Re: [RBW] Bike Computer

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

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> On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:58 AM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looking for a simple, accurate bike computer? Don’t need all the GPS-enabled 
> bells and whistles? On a budget?
> 
> I’m selling a BBB wireless computer (model BCP-15W) that I purchased in 
> Rambouillet in 2019 after I discovered that I had left my “real” bike 
> computer back in the USA. Used for a couple of rides, then carefully removed 
> and stored ever since. Comes with the O-rings, etc., needed to install, 
> instruction manual, original packaging.
> 
> $20 shipped in the USA.
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Tim Gavin]

I have a Rokform case

for my iPhone 6.  I'm pretty happy with it; it protects my phone from small
drops, and it has a metal back so it keeps the phone from bending when I
sit down with it in my pocket (broke my first iPhone6 that way, which was
in an otterbox case).
It has a twist-lock mount on the back of the case, and I got a matching mount
for the handlebar
.
It's a low-profile mount (doesn't take up much bar space) and it holds
pretty securely (it has a lock tab in addition to the 45-degree twist
required).

But, I still managed to break my phone with it!

I did a nice, uptempo ride on our regional bike path (Cedar Valley Nature
Trail
),
and I stopped for a quick break.  I took my phone off the handlebars to
check my speed thus far, but my hands were still tingly from the aggressive
ride that I dropped the phone right on the pavement when I unlocked it from
the bar mount!  D'oh!  It landed flat on its face and cracked the glass.

So, my takeaway is that even with a super secure case and mount, attaching
a phone to the handlebar is a dangerous proposition.  Trying to handle a
bike and phone at the same time--even while stopped--can be too much for a
klutz like me.

I am very happy with the Rokform pro case otherwise, though.  I added a
stick-on glass screen protector after that drop from my bars, and this
phone has survived since then.
Rokform's cases have a magnet just below the twist-lock; some of their
mounts use this magnet instead of or in addition to the twist-lock.
The magnet was strong enough to keep my phone stuck to the top of my
friend's pickup truck on a ~20 mile drive home from a float trip!  Did I
mention I'm calamity-prone?  But in this scenario, the phone actually
survived my negligence.  Nice case!

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 6:02 PM, REC  wrote:

> Thanks, Bill and Patrick.  That's what I thought...  I wanted to make sure
> I didn't miss anything.
>
> Bill, I also thought of needing an app called I-breadcrumbs, more for
> getting back out of a hiking trail--you know how they can branch off.
>
> Roberta
>
>
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 6:42:14 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Roberta
>>
>> I don't know if any of the apps spit out a reverse cue sheet based on
>> where you rode or give you turn by turn directions to take you home after
>> you've rambled yourself lost.  I would name the app "i-breadcrumbs".
>>
>> When I stop to look at the screen to find my way, I'm using the screen as
>> a paperless map, just like I would have done with a paper map.
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 3:29:00 PM UTC-7, REC wrote:
>>>
>>> Does either Strava or Cyclometer or any of the others reverse your trip
>>> with verbal or turn by turn "written" directions--perhaps I missed it?
>>> Right now, I only go exactly where I know I can backtrack, so I don't get
>>> lost.  Or, do you use Google Maps or Waze for directions?  Road directions,
>>> though, could be different than MUP directions for a return trip.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:57:10 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>

 ...If I get lost and need the GPS for directions, that's a good time to
 stop and pay attention to the screen anyway.

 that's just me

 BL in EC

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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[REC]

Thanks, Bill and Patrick.  That's what I thought...  I wanted to make sure 
I didn't miss anything.

Bill, I also thought of needing an app called I-breadcrumbs, more for 
getting back out of a hiking trail--you know how they can branch off. 

