Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
That fact was what convinced me to use Pitlocks in addition to an Abus mini-U. I figured it would be difficult to get the wheels off and more difficult to sell a bike that had a locked wheel set. On Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 3:42:49 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote: > > I remember when a long lock thread came up earlier, someone pointed out > that, with a cordless electric cut off grinder, the difference between a > cheap lock and a good lock was the difference between 30 seconds to cut > through the lock vs. 60 seconds. > > Eric > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 3:06 PM Cinza > > wrote: > >> I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for >> thieves as of late. >> What locks do you like and why? >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
I remember when a long lock thread came up earlier, someone pointed out that, with a cordless electric cut off grinder, the difference between a cheap lock and a good lock was the difference between 30 seconds to cut through the lock vs. 60 seconds. Eric On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 3:06 PM Cinza wrote: > I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for thieves > as of late. > What locks do you like and why? > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
I recently put bbs into my seatpost and stem binder bolts' heads after reading this suggestion here. I used small dabs of Shoe Goo, fearing wax would look messy and be harder to control. (This is the 2003 Riv, which I want to look nice.) The results do look rather nice. It will require a bit more work to remove the bbs, but the amount of Shoo Goe is small, so not horribly difficult. On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 1:12 PM Friend wrote: > One more thing. Put ball bearings in all your allen wrench bolts. > Smear them in there with wax. They are hard to get out without melting the > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
I use Abus Bordo or Abus San Francisco U-Lock. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
Along the lines of discussion on bike theft and prevention has anyone found an electronic tracker product that you are using in case the bike is stolen? With the abundance of bikes / scooters for rent the companies supplying these must have some moderately priced tracker to keep tabs on them and show customers where to find them. Paul in Dallas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
The Portland problem is so real, and the Spring Water Corridor can be super sketchy. I almost got jumped there once. My brother and I parked our bikes by the MODA Center for a few hours one evening. We knew it was sketchy. We brought every lock we had and had our wheels, frames, seats, all secure to eacht others bike and to the rack. We come back to find my brother grips were stolen... The biggest suggestion I have for bike security is, unfortunately, don't lock up your rivendel on the sidewalk. That's why I am keeping my 1999 spray painted Trek 520. One more thing. Put ball bearings in all your allen wrench bolts. Smear them in there with wax. They are hard to get out without melting the wax. On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 12:15:56 PM UTC-4, John McBurney wrote: > > Portland has had a real problem with bike theft. About the best you can do > is to make your bike more inconvenient to steal than the next guys. > > Suggestions: > > 1. Get the best lock you can and always take it with you. I like the Abus > Bordo Granit plus 9500 because it’s very strong and since it folds up and > goes in a carrier it’s always with me. Plus heaven forbid I need it, it’s a > close quarter self defense weapon. On the Springwater trail there were > stories of cyclists being forced off their bikes and “bike jacked” > especially women cyclists. > > 2. Never leave your bike outside at night, locked or not. With a battery > powered angle grinder a thief can cut any lock or even most staples pretty > quickly and be off with your bike. If people are around they are unlikely > to be so bold. > > 3. If you keep your bike in a garage or shed install an anchor and lock > it up there as well. Sheds and garages are frequent targets of bike thieves > and are soft targets. > > I commute by bike daily. When we lived in Portland I was able to park in a > bike corral (which had actually been robbed when someone got the > combination) but I got called up for jury duty which meant parking on the > sidewalk in an area with a lot of dodgy characters. > > So I used an Abus U lock on the front wheel and triangle, my Abus Bordo > 9500 on the rear wheel > and triangle and an Abus Bordo 6000 and cable for my seat. > > But the most important thing was I parked next to the space reserved for > motorcycle cops! > > John > > > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:44 AM Patrick Moore > wrote: > >> Erl: I'll happily photograph the chain lock, padlock, and rubber sheath, >> but it will have to wait until I next ride to Sprout's, and I will have to >> remember to do so. >> >> Basically, it's just heavy thick towing chain, ~3 feet, slipped into a >> section of 2" mtb tube, and locked with one of these: >> >> [image: image.png] >> >> Best, Patrick >> >> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 4:43 PM WETH > >> wrote: >> >>> Patrick, >>> I have created an image in my mind of Towing chain securing your bike at >>> Sprouts, but I would love a photo that also captures the tube covering the >>> chain. >>> Thanks, >>> Erl >>> Kensington, MD >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And >> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the >> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* >> --- J.R.R. Tolkien >> --- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching >> Other professional writing services >> Expensive! But good. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send
Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
