[RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-19 Thread EricP
Also am hoping they actually do arrive.  Will order at least one,
mebbe two.  With a huge caveat - depends on the actual sizing of the
item.  Hopefully XL will be made.  And hopefully it isn't starving
Italian XL.

Used to wear wool/tweed sweaters back in college.  Would like to do so
again, if for no other reason to honor the memory of a friend.

Hopefully, the sizing won't be too bad.  While I love the cowboy
shirts, they are only good for me as an over-shirt with rolled up
sleeves.  Both the arms and side cuts are too short.  (But then again,
if I were to get back to losing weight, it might not be as much an
issue.)

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jan 18, 11:10 pm, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:
 My in-laws gifted me with a WW vest when they were still available. I
 wear the crap out of it. The neck is great when I don't feel like
 taking along a scarf, and folds down out of the way when I'm not so
 cold. It has holes in it and the corner of the rear pocket sags a
 little lopsidedly. I will probably wear it until it shreds.

 I got a cardigan shortly after it came out. Two days after it arrived,
 my sister's cat (who has a thing for wool -- anyone ever heard of this
 in cats?) ATE a 2-inch chunk from the cuff. I repaired it badly using
 wool yarn and a small-diameter crochet hook (I don't know how to knit
 and probably couldn't have gotten it that fine anyhow). It looks funky
 but the sweater is my daily too-cold-in-the-morning garment while I
 sip coffee and read the news. After work, I slip it on again in the
 evening. Sort of like Mister Rogers.

 I've got two and I'm all set; but if you have not owned WW tweedies
 before and can afford one now, buy one when they come back. You'll
 like it.

 Meanwhile, I am waiting for the return of the Wooly Warm jersey (with
 the button placket!) and heavier-weight trainer. A girl can dream.
 Beth

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[RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-19 Thread JoelMatthews
 Also am hoping they actually do arrive.  Will order at least one,
 mebbe two.  With a huge caveat - depends on the actual sizing of the
 item.  Hopefully XL will be made.  And hopefully it isn't starving
 Italian XL.

I think the reason Riv dropped them is the original manufacturers (as
I understand a couple working literally out of a cottage in rural
Englad) retired.  Presumably Riv found a new manufacturer so prior
sizing will be no guide.

For what it is worth my Woolywarm Cardigan is larger than I expected.
Not a problem as I can wear it over a a shirt and light sweater on
winter nights with my thermostat at 55.

On Jan 19, 9:26 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 Also am hoping they actually do arrive.  Will order at least one,
 mebbe two.  With a huge caveat - depends on the actual sizing of the
 item.  Hopefully XL will be made.  And hopefully it isn't starving
 Italian XL.

 Used to wear wool/tweed sweaters back in college.  Would like to do so
 again, if for no other reason to honor the memory of a friend.

 Hopefully, the sizing won't be too bad.  While I love the cowboy
 shirts, they are only good for me as an over-shirt with rolled up
 sleeves.  Both the arms and side cuts are too short.  (But then again,
 if I were to get back to losing weight, it might not be as much an
 issue.)

 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

 On Jan 18, 11:10 pm, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:



  My in-laws gifted me with a WW vest when they were still available. I
  wear the crap out of it. The neck is great when I don't feel like
  taking along a scarf, and folds down out of the way when I'm not so
  cold. It has holes in it and the corner of the rear pocket sags a
  little lopsidedly. I will probably wear it until it shreds.

  I got a cardigan shortly after it came out. Two days after it arrived,
  my sister's cat (who has a thing for wool -- anyone ever heard of this
  in cats?) ATE a 2-inch chunk from the cuff. I repaired it badly using
  wool yarn and a small-diameter crochet hook (I don't know how to knit
  and probably couldn't have gotten it that fine anyhow). It looks funky
  but the sweater is my daily too-cold-in-the-morning garment while I
  sip coffee and read the news. After work, I slip it on again in the
  evening. Sort of like Mister Rogers.

  I've got two and I'm all set; but if you have not owned WW tweedies
  before and can afford one now, buy one when they come back. You'll
  like it.

