Re: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
Thanks to all who replied! Lots of great pictures and info there. Still wondering how many Salukis were produced The check is in the mail to the seller, so I expect I will be unpacking my very first Rivendell in two weeks or so. Based on what's coming and not coming with the bike, I know I'll have questions. I'll ask them in separate threads to keep this one on Saluki History on topic for future reference. It's a good one! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
on 5/3/10 10:01 AM, Rob Harrison at robha...@gmail.com wrote: If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... € When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? € Where were they made? By whom? € How many were made? € Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) € It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) € Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Hey there Rob - Welcome to the bunch. I never put together a Saluki-specific page yet - http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw But, there wasn't too much in terms of separate printed material that I came across. There were definitely announcements in the Reader. It was the first 650B/584 bicycle that they produced. The production was not so much stopped as rolled into the Hilsen - the 650B/584 version is pretty similar if not identical. Except for the name and headbadge, of course. I'm kind of under the gun on a project early this week, but will dig through the archives later and try to get some more info posted. Here are some examples in the galleries: http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2009/cc604-ginozahnd0109.html http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc004-joelstern0505.html http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc117-joeszokoli0506.html http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc490-daveminyard0608.html http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc307-iankersey0507.html http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc359-clairezahnd0807.html -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 10:01 -0700, Rob Harrison wrote: If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? 2005, if I recall correctly. The Saluki mailing list began in Oct 2004. Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? yes • Where were they made? By whom? built by Toyo in Japan • How many were made? no idea • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? First year colors were silver and whats-in-the-diaper olive, but custom colors were available for a small upcharge. Later on, they went to butterscotch as the standard color. What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) You left out an interesting part: they came in center-pull-uki and cantiluki versions, with or without canti studs. • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? when the A Homer Hilsen began Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? I don't recall there being any such. Here's mine: http://freewebs.com/palincss http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157617915097787/show/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
The Saluki was introduced in late 2003 or early 2004. They were produced by Toyo in Japan, same as the Rambouillet, and the first batch was offered in either green or silver. Custom paint options were offered through a painter local to Rivendell for an upcharge, which accounts for most of the other colors you see. the Caramel was a custom color I asked for and Grant created for my Saluki from the first batch, and which he liked well enough to make it the stock option for future frame runs. (I asked for a Harvest Gold, like some Riv customs but a richer tone with more brown) As far as I know, the Saluki was the first production 650b-wheeled frame offered in the U.S. since a few mountain bikes from Raleigh and Schwinn in the 80's. They were initially offered with either NOS (reintroduced?) DiaCompe centerpull brakes or cantis, and when the Tektro super-long reach sidepulls were introduced, Grant designed a frame to go with them and fitted the smaller frames with 650b, the larger with 700c. Saluki production was rolled into this new frame. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Rob Harrison Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:02 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? • Where were they made? By whom? • How many were made? • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Thank you! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
What Jim said. And http://is.gd/bSxAZ There was also the pewter color in addition to what Steve listed. They aren't coming back as a Saluki. Production never stopped though - they're now the AHH in smaller sizes. I don't think there was ever a brochure, and yep, late 2004 or early 2005 is when the Saluki dropped. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? • Where were they made? By whom? • How many were made? • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Thank you! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
I misspoke(typed) the dates--late '04-early -05 is correct. (I got mine in March or April of 2005) Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Frederick, Steve Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 2:34 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance The Saluki was introduced in late 2003 or early 2004. They were produced by Toyo in Japan, same as the Rambouillet, and the first batch was offered in either green or silver. Custom paint options were offered through a painter local to Rivendell for an upcharge, which accounts for most of the other colors you see. the Caramel was a custom color I asked for and Grant created for my Saluki from the first batch, and which he liked well enough to make it the stock option for future frame runs. (I asked for a Harvest Gold, like some Riv customs but a richer tone with more brown) As far as I know, the Saluki was the first production 650b-wheeled frame offered in the U.S. since a few mountain bikes from Raleigh and Schwinn in the 80's. They were initially offered with either NOS (reintroduced?) DiaCompe centerpull brakes or cantis, and when the Tektro super-long reach sidepulls were introduced, Grant designed a frame to go with them and fitted the smaller frames with 650b, the larger with 700c. Saluki production was rolled into this new frame. Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Rob Harrison Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:02 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? • Where were they made? By whom? • How many were made? • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Thank you! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
Just to add to all the good info so far, you can use the time travel portal (waybackmachine archive) and look it up on the early 2005 RBW website. http://web.archive.org/web/20050207221216/www.rivbike.com/html/bikes_saluki.html Original green was yellow olive You could also get a pewter headbadge for an addition $25. Tailwinds! From: Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 12:01:35 PM Subject: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance If all goes well it appears I may soon become an official member of the RBW Owners Bunch. (!!!) I'm curious about the origins and history of the Saluki. Can anyone fill me in? For example... • When did the model debut? Was it the first Riv bike designed for 650b? • Where were they made? By whom? • How many were made? • Did colors vary by model year, or was there a stock range? What were the colors? (I've seen mainly orange and butterscotch in the larger sizes, but there is quite a range of colors of smaller sizes still on the riv site.) • It's not currently in the catalog. When did production stop? Will they be back? (I heard a rumor of a possible rotation with the A.H.H.?) • Anyone have a pdf of the original brochure or design brief? Thank you! Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Saluki History + Provenance
On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 12:02 -0700, Bruce wrote: Just to add to all the good info so far, you can use the time travel portal (waybackmachine archive) and look it up on the early 2005 RBW website. http://web.archive.org/web/20050207221216/www.rivbike.com/html/bikes_saluki.html Original green was yellow olive That's the color I referred to as what's in the baby's diaper. You could also get a pewter headbadge for an addition $25. I did. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
