Re: [RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-29 Thread Bob K.
Timothy,

It was in Vermont! I wish Maryland had enough contiguous dirt roads that I 
could piece together 200 miles on them!

Bob K. in Baltimore

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Re: [RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-29 Thread Timothy Hurley
Bob K, where was that trip? In MD or there abouts? 

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[RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-29 Thread Brett Callahan
Soma Cazadero come in 700x50, so they're close but not quite as big as what 
you're looking at.  They'll fit your Clem just fine and handle great on loose 
stuff and gravel.  They're also solid on pavement.  They corner well which some 
nobbies don't, and the raised center means a pretty quiet ride.   

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[RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-28 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Two big thumbs up for Thunderburts, have them on a couple bikes.  They are 
great all-rounders and you can get them with some pretty advanced puncture 
protection (light, yet effective)

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[RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-28 Thread Bill Lindsay
The WTB Riddler sounds perfecto. Go for a long ride!

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca

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Re: [RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-28 Thread Bob K.
I’ve never tried the Compass offerings, but I just went on a 200 mile gravel 
and forest road tour on 27.5x2.25 Thunder Burts, and they are 
awesome—fast-rolling, enough grip, no flats. I was running them tubeless, 
though, so the no flats part was expected.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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Re: [RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-28 Thread Jeff Lesperance
For my mixed surface riding, I've used:

1. Schwalbe Thunder Burt
2. Bruce Gordon Rock n' Road
3. Panaracer Gravel King SK

My mixed surface riding includes:

1. Urban roads of varying condition in the Washington DC Metro area
2. Smooth hard packed trails
3. Rough graveled and pocked/rutted trails

The Thunder Burt feel the nicest to me, in general, on non-paved surfaces.
I've put the most mils on the Rock n' Roads, and they're great - I'd forget
they were knobby tires if not for the hum I get from them on road surfaces.
The Gravel King's are my newest experience and they seem to be the better
tire if more than 50% of the riding might be on road surfaces. I've found
the Bruce Gordon knobs to wear a bit more on paved surfaces than the others
if I'm carrying more than just myself on the bike.

All that said, for a bit more than a year I only used Compass Barlow Pass
tires on my Sam Hillborne and All City Space Horse Disc, for all of my
riding, and only once did I feel like I wanted some type of a studded or
treaded tire, and that was when the trail I was riding on was super wet and
muddy.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD


On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 4:02 AM Collin A  wrote:

> Thanks for the input so far, hopefully this is not a too common of a
> thread that keeps popping up. In regards to the compass tires, it looks
> like they have a very similar design to the rock n road with their "pumpkin
> ridge." Any thoughts on how those 2 compare?
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Re: [RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-28 Thread Collin A
Thanks for the input so far, hopefully this is not a too common of a thread 
that keeps popping up. In regards to the compass tires, it looks like they 
have a very similar design to the rock n road with their "pumpkin ridge." 
Any thoughts on how those 2 compare?

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Re: [RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-27 Thread Dan McNamara
I’ll second Bruce on that suggestion. Not as big as the ones you have listed 
but great tires. I have a set in the garage that you could borrow to test out 
if you want. 

I am in San Rafael but head to the east bay fairly often. Probably heading over 
this weekend. PM me if you want to try and meet up. 

Dan

San Rafael

> On Jul 27, 2018, at 7:50 PM, "br...@bgcycles.com"  wrote:
> 
> You might want to try the Rock n’ Road tires. I make them in 650b x 43 both 
> Skinwall and Blackwall.  That is what they are made for - 
> https://brucegordoncycles.bigcartel.com 
> Regards,
> Bruce Gordon
> 
> 
>> On Jul 27, 2018, at 6:14 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Collin, no matter what you end up deciding, you owe it to yourself to start 
>> with the widest Compas tires that fit (Switchback Hill for 650b), as Compass 
>> is the benchmark for plush and smooth and fast ride. If you end up needing 
>> more flat protection due to thorns, try adding Orange sealant to your tubes. 
>> If you get flats from glass regularly, you may need different tires, but 
>> experience on that seems to vary here. As you then try different tires, you 
>> will have a solid benchmark of comfort and speed against which to compare 
>> them.
>> 
>> I’ve ridden the Barlow Pass (700 x 38, road), Snoqualmie (700 x 44 road), 
>> and Steilacoom (700 x 38 knobbie) on all kinds of terrain and the road tires 
>> woudl easily handle what you describe. Their only terrain downside is 
>> rutted/technical loose stuff and snow/mud, and the knobbie handles those 
>> with exellence. I ride 1/3 paved, 1/3 dirt, 1/3 trail, including a fair bit 
>> of more technical.
>> 
>> WIth abandon,
>> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-27 Thread br...@bgcycles.com
You might want to try the Rock n’ Road tires. I make them in 650b x 43 both 
Skinwall and Blackwall.  That is what they are made for - 
https://brucegordoncycles.bigcartel.com 
Regards,
Bruce Gordon

