Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
My source was the Velocity USA web site so they need to update the product offerings :) On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: not true, The A23 is made in the 584 rim size. Longleaf has them as well as Boulder. Both were special orders but they are available to buy right now. I have a set that Anthony built with a SP dynohub and hi flange Grand Bois rear hub. ~mike On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:32:13 PM UTC-8, Fullylugged wrote: The Pari Moto also does well on the Aerohead which is narrower at 20 wide than the Synergy and deeper. The A23 is the same width (23) as Synergy and a bit deeper. The A23 is not offered in a 584 rim size though so Pari Motos won't go on it. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.comwrote: I have that combo (A23 rim/PariMoto tire) on my Stag and they're fine. Mounted up snug but not unreasonably so, run true, ride nice. No drama or worries. Steve On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.comwrote: The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
I don't think the A23 is an official offering that they (Velocity) are planning to stock. Longleaf (and now Boulder, evidently) special ordered a batch. I assume there's a minimum number needed to make that happen. FWIW, I also have some more recent Synergy rims that are very true to size and nicely made. Came from the U.S. plant, though whether that's why they're better or it's just that Velocity retooled in response to undersized rim complaints is an open question... Steve On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.comwrote: My source was the Velocity USA web site so they need to update the product offerings :) On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: not true, The A23 is made in the 584 rim size. Longleaf has them as well as Boulder. Both were special orders but they are available to buy right now. I have a set that Anthony built with a SP dynohub and hi flange Grand Bois rear hub. ~mike On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:32:13 PM UTC-8, Fullylugged wrote: The Pari Moto also does well on the Aerohead which is narrower at 20 wide than the Synergy and deeper. The A23 is the same width (23) as Synergy and a bit deeper. The A23 is not offered in a 584 rim size though so Pari Motos won't go on it. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.comwrote: I have that combo (A23 rim/PariMoto tire) on my Stag and they're fine. Mounted up snug but not unreasonably so, run true, ride nice. No drama or worries. Steve On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.comwrote: The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
I have that combo (A23 rim/PariMoto tire) on my Stag and they're fine. Mounted up snug but not unreasonably so, run true, ride nice. No drama or worries. Steve On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
If you already own the Synergy and don't plan on rebuilding on another rim, what is the best strategy for working around the mounting limitations. I have seen the bit about careful mounting, but that's not a great option if you are on a brevet and the clock is ticking. I also saw someone say to put more layers of rim tape, so the well is not so deep. Is there a particular tire that works well with the 650b Synergy without having to go to either of these steps? On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
Jim My best workaround for getting good tire mounting on the Synergy 650B rim without building up the rim tape is to use wire bead tires. I have 4 sets of 650B Synergy wheels in my stable. 3 of those bikes are now shod with wire bead tires (Fatty Rumpkin/Force Field Fatty Rumpkin/Col de la Vie), and they all mounted up nicely with no unusual work. The fourth bike I commonly use on brevets and refuse to run wire bead tires on it, so I went to the effort of building up the rim tape (I used gaffer tape to do the job) and put inthe time necessary to get the tires suitably straight. That bike (an A Homer Hilsen) is currently running Lierres, but I also run it with Pari Motos, B-Lines, New Express and Hetres from time to time. All need similar amounts of work. Fixing a flat on brevet I just let them go where they want to go and accept it. Having put in the work on the rim tape side, it's never terrible, but I've only had three flats on brevets. All three were at night or in the rain or both, of course, so I was in no mood to be picky in any of the three situations. :-) On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:55:02 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: If you already own the Synergy and don't plan on rebuilding on another rim, what is the best strategy for working around the mounting limitations. I have seen the bit about careful mounting, but that's not a great option if you are on a brevet and the clock is ticking. I also saw someone say to put more layers of rim tape, so the well is not so deep. Is there a particular tire that works well with the 650b Synergy without having to go to either of these steps? On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
The Pari Moto also does well on the Aerohead which is narrower at 20 wide than the Synergy and deeper. The A23 is the same width (23) as Synergy and a bit deeper. The A23 is not offered in a 584 rim size though so Pari Motos won't go on it. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: I have that combo (A23 rim/PariMoto tire) on my Stag and they're fine. Mounted up snug but not unreasonably so, run true, ride nice. No drama or worries. Steve On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.comwrote: The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
not true, The A23 is made in the 584 rim size. Longleaf has them as well as Boulder. Both were special orders but they are available to buy right now. I have a set that Anthony built with a SP dynohub and hi flange Grand Bois rear hub. ~mike On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:32:13 PM UTC-8, Fullylugged wrote: The Pari Moto also does well on the Aerohead which is narrower at 20 wide than the Synergy and deeper. The A23 is the same width (23) as Synergy and a bit deeper. The A23 is not offered in a 584 rim size though so Pari Motos won't go on it. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I have that combo (A23 rim/PariMoto tire) on my Stag and they're fine. Mounted up snug but not unreasonably so, run true, ride nice. No drama or worries. Steve On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
I have A23 700C rims, they have been out for a while. Maybe the Herse ones are proprietary in some way? As for the regular A23 rims, I love them. Light, strong, wide, easy to build, hold a tire, spin in a circle, what's not to like? http://www.flickr.com/photos/64942209@N00/8847972692 On 11/3/13, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
the a23 extrusion has been out there for a long time in 700. anthony at longleaf bicycles in new england was the first to pony up the money for a run of 650b a23 rims. they work great, and like all tubeless ready rims, tires fit great on them. the 'new' part with boulder is they are now offering the a23 off-center in 650b, in addition to the regular extrusion for fronts. they also had them polished. its a very good rim. i ran the symmetric ones from longleaf the possible negatives of the a23 extrusion in my mind are: 1. the brake track is not very tall, not as tall as the p23 or 2. the brake track sidewalls are not parallel. they have a slight v shape, ideal for centerpulls and caliper brakes, sub optimal for cantilevers, 3. a modernish look, not as classic as a boxier section -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