Roberta

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 6:42:14 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Roberta
>
> I don't know if any of the apps spit out a reverse cue sheet based on 
> where you rode or give you turn by turn directions to take you home after 
> you've rambled yourself lost.  I would name the app "i-breadcrumbs".  
>
> When I stop to look at the screen to find my way, I'm using the screen as 
> a paperless map, just like I would have done with a paper map.  
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 3:29:00 PM UTC-7, REC wrote:
>>
>> Does either Strava or Cyclometer or any of the others reverse your trip 
>> with verbal or turn by turn "written" directions--perhaps I missed it?  
>> Right now, I only go exactly where I know I can backtrack, so I don't get 
>> lost.  Or, do you use Google Maps or Waze for directions?  Road directions, 
>> though, could be different than MUP directions for a return trip.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:57:10 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> ...If I get lost and need the GPS for directions, that's a good time to 
>>> stop and pay attention to the screen anyway.  
>>>
>>> that's just me
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>



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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Deacon Patrick]

Roberta, I use paper map and compass, with iPhone as back up in the event I 
have no idea where I am.

The basics of navigation are far simpler than "remember the exact route I 
took to get here, wherever here is." If I know where I want to go, and I 
can figure out where I am, how do I connect the two? No need to remember 
anything. As Bill points out, you can use the screen the same as a paper 
map.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 4:29:00 PM UTC-6, REC wrote:
>
> Does either Strava or Cyclometer or any of the others reverse your trip 
> with verbal or turn by turn "written" directions--perhaps I missed it?  
> Right now, I only go exactly where I know I can backtrack, so I don't get 
> lost.  Or, do you use Google Maps or Waze for directions?  Road directions, 
> though, could be different than MUP directions for a return trip.
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta
>
>
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:57:10 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>>
>> ...If I get lost and need the GPS for directions, that's a good time to 
>> stop and pay attention to the screen anyway.  
>>
>> that's just me
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Bill Lindsay]

Roberta

I don't know if any of the apps spit out a reverse cue sheet based on where 
you rode or give you turn by turn directions to take you home after you've 
rambled yourself lost.  I would name the app "i-breadcrumbs".  

When I stop to look at the screen to find my way, I'm using the screen as a 
paperless map, just like I would have done with a paper map.  

BL in EC

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 3:29:00 PM UTC-7, REC wrote:
>
> Does either Strava or Cyclometer or any of the others reverse your trip 
> with verbal or turn by turn "written" directions--perhaps I missed it?  
> Right now, I only go exactly where I know I can backtrack, so I don't get 
> lost.  Or, do you use Google Maps or Waze for directions?  Road directions, 
> though, could be different than MUP directions for a return trip.
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta
>
>
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:57:10 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>>
>> ...If I get lost and need the GPS for directions, that's a good time to 
>> stop and pay attention to the screen anyway.  
>>
>> that's just me
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[REC]

Does either Strava or Cyclometer or any of the others reverse your trip 
with verbal or turn by turn "written" directions--perhaps I missed it?  
Right now, I only go exactly where I know I can backtrack, so I don't get 
lost.  Or, do you use Google Maps or Waze for directions?  Road directions, 
though, could be different than MUP directions for a return trip.

Thanks,
Roberta


On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:57:10 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

>
> ...If I get lost and need the GPS for directions, that's a good time to 
> stop and pay attention to the screen anyway.  
>
> that's just me
>
> BL in EC
>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Reed Kennedy]

I dislike everything I've used to attach a phone to my handlebars and don't
bother anymore. I either carry it in a bag or pocked with Strava running
and ignore it like others have mentioned, or I'll use my Wahoo Elemnt.

That said, of the phone-on-bars things I've tried, I disliked this one the
least:
https://www.amazon.com/Nite-Ize-HandleBand-Lightweight-Smartphones/dp/B00GOUO42A

It fits every phone, and will almost certainly fit whatever next year's
phone is too, and the one after that. OTOH, the band does cover the screen
some.

This won't work for rides of much duration, though. Running Strava with the
screen on sucks down battery like nobody's business.


Best,
Reed

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Justin, Oakland 
wrote:

> Related:
> For those of us who may want to just use their iPhone for the few times we
> want a computer what case/mount would folks recommend?
>
> -J
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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Justin August]

Most of the time I stash it in a stem sack/bartender. I just want to know what 
else is out there.