 
> On Jul 27, 2018, at 6:14 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Collin, no matter what you end up deciding, you owe it to yourself to start 
> with the widest Compas tires that fit (Switchback Hill for 650b), as Compass 
> is the benchmark for plush and smooth and fast ride. If you end up needing 
> more flat protection due to thorns, try adding Orange sealant to your tubes. 
> If you get flats from glass regularly, you may need different tires, but 
> experience on that seems to vary here. As you then try different tires, you 
> will have a solid benchmark of comfort and speed against which to compare 
> them.
> 
> I’ve ridden the Barlow Pass (700 x 38, road), Snoqualmie (700 x 44 road), and 
> Steilacoom (700 x 38 knobbie) on all kinds of terrain and the road tires 
> woudl easily handle what you describe. Their only terrain downside is 
> rutted/technical loose stuff and snow/mud, and the knobbie handles those with 
> exellence. I ride 1/3 paved, 1/3 dirt, 1/3 trail, including a fair bit of 
> more technical.
> 
> WIth abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-27 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
I meant to add that for my Hunqapillar I prefer the Thunderburt LiteSkin 2.1” 
(2.25 is great if they fit and you want/need the width) for increased grip on 
trails. Why LiteSkin? Because they are the closest thing to Compass tires for 
plushness.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-27 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Collin, no matter what you end up deciding, you owe it to yourself to start 
with the widest Compas tires that fit (Switchback Hill for 650b), as Compass is 
the benchmark for plush and smooth and fast ride. If you end up needing more 
flat protection due to thorns, try adding Orange sealant to your tubes. If you 
get flats from glass regularly, you may need different tires, but experience on 
that seems to vary here. As you then try different tires, you will have a solid 
benchmark of comfort and speed against which to compare them.

I’ve ridden the Barlow Pass (700 x 38, road), Snoqualmie (700 x 44 road), and 
Steilacoom (700 x 38 knobbie) on all kinds of terrain and the road tires woudl 
easily handle what you describe. Their only terrain downside is 
rutted/technical loose stuff and snow/mud, and the knobbie handles those with 
exellence. I ride 1/3 paved, 1/3 dirt, 1/3 trail, including a fair bit of more 
technical.

WIth abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Recommended Mixed Surface Tires for Not-Too-Technical Riding?

2018-07-27 Thread Collin A
Howdy all,

I'm currently looking at getting a new pair of mixed surface tires for my 
Clem H for general trail riding/offroad touring that don't feel excessively 
slow and boat-like when I am on the pavement on the way to the trailhead 
(sometimes 30 miles away). Currently I have some WTB riddlers and Conti 
x-kings that are wide and way too knobby for the riding where I live in 
Oakland. I started looking and was immediately overwhelmed by the options 
that are out there and all of the marketing crap saying that this one pair 
of tires will solve all of my bike riding woes. Therefore, I decided to 
pull from the collective wisdom/experience of those in this group to see 
what you guys ride in your area.

If you can, please reply with what general type of terrain you ride 
(gravel, singletrack, sand, mud, etc), tire type and wheel size, and 
frequencies of tire damage! Ultimately, I want to just know what tires you 
folks ride on and if are generally satisfied with them.

So far I'm looking at the following for 27.5/650b (max clearance of 2.4"):
Schwalbe Thunder Burt 2.25"
Conti RaceKing Protection 2.2"
Schwalbe G-one all-round 2.25"
Schwalbe G-one speed 2.35"
Maxxis Crossmark II 2.25"

Thanks in advance!
Collin A

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