years ago for front use on my Ram. Since then it has served good time on an Atlantis, a Bleriot , a QB, and a Karate Monkey.. Front and rear. I don't think it's superior at anything. It's just decent to good at more things than most racks out there. I like that kind of value. -Jay B. On Apr 22, 5:22 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 16:19 -0700, J. Burkhalter wrote: If you don't have the appropriate braze-ons you'll have to use p- clamps, and I'd still probably trade the VO for the Mark's Rack. Why? In what way is Mark's Rack superior to the VO rack assuming a P-clamp installation? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
On Sun, 2011-04-24 at 09:34 -0600, William L. Stump wrote: I played with it yesterday and I don't think it's going to work without major finagling. The included bolt that hangs from the brake bolt almost touches the front tire. I should have got the Marks rack but the price was off putting but now I'm out $55 (no returns on VO specials). Oh well live and learn. So offer it for sale! It will work on other bikes. I saw a Bob Jackson Audax model yesterday that had a VO Randonneur front rack mounted with clamps on the fork blades. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
Hey Steve, I didn't mean to suggest any superiority amongst racks.I just prefer the versatility of the Mark's rack. I bought mine years ago for front use on my Ram. Since then it has served good time on an Atlantis, a Bleriot , a QB, and a Karate Monkey.. Front and rear. I don't think it's superior at anything. It's just decent to good at more things than most racks out there. I like that kind of value. -Jay B. On Apr 22, 5:22 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 16:19 -0700, J. Burkhalter wrote: If you don't have the appropriate braze-ons you'll have to use p- clamps, and I'd still probably trade the VO for the Mark's Rack. Why? In what way is Mark's Rack superior to the VO rack assuming a P-clamp installation? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
Another big part to the Marks Rack versatility is that is can be mated to a platrack. Four Nitto front racks (two Marks, two Mini Fronts) in my stable. One Platrack means any of those four bikes can be set up Porteur style at the drop of a hat. That reminds me..it's getting close to the time to pick which bike is going on the Angel Island S24O in two weeks. On Apr 22, 11:03 pm, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Steve, I didn't mean to suggest any superiority amongst racks. I just prefer the versatility of the Mark's rack. I bought mine years ago for front use on my Ram. Since then it has served good time on an Atlantis, a Bleriot , a QB, and a Karate Monkey.. Front and rear. I don't think it's superior at anything. It's just decent to good at more things than most racks out there. I like that kind of value. -Jay B. On Apr 22, 5:22 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 16:19 -0700, J. Burkhalter wrote: If you don't have the appropriate braze-ons you'll have to use p- clamps, and I'd still probably trade the VO for the Mark's Rack. Why? In what way is Mark's Rack superior to the VO rack assuming a P-clamp installation? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
I agree that the Mark's Rack versatility is a big plus (it can even be installed on the rear of the bike). The VO front rack certainly would work well with a bike that has the appropriate bosses on the forks. The amount of adjustabilty of the VO rack is, however, somewhat limited. There's also an advantage to the Mark's Rack, in my opinion, since Rivendell has made bags that are specifically designed to fit that rack (e.g. Li'l Loafer, Sackville TrunkSack). Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Apr 23, 9:05 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Another big part to the Marks Rack versatility is that is can be mated to a platrack. Four Nitto front racks (two Marks, two Mini Fronts) in my stable. One Platrack means any of those four bikes can be set up Porteur style at the drop of a hat. That reminds me..it's getting close to the time to pick which bike is going on the Angel Island S24O in two weeks. On Apr 22, 11:03 pm, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Steve, I didn't mean to suggest any superiority amongst racks. I just prefer the versatility of the Mark's rack. I bought mine years ago for front use on my Ram. Since then it has served good time on an Atlantis, a Bleriot , a QB, and a Karate Monkey.. Front and rear. I don't think it's superior at anything. It's just decent to good at more things than most racks out there. I like that kind of value. -Jay B. On Apr 22, 5:22 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 16:19 -0700, J. Burkhalter wrote: If you don't have the appropriate braze-ons you'll have to use p- clamps, and I'd still probably trade the VO for the Mark's Rack. Why? In what way is Mark's Rack superior to the VO rack assuming a P-clamp installation? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
