Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[Robert Barr]

Deacon Patrick  - there are degrees of confusion. When I fail to recognize
that my sheep-wearing friend would never be looking at a pile hat I need to
slow down a wee bit. Also known as the challenge of taking a look at the
list while working on something else. My best to both Patricks. Bob

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> No worries, Bob. I do that sometimes too. Sardonic grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick of the highlands who wears a sheep on his head when it gets really
> cold
>
> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 8:34:18 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:
>>
>> Patrick, I confused my Patricks
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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[Deacon Patrick]

No worries, Bob. I do that sometimes too. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick of the highlands who wears a sheep on his head when it gets really 
cold

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 8:34:18 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:
>
> Patrick, I confused my Patricks
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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[Robert Barr]

Patrick, I confused my Patricks as the email string went on -  but the
recommendation stands. Bob

On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:31 PM, Robert Barr  wrote:

> Deacon - take a look at this: http://www.patagonia.
> com/product/shelled-synchilla-duckbill-cap/22240.html?dwvar_
> 22240_color=INDG=mens-hats-accessories-hats#tile-20==1=36
>   I have one that I wear under a hood when things get cold, wet, and windy.
> For dryer colder conditions I go with the set I mentioned in an earlier
> note. Bob
>
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I've looked at these before, and I have a few worries:
>>
>> Do they stay on securely? I have small ears with lobes attached
>> (securely) to skull.
>>
>> Don't you end up losing one of the pair?
>>
>> This morning it was 25*F when I left the house, and, while I should have
>> worn a balaclava, instead, I used one of the faux Peruvian caps. This
>> didn't keep my upper cheeks warm, but it sure did keep my ears warm.
>>
>> I think that perhaps this might do the same trick while looking less
>> Fredly:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Research-83155-Peruvian-Hat/dp/B003P8QMGK
>>
>> Alas, if it only had a wee brim and Molteni graphics.
>>
>> This looks possible:
>>
>> http://www.bicycling.com/product/bontrager-classique-thermal-cycling-cap
>>
>> But no winter hat I've used so far, over the years, stays put unless I
>> somehow tie it under the chin -- I've got big hair.
>>
>> The little brim is a big plus. It helps keep wind as well as sun from the
>> eyes, and at night it keeps you from being blinded by oncoming auto
>> headlights.
>>
>> Does anyone know of an earflap cap like the Outdoor Research one -- flaps
>> tie under the chin -- *with* a brim?
>>
>> If not, I'm tempted to try a Bontrager and add elastic.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 6:57 AM, 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, I have used Ear Bags for years for rides below 40F. Much below
>>> 32 I add a thin balaclava.
>>> http://sprigs.com/earbags/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAhNnCBRCqkP6bvOjz_Iw
>>> BEiQAMn_TMWvzt87OR2ayRj7-QT4mhgmprIlRUQumpi8RCTWJZUgaAn9I8P8HAQ
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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[Robert Barr]

Deacon - take a look at this:
http://www.patagonia.com/product/shelled-synchilla-duckbill-cap/22240.html?dwvar_22240_color=INDG=mens-hats-accessories-hats#tile-20==1=36
I have one that I wear under a hood when things get cold, wet, and
windy. For dryer colder conditions I go with the set I mentioned in an
earlier note. Bob

On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Thanks. I've looked at these before, and I have a few worries:
>
> Do they stay on securely? I have small ears with lobes attached (securely)
> to skull.
>
> Don't you end up losing one of the pair?
>
> This morning it was 25*F when I left the house, and, while I should have
> worn a balaclava, instead, I used one of the faux Peruvian caps. This
> didn't keep my upper cheeks warm, but it sure did keep my ears warm.
>
> I think that perhaps this might do the same trick while looking less
> Fredly:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Research-83155-Peruvian-Hat/dp/B003P8QMGK
>
> Alas, if it only had a wee brim and Molteni graphics.
>
> This looks possible:
>
> http://www.bicycling.com/product/bontrager-classique-thermal-cycling-cap
>
> But no winter hat I've used so far, over the years, stays put unless I
> somehow tie it under the chin -- I've got big hair.
>
> The little brim is a big plus. It helps keep wind as well as sun from the
> eyes, and at night it keeps you from being blinded by oncoming auto
> headlights.
>
> Does anyone know of an earflap cap like the Outdoor Research one -- flaps
> tie under the chin -- *with* a brim?
>
> If not, I'm tempted to try a Bontrager and add elastic.
>
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 6:57 AM, 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Patrick, I have used Ear Bags for years for rides below 40F. Much below
>> 32 I add a thin balaclava.
>> http://sprigs.com/earbags/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAhNnCBRCqkP6bvOjz_Iw
>> BEiQAMn_TMWvzt87OR2ayRj7-QT4mhgmprIlRUQumpi8RCTWJZUgaAn9I8P8HAQ
>>
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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks. I've looked at these before, and I have a few worries:

Do they stay on securely? I have small ears with lobes attached (securely)
to skull.

Don't you end up losing one of the pair?

This morning it was 25*F when I left the house, and, while I should have
worn a balaclava, instead, I used one of the faux Peruvian caps. This
didn't keep my upper cheeks warm, but it sure did keep my ears warm.

I think that perhaps this might do the same trick while looking less Fredly:

https://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Research-83155-Peruvian-Hat/dp/B003P8QMGK

Alas, if it only had a wee brim and Molteni graphics.

This looks possible:

http://www.bicycling.com/product/bontrager-classique-thermal-cycling-cap

But no winter hat I've used so far, over the years, stays put unless I
somehow tie it under the chin -- I've got big hair.