  Meanwhile, I am waiting for the return of the Wooly Warm jersey (with
  the button placket!) and heavier-weight trainer. A girl can dream.
  Beth- Hide quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-19 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/18/11 9:10 PM, Beth H at periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Meanwhile, I am waiting for the return of the Wooly Warm jersey (with
 the button placket!) and heavier-weight trainer. A girl can dream.

We do share that dream, beth!

I've got a L/S WoolyWarm that sees the bulk of my commute and riding use -
it's such a nice weight and design.

As for a heavier-weight trainer, I was thinking about trying to put together
a Pleading for it list - given that production would probably be more than
a few months.  I've got an old one that came from a previous employer - who
incorporated the World Champion stripes into the sleeve accents.  Now,
riding around the Bay Area, you are reasonably likely to run across a ton of
people who know what that is, and even a few people who are likely to be
authorized to wear it.  So, it's always seemed a negative and bugged me a
bit every time I put it on.

But, yeah.  Heavier weight trainer.  One or two outside pockets on the back.
Understated logo OK. Even a blend would work - particularly on this style.

- J

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[RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-19 Thread Michael_S
I have one of the Sugoi Long sleeve wool jerseys that is kind of what
you describe, one small pcoket, very heavy 100% wool design with a
simple retro front logo.
It's my go to top for nightime winter rides in chilly So Cal.
That said I'd love to get one of the Wooly warm jerseys... esp in
green!

~Mike



On Jan 19, 8:18 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 1/18/11 9:10 PM, Beth H at periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Meanwhile, I am waiting for the return of the Wooly Warm jersey (with
  the button placket!) and heavier-weight trainer. A girl can dream.

 We do share that dream, beth!

 I've got a L/S WoolyWarm that sees the bulk of my commute and riding use -
 it's such a nice weight and design.

 As for a heavier-weight trainer, I was thinking about trying to put together
 a Pleading for it list - given that production would probably be more than
 a few months.  I've got an old one that came from a previous employer - who
 incorporated the World Champion stripes into the sleeve accents.  Now,
 riding around the Bay Area, you are reasonably likely to run across a ton of
 people who know what that is, and even a few people who are likely to be
 authorized to wear it.  So, it's always seemed a negative and bugged me a
 bit every time I put it on.

 But, yeah.  Heavier weight trainer.  One or two outside pockets on the back.
 Understated logo OK. Even a blend would work - particularly on this style.

 - J

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Re: [RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-19 Thread JimD

While we are dreaming of great Riv wool stuff.
I'm waiting for another great wool short sleeve jersey. Please.
-JimD

On Jan 19, 2011, at 8:18 AM  Jan 19, 2011, CycloFiend wrote:


on 1/18/11 9:10 PM, Beth H at periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:


Meanwhile, I am waiting for the return of the Wooly Warm jersey (with
the button placket!) and heavier-weight trainer. A girl can dream.


We do share that dream, beth!

I've got a L/S WoolyWarm that sees the bulk of my commute and riding  
use -

it's such a nice weight and design.

As for a heavier-weight trainer, I was thinking about trying to put  
together
a Pleading for it list - given that production would probably be  
more than
a few months.  I've got an old one that came from a previous  
employer - who

incorporated the World Champion stripes into the sleeve accents.  Now,
riding around the Bay Area, you are reasonably likely to run across  
a ton of
people who know what that is, and even a few people who are likely  
to be
authorized to wear it.  So, it's always seemed a negative and bugged  
me a

bit every time I put it on.

But, yeah.  Heavier weight trainer.  One or two outside pockets on  
the back.
Understated logo OK. Even a blend would work - particularly on this  
style.


- J

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outcome; the
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grace.


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Re: [RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-19 Thread Bruce
You can get these from Woolistic, including some that Riv used to carry. I was 
the very happy recipient of two for my birthday this past year!

Like two of the three on this page:

http://www.vintagevelos.com/12-unique-wool-jerseys





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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

While we are dreaming of great Riv wool stuff.
I'm waiting for another great wool short sleeve jersey. Please.
-JimD


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[RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-19 Thread Beth H
The blue trainer Riv offered had a small wooly warm logo with a lamb
on it. That's plenty logo right there. I would've bought one but I
only had enough money for either the trainer or the heavy wool pants
(remember those?), and picked the pants. So yes, a Pleading For list
might be cool.
Beth

 As for a heavier-weight trainer, I was thinking about trying to put together
 a Pleading for it list - given that production would probably be more than
 a few months.