At a min. you need p-clamps because the Ram does not have eyelets on the fork. Even then it might be tough because the arms on this rack are not adjustable, if you do get it mounted please post back so that others will have a reference :) On Apr 22, 3:18 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 09:01 -0700, William in Wyo wrote: Hi All, I got one of these nifty racks from VO http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-randonneur-front-rack-stain... and has anyone put one on a Rambouillet? Mines a 58 with Tektro R538 brakes and 32C tires, no fender. At first glance it has me scratching my head as the struts seem to short. Before I start bending things I wanted to see if there any tricks I should know about. Thanks! That rack is made for the VO Randonneur frame, which has rack mounts on the fork in the appropriate place. The Rambouillet has no such fittings. You could, I suppose, mount it with clamps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
Hey William, If your Ram has the appropriate mid fork braze-ons (I think only the green ones did?), I'd send that rack back to VO and order up a Mark's Rack from Riv http://tinyurl.com/45yjau5 It will fit great. If you don't have the appropriate braze-ons you'll have to use p- clamps, and I'd still probably trade the VO for the Mark's Rack. -Jay B On Apr 22, 10:01 am, William in Wyo wlst...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I got one of these nifty racks from VOhttp://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-randonneur-front-rack-stain... and has anyone put one on a Rambouillet? Mines a 58 with Tektro R538 brakes and 32C tires, no fender. At first glance it has me scratching my head as the struts seem to short. Before I start bending things I wanted to see if there any tricks I should know about. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
Nope, mine doesn't. I used the Riv Mark's rack. Bill Louisville, Ky On Apr 22, 2011, at 7:19 PM, J. Burkhalter wrote: If your Ram has the appropriate mid fork braze-ons (I think only the green ones did?), -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
I have the p-clamps, but the struts still seem too short to get the rack level. I'll try and bolt it on (under the crown) and se how it lines up. On Apr 22, 1:18 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 09:01 -0700, William in Wyo wrote: Hi All, I got one of these nifty racks from VO http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-randonneur-front-rack-stain... and has anyone put one on a Rambouillet? Mines a 58 with Tektro R538 brakes and 32C tires, no fender. At first glance it has me scratching my head as the struts seem to short. Before I start bending things I wanted to see if there any tricks I should know about. Thanks! That rack is made for the VO Randonneur frame, which has rack mounts on the fork in the appropriate place. The Rambouillet has no such fittings. You could, I suppose, mount it with clamps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
I used p-clamps with my VO rack and mounted it under the crown. The clamps didn't get quite tight enough so I cut strips of rubber as shims. EJG http://www.flickr.com/photos/31238317@N03/5402648956/in/set-72157625488603586 On Apr 22, 3:31 pm, William in Wyo wlst...@gmail.com wrote: I have the p-clamps, but the struts still seem too short to get the rack level. I'll try and bolt it on (under the crown) and se how it lines up. On Apr 22, 1:18 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 09:01 -0700, William in Wyo wrote: Hi All, I got one of these nifty racks from VO http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-randonneur-front-rack-stain... and has anyone put one on a Rambouillet? Mines a 58 with Tektro R538 brakes and 32C tires, no fender. At first glance it has me scratching my head as the struts seem to short. Before I start bending things I wanted to see if there any tricks I should know about. Thanks! That rack is made for the VO Randonneur frame, which has rack mounts on the fork in the appropriate place. The Rambouillet has no such fittings. You could, I suppose, mount it with clamps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
Orange, blue, and early green Rams didn't; late green Rams do have 'em. -L On Apr 22, 7:33 pm, William Pustow bpus...@aol.com wrote: Nope, mine doesn't. I used the Riv Mark's rack. Bill Louisville, Ky On Apr 22, 2011, at 7:19 PM, J. Burkhalter wrote: If your Ram has the appropriate mid fork braze-ons (I think only the green ones did?), -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