The little brim is a big plus. It helps keep wind as well as sun from the
eyes, and at night it keeps you from being blinded by oncoming auto
headlights.

Does anyone know of an earflap cap like the Outdoor Research one -- flaps
tie under the chin -- *with* a brim?

If not, I'm tempted to try a Bontrager and add elastic.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 6:57 AM, 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Patrick, I have used Ear Bags for years for rides below 40F. Much below 32
> I add a thin balaclava.
> http://sprigs.com/earbags/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAhNnCBRCqkP6bvOjz_
> IwBEiQAMn_TMWvzt87OR2ayRj7-QT4mhgmprIlRUQumpi8RCTWJZUgaAn9I8P8HAQ
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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[Deacon Patrick]

You wear baked honey, nuts, spices, and phyllo dough on your head? That's a 
unique approach to staying warm and blocking wind! Not to mention mid-ride 
fueling needs. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick, who takes a balaclava in his panniers "just in case"

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 8:09:58 AM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> Baklava and cycling helmet. Helmet blocks wind.

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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[lum gim fong]

Baklava and cycling helmet. Helmet blocks wind.

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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Patrick, I have used Ear Bags for years for rides below 40F. Much below 32 I 
add a thin balaclava.
http://sprigs.com/earbags/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAhNnCBRCqkP6bvOjz_IwBEiQAMn_TMWvzt87OR2ayRj7-QT4mhgmprIlRUQumpi8RCTWJZUgaAn9I8P8HAQ

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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[Patrick Moore]

I know, I know, I'm a wimp, I admit it.

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 3:00 PM, ascpgh  wrote:

> Non-Fredly is to frostbite, suffer and not speak of it?
>
> Put on your wool and review Rules #5, and 9. They may be the minority in
> which appearance (besides yourself out in the wet, cold, forbidding wild)
> is not the primary objective.
>
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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[Patrick Moore]

That might just do it; wasn't aware of it -- thanks. However, I will look
further before buying (possum guilt trip notwithstanding -- yes, I know
it's a joke) because even with this hat I'd need a chin strap, as I do on
the Walz. And I don't really like balaclavas, unless the temp is guaranteed
to stay below the 20s.

But this is definitely on the very short list.

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Aren't I always showing off something or other? Grin.
>
> Ears at 40˚F to 20˚F: I wear my Riv. possum wool "Radar O'Reilly" from
> M*A*S*H* hat. https://www.rivbike.com/products/mcdonald-brim-beanie. Only
> issue is at 20˚F on fast descents or strong headwinds in too much
> combination there is no wind blockage. That's when I swap out to a warmer
> hat, as windchill puts it near zero.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 2:30:23 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> -5 and windy: aww, yer just showing off now.
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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[ascpgh]

Non-Fredly is to frostbite, suffer and not speak of it? 

Put on your wool and review Rules #5, and 9. They may be the minority in 
which appearance (besides yourself out in the wet, cold, forbidding wild) 
is not the primary objective. 

Andy Cheatham 
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 4:30:23 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> -5 and windy: aww, yer just showing off now.
>
> Seriously, nice report. I suppose with that beard you don't ever need a 
> balaclava. I wish I'd kept my shearling, Soviet apparatchik hat that I 
> bought for Quebec city; nah, it would be too warm for ABQ. In fact, I gave 
> it to my bro in law who until last summer lived in your area.
>
> Question for all: for temps between, say, 40*F and 20*F, what is best for 
> ears? I have a couple of faux Peruvian Indian hats with fat flaps that tie 
> down under my chin, but is there anything less Fredly looking?
>
> One of my 2017 projects is to try a fishnet top.
>
> Patrick "Velominati compliant" Moore
>
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Deacon Patrick  > wrote:
>
>> Minus five, with the winter clothing details finally coming together in 
>> the little details. What a blast!
>> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/winter-ramble
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
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>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[Deacon Patrick]

Aren't I always showing off something or other? Grin. 

Ears at 40˚F to 20˚F: I wear my Riv. possum wool "Radar O'Reilly" from 
M*A*S*H* hat. https://www.rivbike.com/products/mcdonald-brim-beanie. Only 
issue is at 20˚F on fast descents or strong headwinds in too much 
combination there is no wind blockage. That's when I swap out to a warmer 
hat, as windchill puts it near zero.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, December 17, 2016 at 2:30:23 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> -5 and windy: aww, yer just showing off now.
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Re: [RBW] Winter Ramble

[Patrick Moore]

-5 and windy: aww, yer just showing off now.

Seriously, nice report. I suppose with that beard you don't ever need a
balaclava. I wish I'd kept my shearling, Soviet apparatchik hat that I
bought for Quebec city; nah, it would be too warm for ABQ. In fact, I gave
it to my bro in law who until last summer lived in your area.

Question for all: for temps between, say, 40*F and 20*F, what is best for
ears? I have a couple of faux Peruvian Indian hats with fat flaps that tie
down under my chin, but is there anything less Fredly looking?

One of my 2017 projects is to try a fishnet top.

Patrick "Velominati compliant" Moore

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Minus five, with the winter clothing details finally coming together in
> the little details. What a blast!
> http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/winter-ramble
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> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Winter Ramble

[Deacon Patrick]

Minus five, with the winter clothing details finally coming together in the 
little details. What a blast!
http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/winter-ramble

With abandon,
Patrick

www.OurHolyConception.org
www.MindYourHeadCoop.org


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