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[RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-19 Thread Bill M.
Eric,

At least around my family, starving Italian is an oxymoron.  :)  My
father has been known to say that his epitaph should be He never
missed a meal.

Bill Mennuti

On Jan 19, 7:26 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 Also am hoping they actually do arrive.  Will order at least one,
 mebbe two.  With a huge caveat - depends on the actual sizing of the
 item.  Hopefully XL will be made.  And hopefully it isn't starving
 Italian XL.

 Used to wear wool/tweed sweaters back in college.  Would like to do so
 again, if for no other reason to honor the memory of a friend.

 Hopefully, the sizing won't be too bad.  While I love the cowboy
 shirts, they are only good for me as an over-shirt with rolled up
 sleeves.  Both the arms and side cuts are too short.  (But then again,
 if I were to get back to losing weight, it might not be as much an
 issue.)

 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

 On Jan 18, 11:10 pm, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:



  My in-laws gifted me with a WW vest when they were still available. I
  wear the crap out of it. The neck is great when I don't feel like
  taking along a scarf, and folds down out of the way when I'm not so
  cold. It has holes in it and the corner of the rear pocket sags a
  little lopsidedly. I will probably wear it until it shreds.

  I got a cardigan shortly after it came out. Two days after it arrived,
  my sister's cat (who has a thing for wool -- anyone ever heard of this
  in cats?) ATE a 2-inch chunk from the cuff. I repaired it badly using
  wool yarn and a small-diameter crochet hook (I don't know how to knit
  and probably couldn't have gotten it that fine anyhow). It looks funky
  but the sweater is my daily too-cold-in-the-morning garment while I
  sip coffee and read the news. After work, I slip it on again in the
  evening. Sort of like Mister Rogers.

  I've got two and I'm all set; but if you have not owned WW tweedies
  before and can afford one now, buy one when they come back. You'll
  like it.

  Meanwhile, I am waiting for the return of the Wooly Warm jersey (with
  the button placket!) and heavier-weight trainer. A girl can dream.
  Beth

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[RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-19 Thread EricP
Actually, my main worries are (a) european rather than US
(over)sizing.  Although am quite comfortable in most XL clothing,
with, say, Rapha, XXL is still tight. (b) with the higher cost of
items, would not surprise much if the only offerings were S, M, and
L.  Then would be on the outside looking in.

(Do believe Grant used starving Italian to refer to sizing of the
old wool jerseys that Rivendell sold.)  Have also never missed a
meal.  There is a reason no one says starving Swede or starving
Norske.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jan 19, 7:28 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
 Eric,

 At least around my family, starving Italian is an oxymoron.  :)  My
 father has been known to say that his epitaph should be He never
 missed a meal.

 Bill Mennuti

 On Jan 19, 7:26 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:



  Also am hoping they actually do arrive.  Will order at least one,
  mebbe two.  With a huge caveat - depends on the actual sizing of the
  item.  Hopefully XL will be made.  And hopefully it isn't starving
  Italian XL.

  Used to wear wool/tweed sweaters back in college.  Would like to do so
  again, if for no other reason to honor the memory of a friend.

  Hopefully, the sizing won't be too bad.  While I love the cowboy
  shirts, they are only good for me as an over-shirt with rolled up
  sleeves.  Both the arms and side cuts are too short.  (But then again,
  if I were to get back to losing weight, it might not be as much an
  issue.)

  Eric Platt
  St. Paul, MN

  On Jan 18, 11:10 pm, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:

   My in-laws gifted me with a WW vest when they were still available. I
   wear the crap out of it. The neck is great when I don't feel like
   taking along a scarf, and folds down out of the way when I'm not so
   cold. It has holes in it and the corner of the rear pocket sags a
   little lopsidedly. I will probably wear it until it shreds.

   I got a cardigan shortly after it came out. Two days after it arrived,
   my sister's cat (who has a thing for wool -- anyone ever heard of this
   in cats?) ATE a 2-inch chunk from the cuff. I repaired it badly using
   wool yarn and a small-diameter crochet hook (I don't know how to knit
   and probably couldn't have gotten it that fine anyhow). It looks funky
   but the sweater is my daily too-cold-in-the-morning garment while I
   sip coffee and read the news. After work, I slip it on again in the
   evening. Sort of like Mister Rogers.

