Re: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue

2010-10-12 Thread Anne Paulson
Call them up and ask the inseam measurement.

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:51 PM, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote:
 I wish somebody here would buy a pair and report back... I need to
 know if they run long or short.



 On Oct 3, 9:52 pm, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote:
 One of the local bike shops here in Portland does their own set of
 pants. They tweeted recently they are getting close to reorder time,
 which probably means they are close to picked-over on sizes, but if
 they are in your price range you might want to check them out. They
 are a very good shop, very BOB-ish, and I trust when they do something
 they do it right.

 http://clevercycles.com/2010/04/24/sshhh-introducing-belmont-stealth-...

 Having said that, I didn't spring for a pair myself and can't
 personally attest to their quality. I can say Todd, one of the owners,
 has a pair on every time I see him and they are indeed very stealthy.
 There is a marked taper to the leg. If you look for it it is
 noticeable and you know exactly which pair of pants he's wearing. I
 suspect he has a couple pairs. :-)

 -Allan

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Re: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue

2010-10-11 Thread PATRICK MOORE
FWIW, my method is simply to cut and add velcro; I leave the pockets
on -- they are very useful, especially in winter when one doesn't have
access to rear jersey pockets. I favor high rise, pleated, full cut
dress trousers for comfort when in the hoods or hooks, of tightly
woven gabardine or plain weave wool for wear; so far, except for
shininess and saddle smudging, mine show little wear after several
seasons. I cut mine long, plus 8, hem and add long velcro because I
like them snugged up tight under the knee with a lot of bag.

FWIW, mine come out of the washer, Kookabura and delicates wash, hang
dry, looking decent.

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:
 I posted a Flickr set on how to make your own cycling conversion
 shorts:

 http://tinyurl.com/27s7jbv

 These will match nicely with my Quickbeam.

 Best,
 Lee



 On Oct 5, 4:05 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lee, that is DIY-lightful.  Nice work.

 Cycling Re-cons.  Brilliant!

 On Oct 5, 4:01 pm, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:

  This may seem like a hassle, but it really isn't too much trouble,
  depending on where you live, and can be quite cheap: I'll make a run
  through the local thrift/Goodwill stores looking for decent pants. I
  try to find merino wool, but some of the funkier fabrics work quite
  well. Then, I have the pants converted into shorts or knickers via
  hemming and pegging.


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Re: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue

2010-10-11 Thread james black
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:21, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just saw theses from Jitensha  very pricey though.
 http://www.jitensha.com/eng/knickers.html
 But, if they fit and function well  . that's priceless.

I like those!

My favorite riding trousers are a pair of woolen thrift store
Polo-brand golf trousers. I cut the bottoms off and relocated the
adjusty buckles at the waistband to the bottom of the leg. Here in
Esteban's photo I was wearing them while adventuring in the Santa
Monicas with the Riv Bunch last year:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3894982599/sizes/o/in/photostream/

I find little need for anything shorter or lighter, as I don't get
overheated wearing these knickers even on hot days. Wool jerseys
and/or long sleeves, on the other hand, do get me feeling quite warm.

I find that a thick fabric works best for me, saddle comfort-wise. I
like to ride in boxer shorts and on leather saddles, and thin fabrics
can bunch up under my sit bones and chafe, but a thick fabric like
reasonably thick wool does not bunch up. I'm always on the lookout at
thrift stores, and I have a few pairs of trousers waiting for me to
get out the sewing machine.

James Black
Los Angeles, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue

2010-10-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Not mine; my home made knickers get heavy use during the cold months
and, so far, except for some shininess there is no sign of wear after
three seasons, for two of them.

I use top quality wool trousers for conversion.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
 I find wool to have inadequate abrasion resistance for shorts, tights and
 trousers for cycling.  They wear through in embarrassing places quickly
 (sometimes within 2-3 rides).

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Re: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue

2010-10-05 Thread Fai Mao
This is atually a topic I've thought about at times.
I have some semi-casual pants that I can just barely get away with at work
that have a zipper around the mid thigh. I can remove them lower leg and get
shorts. The only draw back at work is that they have cargo pockets which
look kind of dress down. I generally just wear skin shorts and in cooler
weather put leg warmers on over the shorts. I then change in the closet in
my office.
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:58 AM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Holy cow just wear your denim pants. I wear my Key brand logger pants
 with suspenders for all my cold weather riding because its what I wear
 anyway. Yea they are cotton but it hasn't hurt me for rides up to 25
 miles which is as far as my commute is. I rode with them in 78 degree
 weather last Thursday and it wasn't unbearable. In cooler temperatures
 I don't sweat as bad and they work fine. For lighter rain you just get
 wet and dry out later. The fit on my jeans is trim in the ankles but I
 usually just tuck the excess into my sock or wear a reflective ankle
 gizmo that Riv sells. I've been wanting a chain guard but am too lazy
 to order one at the moment. Plain old cotton sweat pants work good too
 if you wear the suspenders to keep them from bunching up but they look
 kind of too casual off the bike and I won't wear them at work
 so..