-J

On Jun 12, 2017, 2:57 PM -0700, Bill Lindsay , wrote:
> iPhone mounted to my handlebars?  yuck!  I toss it in my handlebar bag, or 
> wrap it in a bandanna in a jersey pocket.  That way there's nothing dumb to 
> distract me on my bars, so I can enjoy the ride, and then I can check my 
> mileage when I get home.
>
> If I get lost and need the GPS for directions, that's a good time to stop and 
> pay attention to the screen anyway.
>
> that's just me
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 2:42:19 PM UTC-7, Justin, Oakland wrote:
> > Related:
> > For those of us who may want to just use their iPhone for the few times we 
> > want a computer what case/mount would folks recommend?
> > -J
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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Bill Lindsay]

iPhone mounted to my handlebars?  yuck!  I toss it in my handlebar bag, or 
wrap it in a bandanna in a jersey pocket.  That way there's nothing dumb to 
distract me on my bars, so I can enjoy the ride, and then I can check my 
mileage when I get home.  

If I get lost and need the GPS for directions, that's a good time to stop 
and pay attention to the screen anyway.  

that's just me

BL in EC

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 2:42:19 PM UTC-7, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> Related:
> For those of us who may want to just use their iPhone for the few times we 
> want a computer what case/mount would folks recommend?
>
> -J
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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Justin, Oakland]

Related:
For those of us who may want to just use their iPhone for the few times we want 
a computer what case/mount would folks recommend?

-J

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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Patrick Moore]

Cyclemeter; the free version. I've tried others including Strava, but find
Cyclemeter the best compromise of easy and comprehensive.

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Broccoli Cog  wrote:

> What do you use for a bike computer if anything at all? In my past cycling
> life I wouldn't think about leaving the house without my Garmin and a HRM.
> These days more often than not I simply don't bother with the Garmin. I
> must say it's pretty liberating. I've contemplated going back to a plain
> old bike computer that is simple to use and just keeps track of time and
> distance. Since I no longer have a desire to upload my rides online I
> wonder if a simple computer is best or maybe I don't even need one at all?
> Curious to know what other list members are doing.
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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Kellie]

Hi Reed. I 2nd all of Reed's observations about the Element. 

On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:17:48 AM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> The only thing I really like using a bike computer for is finding and 
> following new routes without stopping to check the way.
>
> The Wahoo Elemnt is really, really great for that. It syncs with 
> RideWithGPS and other sites via either your phone or wifi and displays a 
> map on a nice black and white screen that is easy to read even in direct 
> sunlight. 
>
> I could use my iPhone for this, but the Elemnt is easier to read and I 
> don't have to worry about running out of battery on my phone, which always 
> causes me some anxiety.
>
> The Elemnt also does a great job with speed, Strava, and sensor stuff 
> (power, heart rate, cadence, etc) but it turns out I don't care a whole lot 
> about most of that stuff most of the time. I bring it with me when I want 
> directions and leave it home the rest of the time. I find it far, far nicer 
> to interact with than the Garmin I had before, which always felt like work.
>
> Oh, and the Element does track the temperature, which is kind of nice. I 
> felt like I wasn't riding so well the other week, and it turned out it was 
> over 100 degrees!
>
>
> Reed
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Broccoli Cog  > wrote:
>
>> What do you use for a bike computer if anything at all? In my past 
>> cycling life I wouldn't think about leaving the house without my Garmin and 
>> a HRM. These days more often than not I simply don't bother with the 
>> Garmin. I must say it's pretty liberating. I've contemplated going back to 
>> a plain old bike computer that is simple to use and just keeps track of 
>> time and distance. Since I no longer have a desire to upload my rides 
>> online I wonder if a simple computer is best or maybe I don't even need one 
>> at all? Curious to know what other list members are doing.
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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Eric Floden]

I have one on each bike.  This winter I had a recurring cold that did not
let up and was happy to be prompted by these devices to ride more, even not
feeling up to it.  I track monthly mileage and saw I still rode less those
10+ weeks.

And my M6 VDO has a feature likely available elsewhere, showing the %
grade.  So if I come upon a steep hill, I want to quantify it!