   I've got two and I'm all set; but if you have not owned WW tweedies
   before and can afford one now, buy one when they come back. You'll
   like it.

   Meanwhile, I am waiting for the return of the Wooly Warm jersey (with
   the button placket!) and heavier-weight trainer. A girl can dream.
   Beth- Hide quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-19 Thread Tim McNamara
Sizing amounts to a black art and varies radically from manufacturer to 
manufacturer and from country of origin to country of origin.  Americans are 
unfathomably huge to much of the world- both in height and girth.  If you 
travel a bit you will often observe that Americans tend to be both the tallest 
and widest people in a crowd.  And the loudest, too.  In Paris I noticed that 
you could spot Americans a block away, easy.  We're just that much bigger.  
Restaurant staff knew I was an American before I had gotten across the 
threshold.

I found that the Riv seersucker shirts fit me well, but most other Riv XL tops 
have been too small for a 6'4 215 lbs guy.  However, that's by no means unique 
to Riv, at many stores I have to look at XXL and/or XL-tall.  Then the items 
are usually such too large in the torso to get them long enough in the arms.  
At LL Bean, OTOH, I have to buy L-tall or I can use the shirt as an overcoat.

I do not envy Grant/et al in trying to get sizing right.  I imagine it is the 
source of many headaches.

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[RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-18 Thread manueljohnacosta
I want a cardigan. Teachers should all have cardigans! with leather
elbow pads!

On Jan 18, 6:31 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yay!

 from the knothole:

 Many of you know about the old Tweed knit sweater-things, and will be
 happy to know that we'll have these in again. Some changes, bound to
 disappoint anybody who likes a thing more when it's no longer
 available, but from the standpoint of view from where I sit, the
 changes will be improvements. Probably a pullover, definitely the
 cardigan, and a vest-again, for now.

 I'm thrilled. I bought one from Chris's Garage sale and I love it. I
 want another one and I want a cardigan.

 Grant, if you're reading this: when can I preorder one?

 -sv

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[RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-18 Thread JoelMatthews
I am wearing my woolywarm cardigan right now.  Very warm and
comfortable.  Going on 4 years old and holding up well.

On Jan 18, 9:00 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
wrote:
 I want a cardigan. Teachers should all have cardigans! with leather
 elbow pads!

 On Jan 18, 6:31 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:



  Yay!

  from the knothole:

  Many of you know about the old Tweed knit sweater-things, and will be
  happy to know that we'll have these in again. Some changes, bound to
  disappoint anybody who likes a thing more when it's no longer
  available, but from the standpoint of view from where I sit, the
  changes will be improvements. Probably a pullover, definitely the
  cardigan, and a vest-again, for now.

  I'm thrilled. I bought one from Chris's Garage sale and I love it. I
  want another one and I want a cardigan.

  Grant, if you're reading this: when can I preorder one?

  -sv

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[RBW] Re: tweed knit sweaters are coming back!

2011-01-18 Thread Beth H
My in-laws gifted me with a WW vest when they were still available. I
wear the crap out of it. The neck is great when I don't feel like
taking along a scarf, and folds down out of the way when I'm not so
cold. It has holes in it and the corner of the rear pocket sags a
little lopsidedly. I will probably wear it until it shreds.

I got a cardigan shortly after it came out. Two days after it arrived,
my sister's cat (who has a thing for wool -- anyone ever heard of this
in cats?) ATE a 2-inch chunk from the cuff. I repaired it badly using
wool yarn and a small-diameter crochet hook (I don't know how to knit
and probably couldn't have gotten it that fine anyhow). It looks funky
but the sweater is my daily too-cold-in-the-morning garment while I
sip coffee and read the news. After work, I slip it on again in the
evening. Sort of like Mister Rogers.

I've got two and I'm all set; but if you have not owned WW tweedies
before and can afford one now, buy one when they come back. You'll
like it.

Meanwhile, I am waiting for the return of the Wooly Warm jersey (with
the button placket!) and heavier-weight trainer. A girl can dream.
Beth

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