The old barrel key locks are easily defeated with the barrel of a Bic pen. Fortunately, you don't see the pens that were ideally suited for that much anymore & really who even uses pens very much nowadays anyway? So in reality these locks are probably safer than they were 20 years ago. I believe a multipronged approach to locking is best. I use the biggest beefyest lock I can conjure at work and leave it permanently locked to the rack. For day to day errands I use either a middle weight Kryptonite chain or the Abus folding link thingy. Those are both middle security locks & will deter all but the "serious" bike thief. For my bikes that are not "thief bait" or if I am just popping in & out of somewhere. I'll sometimes use a coiling cable lock (although these just keep someone from jumping on the bike & riding off & are easily defeated with bolt cutters (which is how I lost my Rosco)) or a little Odessey light weight U lock I recently got. Horses for the courses as they say. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
Patrick, I have created an image in my mind of Towing chain securing your bike at Sprouts, but I would love a photo that also captures the tube covering the chain. Thanks, Erl Kensington, MD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
I like the Abus Bordo Granit folding locks myself. On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 4:37 PM David Bivins wrote: > Almost the same as Shoji - pitlocks on wheels and seat post - but with a > black and yellow "Fuhgeddaboutit" Kryptonite lock. Here in NYC it can be a > challenge to find something small enough to work with the frame or back > wheel and the Krypto Mini. I also put a cover over the saddle. > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 4:17 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > >> I made a lock from about 3' of towing chain from the hardware store, held >> by an Abus padlock. I leave this attached to the bike rack at a local >> Sprout's some 5-6 miles away. It's a reasonably cheap and I suspect and >> certainly hope reasonably secure system. >> >> When the clerk cut my length of chain, he started with an angle grinder >> and finished up with a hacksaw; at any rate, a bolt cutter would not work, >> and using the 2 cutting tools took him 10 or 15 minutes to get through a >> single link. >> >> Does anyone know anything about towing chain? Googling calls up >> scuttlebutt that it's quite hard to cut. But I haven't heard of anyone >> else, at least on my lists, using this stuff. >> >> I cover it with a section of old MTB tube. >> >> On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:06 PM Cinza wrote: >> >>> I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for >>> thieves as of late. >>> What locks do you like and why? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And >> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the >> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* >> --- J.R.R. Tolkien >> --- >> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews >> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching >> Other professional writing services >> Expensive! But good. >> http://www.resumespecialties.com/ >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
Almost the same as Shoji - pitlocks on wheels and seat post - but with a black and yellow "Fuhgeddaboutit" Kryptonite lock. Here in NYC it can be a challenge to find something small enough to work with the frame or back wheel and the Krypto Mini. I also put a cover over the saddle. On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 4:17 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > I made a lock from about 3' of towing chain from the hardware store, held > by an Abus padlock. I leave this attached to the bike rack at a local > Sprout's some 5-6 miles away. It's a reasonably cheap and I suspect and > certainly hope reasonably secure system. > > When the clerk cut my length of chain, he started with an angle grinder > and finished up with a hacksaw; at any rate, a bolt cutter would not work, > and using the 2 cutting tools took him 10 or 15 minutes to get through a > single link. > > Does anyone know anything about towing chain? Googling calls up > scuttlebutt that it's quite hard to cut. But I haven't heard of anyone > else, at least on my lists, using this stuff. > > I cover it with a section of old MTB tube. > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:06 PM Cinza wrote: > >> I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for >> thieves as of late. >> What locks do you like and why? >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > > > > > ** > > > > > > *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And > though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the > hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* > --- J.R.R. Tolkien > --- > Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews > By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching > Other professional writing services > Expensive! But good. > http://www.resumespecialties.com/ > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
I made a lock from about 3' of towing chain from the hardware store, held by an Abus padlock. I leave this attached to the bike rack at a local Sprout's some 5-6 miles away. It's a reasonably cheap and I suspect and certainly hope reasonably secure system. When the clerk cut my length of chain, he started with an angle grinder and finished up with a hacksaw; at any rate, a bolt cutter would not work, and using the 2 cutting tools took him 10 or 15 minutes to get through a single link. Does anyone know anything about towing chain? Googling calls up scuttlebutt that it's quite hard to cut. But I haven't heard of anyone else, at least on my lists, using this stuff. I cover it with a section of old MTB tube. On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 1:06 PM Cinza wrote: > I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for thieves > as of late. > What locks do you like and why? > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- ** *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.* --- J.R.R. Tolkien --- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching Other professional writing services Expensive! But good. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] What high security locks are people locking their bikes with?
I just found out the Kryptonite lock with a barrel key is easy for thieves as of late. What locks do you like and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
