RE: [RBW] Re: play in Onza pedals

2024-01-26 Thread Bernard Duhon

Sage Advice!

Why am I trying to keep 25 +year-old peddle rolling?

I will not purchase somebody else's 25-year-old peddle in the hopes that it's a 
better condition than mine & to try and rebuild it.

In the words of a Bruce Cockburn song “it's a sin to try and make things last 
forever”

I'll either by the A520s preferably the A600 both rare and a600 I found is five 
times the price of the A520.

Like a lot of things, put it in writing and you see it, the decision becomes 
obvious.

That's what's so good about user groups.

That is particularly true where I live. Rivendell oriented  cyclists are 
lone-rangers!



From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Ron Mc
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024 9:30 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: play in Onza pedals

Pedal clicking is usually in the big bushings or wear in the shaft itself.
You'll note rebuilds kits include these two items, plus the bearings.
Found this on ebay - price is right if it matches your pedal.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/155873406654
On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 9:19:41 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
If you have a sealed bearing object that has developed play IN THE BEARINGS, 
and you insist on making the play go away*, then you have to replace the 
bearings.  It is generally a lot easier to install cartridge bearings than it 
is to remove them.  Some sealed bearing objects are designed with no intention 
of bearings ever being removed.  Even those objects that are designed to have 
replaceable bearings, it typically requires a special tool.

So, for your ~30 year old Onza pedals, long out of production, you'll need to 
figure it out for yourself or hire somebody who has already figured it out.  
Like, if there is such a thing as a tiny bearing puller, and it cost $100, 
would you buy that tool?  Have you fully removed the spindle and confirmed the 
play is in bearings?  Some pedals have plastic bushings instead of bearings at 
the outside end.  Do you have those?  Bushings are relatively straightforward 
to remanufacture, in a hobbyist machine shop.
*if you decide you can live with it, it may get worse, but there's little 
chance of damaging anything else, and the pedals won't fly apart.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 6:48:51 AM UTC-8 ber...@bernardduhon.com wrote:
I have 2 sets of Onza spd pedals (with elastomers).  Both have developed a 
little play.  They have cartridge bearings. One set has 9,000.00 miles the 
other 3,000..
Cleaning & regreasing only a little help
Minimum adjustment options.

Any experience or suggestions?

I’d like to keep em, one of em has a ti spindle.



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[RBW] Re: play in Onza pedals

2024-01-26 Thread Ron Mc
Pedal clicking is usually in the big bushings or wear in the shaft itself.  
You'll note rebuilds kits include these two items, plus the bearings.  
Found this on ebay - price is right if it matches your pedal.  
https://www.ebay.com/itm/155873406654

On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 9:19:41 AM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> If you have a sealed bearing object that has developed play IN THE 
> BEARINGS, and you insist on making the play go away*, then you have to 
> replace the bearings.  It is generally a lot easier to install cartridge 
> bearings than it is to remove them.  Some sealed bearing objects are 
> designed with no intention of bearings ever being removed.  Even those 
> objects that are designed to have replaceable bearings, it typically 
> requires a special tool.  
>
> So, for your ~30 year old Onza pedals, long out of production, you'll need 
> to figure it out for yourself or hire somebody who has already figured it 
> out.  Like, if there is such a thing as a tiny bearing puller, and it cost 
> $100, would you buy that tool?  Have you fully removed the spindle and 
> confirmed the play is in bearings?  Some pedals have plastic bushings 
> instead of bearings at the outside end.  Do you have those?  Bushings are 
> relatively straightforward to remanufacture, in a hobbyist machine shop.  
>
> *if you decide you can live with it, it may get worse, but there's little 
> chance of damaging anything else, and the pedals won't fly apart.  
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 6:48:51 AM UTC-8 ber...@bernardduhon.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I have 2 sets of Onza spd pedals (with elastomers).  Both have developed 
>> a little play.  They have cartridge bearings. One set has 9,000.00 miles 
>> the other 3,000.. 
>> Cleaning & regreasing only a little help 
>> Minimum adjustment options. 
>>  
>> Any experience or suggestions?
>>  
>> I’d like to keep em, one of em has a ti spindle.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: play in Onza pedals

2024-01-26 Thread Bill Lindsay
If you have a sealed bearing object that has developed play IN THE 
BEARINGS, and you insist on making the play go away*, then you have to 
replace the bearings.  It is generally a lot easier to install cartridge 
bearings than it is to remove them.  Some sealed bearing objects are 
designed with no intention of bearings ever being removed.  Even those 
objects that are designed to have replaceable bearings, it typically 
requires a special tool.  

So, for your ~30 year old Onza pedals, long out of production, you'll need 
to figure it out for yourself or hire somebody who has already figured it 
out.  Like, if there is such a thing as a tiny bearing puller, and it cost 
$100, would you buy that tool?  Have you fully removed the spindle and 
confirmed the play is in bearings?  Some pedals have plastic bushings 
instead of bearings at the outside end.  Do you have those?  Bushings are 
relatively straightforward to remanufacture, in a hobbyist machine shop.  

*if you decide you can live with it, it may get worse, but there's little 
chance of damaging anything else, and the pedals won't fly apart.  

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito, CA
On Friday, January 26, 2024 at 6:48:51 AM UTC-8 ber...@bernardduhon.com 
wrote:

> I have 2 sets of Onza spd pedals (with elastomers).  Both have developed a 
> little play.  They have cartridge bearings. One set has 9,000.00 miles the 
> other 3,000.. 
> Cleaning & regreasing only a little help 
> Minimum adjustment options. 
>  
> Any experience or suggestions?
>  
> I’d like to keep em, one of em has a ti spindle.
>  
>  
>  
>

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