EricF
Vancouver BC

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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Tim Butterfield]

>  Both ANT+ and BT are fed simultaneously by the Wahoo Fitness Blue SC
sensor and a TickrX HR strap.

Just to clarify in case anyone wants this feature.  The prior version of
BlueSC did not do this, though the current version does.  So, make sure to
check the version of the device.

Tim

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Tim Butterfield 
wrote:

> I have a pair of devices on my AHH.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/timbutterfield/29444653562/in/
> album-72157672136967320/
>
> These are a Garmin Edge 820 and an iPhone 5S running the Wahoo Fitness app
> (on a Quad Lock mount).  Both ANT+ and BT are fed simultaneously by the
> Wahoo Fitness Blue SC sensor and a TickrX HR strap.  I went this way as I
> also use the TickrX and Wahoo iOS app off of the bike.
>
> Tim
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Broccoli Cog  wrote:
>
>> What do you use for a bike computer if anything at all? In my past
>> cycling life I wouldn't think about leaving the house without my Garmin and
>> a HRM. These days more often than not I simply don't bother with the
>> Garmin. I must say it's pretty liberating. I've contemplated going back to
>> a plain old bike computer that is simple to use and just keeps track of
>> time and distance. Since I no longer have a desire to upload my rides
>> online I wonder if a simple computer is best or maybe I don't even need one
>> at all? Curious to know what other list members are doing.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Broccoli Cog]

Good tip on the Element. Navigation tools are useful to me. I have tried using 
my iPhone and never really could figure out the RidewithGPS app. I too worry 
about battery drain. 

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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Reed Kennedy]

The only thing I really like using a bike computer for is finding and
following new routes without stopping to check the way.

The Wahoo Elemnt is really, really great for that. It syncs with
RideWithGPS and other sites via either your phone or wifi and displays a
map on a nice black and white screen that is easy to read even in direct
sunlight.

I could use my iPhone for this, but the Elemnt is easier to read and I
don't have to worry about running out of battery on my phone, which always
causes me some anxiety.

The Elemnt also does a great job with speed, Strava, and sensor stuff
(power, heart rate, cadence, etc) but it turns out I don't care a whole lot
about most of that stuff most of the time. I bring it with me when I want
directions and leave it home the rest of the time. I find it far, far nicer
to interact with than the Garmin I had before, which always felt like work.

Oh, and the Element does track the temperature, which is kind of nice. I
felt like I wasn't riding so well the other week, and it turned out it was
over 100 degrees!


Reed

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Broccoli Cog  wrote:

> What do you use for a bike computer if anything at all? In my past cycling
> life I wouldn't think about leaving the house without my Garmin and a HRM.
> These days more often than not I simply don't bother with the Garmin. I
> must say it's pretty liberating. I've contemplated going back to a plain
> old bike computer that is simple to use and just keeps track of time and
> distance. Since I no longer have a desire to upload my rides online I
> wonder if a simple computer is best or maybe I don't even need one at all?
> Curious to know what other list members are doing.
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Re: [RBW] Bike computer

[Tim Butterfield]

I have a pair of devices on my AHH.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/timbutterfield/29444653562/in/album-72157672136967320/

These are a Garmin Edge 820 and an iPhone 5S running the Wahoo Fitness app
(on a Quad Lock mount).  Both ANT+ and BT are fed simultaneously by the
Wahoo Fitness Blue SC sensor and a TickrX HR strap.  I went this way as I
also use the TickrX and Wahoo iOS app off of the bike.

Tim

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Broccoli Cog  wrote:

> What do you use for a bike computer if anything at all? In my past cycling
> life I wouldn't think about leaving the house without my Garmin and a HRM.
> These days more often than not I simply don't bother with the Garmin. I
> must say it's pretty liberating. I've contemplated going back to a plain
> old bike computer that is simple to use and just keeps track of time and
> distance. Since I no longer have a desire to upload my rides online I
> wonder if a simple computer is best or maybe I don't even need one at all?
> Curious to know what other list members are doing.
>

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