 On Oct 3, 6:34 pm, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote:
  Every year when it starts to get cold, I undertake a futile search for
  cycling pants that don't look like something from the ballet or the
  circus.  I mean pants, not lycra tights.  And not rain pants, which
  tend to be way too baggy and - if they're Rivendll - too orange.  I
  want nylon pants that block the wind but are trim enough so they don't
  flutter in the wind, and will stay out of the way of the chain,
  preferablly with some sort of cinch around the ankle.  I need pockets
  too.
 
  Wool would be great, but I know that's not going to happen.
 
  I'd buy the MUSA pants, but I can't do the blue crotch.  Just too
  conspicuous. Ooooh, are those bicycling pants? Where did you get
  them?
 
  It's hard to Google on this without getting 50 pages of black spandex
  tights.
 
  Does anyone else makes something just like the MUSA pants, but without
  the 2-tone color scheme?

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RE: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue

2010-10-05 Thread Frederick, Steve
Just unzip the ankle zipper a bit when you get there and instant bell bottoms!

Steve

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Subject: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue


I've used the Hind Munich tapered running pant a bunch too. I find
them a little too tapered for rides to the pub or coffee shop. Great
for hiking/xc sking etc though.

~Mike~

On Oct 4, 10:44 am, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu
wrote:
 I've had good luck with tapered running pants from the local runners shop 
 (Playmakers in Okemos)  I think the ones I bought were Hind, brand.

 I also like Zoic's bamboo-material knickers, Reign I think is the model name. 
  Nice construction and details, very comfortable and well made.  (run tight 
 in the waist, tho)

 Steve



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 Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 9:35 PM
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 Subject: [RBW] perennial pants issue

 Every year when it starts to get cold, I undertake a futile search for
 cycling pants that don't look like something from the ballet or the
 circus.  I mean pants, not lycra tights.  And not rain pants, which
 tend to be way too baggy and - if they're Rivendll - too orange.  I
 want nylon pants that block the wind but are trim enough so they don't
 flutter in the wind, and will stay out of the way of the chain,
 preferablly with some sort of cinch around the ankle.  I need pockets
 too.

 Wool would be great, but I know that's not going to happen.

 I'd buy the MUSA pants, but I can't do the blue crotch.  Just too
 conspicuous. Ooooh, are those bicycling pants? Where did you get
 them?

 It's hard to Google on this without getting 50 pages of black spandex
 tights.

 Does anyone else makes something just like the MUSA pants, but without
 the 2-tone color scheme?

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RE: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue

2010-10-05 Thread Frederick, Steve
They seem to be in stock:

http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/wool-semi-tights/22-271

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Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 3:05 PM
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Subject: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue


I see it's time for the Perennial Plea:

BRING BACK THE WOOLY WARM PANTS!!

or at least something similar.  A pant made in merino wool a little
looser than the Ralphas. - no dressy garmet pockets or details though.
Maybe zippered pockets.  Unfortunately VERY expensive for something
you'll wear the seat out of - but long lasting otherwise.

OK - sorry, you're right I am whining.

Phil B

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Re: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue

2010-10-05 Thread Anne Paulson
Those wool semi tights are long underwear. For long underwear, they're
fine, but in no sense are they pants.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Frederick, Steve
frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote:
 They seem to be in stock:

 http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/wool-semi-tights/22-271



 I see it's time for the Perennial Plea:

 BRING BACK THE WOOLY WARM PANTS!!


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Re: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue

2010-10-05 Thread Bruce
I wear the wool semi tights as winter tights and they are fine. Especially 
under a pair of shorts. Joneswares makes (in the USa btw) very good stuff, and 
they are great people to work with. I wear their shorts and jerseys all year 
round (with/without tights as you might expect)





From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com
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Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 5:02:49 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue

Mike Flanigan mentions a company called JonesWare on his blog today.

These trail pants look somewhat normal:

http://www.joneswares.com/item/Men_s_Trek_Trail_Pants/306/c62

On Oct 5, 4:54 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
 Those wool semi tights are long underwear. For long underwear, they're
 fine, but in no sense are they pants.




  

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Re: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue

2010-10-05 Thread Bruce
Joneswares absolutely do not wear like this. Ibex duos don't either (but they 
are not wool on the high wear areas). Can't speak to other brands.  






From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net
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Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 7:54:20 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: perennial pants issue

I find wool to have inadequate abrasion resistance for shorts, tights and 
trousers for cycling.  They wear through in embarrassing places quickly 
(sometimes within 2-3 rides).



  

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