Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[lconley]

#5 - I believe that most generator powered headlight beams were designed to 
project from just above the wheel (rack or fender or fork crown mount), as 
that is sort of constant within a short range. Handlebar heights can vary 
greatly and can end up with the light pointed down too much.
The handlebar mounted battery lights would be an obvious exception to this.

Try these:
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/headlights.php
https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/plight.php

Also explore the rest of Peter White's site - most everything you need to 
know about bicycle lighting is there.

Laing

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:43:18 AM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Hello all, I have an update and some questions.
>
> This afternoon I installed the headlight and finished a few details. After 
> sunset I went for a ride, and I was amazed at the brightness and throw of 
> the new headlight and taillight!
>
> However, I have a few questions for people familiar with the SON dynamo 
> and Schmidt Edelux II:
>
> 1: Once the bike is moving, the 0, S, and 1 switch positions do not 
> function. I can turn the lights on, but not off. What’s the story here?
>
> 2: When I ride with the headlight switch in the “S” position, the light is 
> dim and flickers. Is that normal?
>
> 3: When I got home and put the bike away, the lights remained on for 
> several minutes, regardless of the switch position. Is that normal?
>
> 4: The light shape on the ground is sort of a trapezoid, surrounded by a 
> less-bright circle. Is that the way the light beam was designed?
>
> 5: My headlight is mounted on my handlebars; most headlights I’ve seen are 
> mounted at the fork crown or on a front rack. What is the advantage of 
> mounting the light lower and closer to the front wheel? If my headlight is 
> mounted on the handlebars, am I reducing the efficacy of the light? 
>
> 6: The light is illuminating approximately ten to twenty feet of road in 
> front of me. What is the correct position for the light? Should I aim the 
> light higher or lower?
>
> Below are some photos from this evening’s ride. As always, your wisdom, 
> experience, and advice are welcomed and appreciated.
> [image: IMG_9244-2.jpg]
> The throw and brightness of the Edelux is amazing.
>
> [image: IMG_9285-2.jpg]
> Here's the trapezoid light shape, surrounded by a circle.
>
> [image: IMG_9266-2.jpg]
> The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, but I have promises to keep...
>
> [image: IMG_9304-2.jpg]
> ...and miles to go before I sleep.
>
>
>  
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[Matthew Williams]

They’re Paul Motolites . . . courtesy of Ryan!

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> On Jun 12, 2023, at 1:22 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Home-made clamp: PDG!!
> 
> (= Pretty Damned Good)
> 
> Those cantilevers: '90s -- but I can't just now recall the maker; at any 
> rate, I do recall that they are considered top designs. Can you name the 
> maker?
> 
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 10:37 AM Matthew Williams 
> mailto:matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
>> Thanks! Yes, the clamp was purpose-made: I fabbed it from a piece of scrap 
>> metal.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Ted W >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I love how the tail light is mounted. Is that a purpose made clamp or is 
>>> that a rack clamp repurposed?
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 12:31 PM Matthew Williams 
>>> mailto:matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com>> 
>>> wrote:
 Hi everyone, here are a few photos of the progress. 
 
 I’ve installed the taillight, just need to clean up the wiring.
 
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[Patrick Moore]

Home-made clamp: PDG!!

(= Pretty Damned Good)

Those cantilevers: '90s -- but I can't just now recall the maker; at any
rate, I do recall that they are considered top designs. Can you name the
maker?

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 10:37 AM Matthew Williams <
matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks! Yes, the clamp was purpose-made: I fabbed it from a piece of scrap
> metal.
>
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Ted W  wrote:
>
> I love how the tail light is mounted. Is that a purpose made clamp or is
> that a rack clamp repurposed?
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 12:31 PM Matthew Williams <
> matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone, here are a few photos of the progress.
>>
>> I’ve installed the taillight, just need to clean up the wiring.
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[Matthew Williams]

Thanks! Yes, the clamp was purpose-made: I fabbed it from a piece of scrap 
metal.



> On Jun 12, 2023, at 9:35 AM, Ted W  wrote:
> 
> I love how the tail light is mounted. Is that a purpose made clamp or is that 
> a rack clamp repurposed?
> 
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 12:31 PM Matthew Williams 
> mailto:matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
>> Hi everyone, here are a few photos of the progress. 
>> 
>> I’ve installed the taillight, just need to clean up the wiring.
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[Ted W]

I love how the tail light is mounted. Is that a purpose made clamp or is
that a rack clamp repurposed?

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 12:31 PM Matthew Williams <
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[brizbarn]

Sean, is that wire similiar to others with two joined wires that can be 
split and stripped or is it something different? Pic is pretty bad on their 
site. Do you know if it's sold anywhere else?  

On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 4:08:02 PM UTC-8 Sean, PNW wrote:

> The 22AWG wire offered by Velo Lumino, currently out of stock, is the best 
> solution I've found for threading dynamo wiring through tight spaces such 
> as fork legs:
>
>
> https://www.velolumino.com/product/premium-22awg-wire/10?cp=true=true=false=false
>
> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 3:30:12 PM UTC-8 brizbarn wrote:
>
>> I did something similar on on my Surly Travels Check, but had to drill 
>> the holes bigger. That fork had a small hole at top of fork leg tube, I 
>> couldn't go up into steerer tube like yours.  Definitely looks cleaner, but 
>> drilling your fork is not ideal, and I doubt you can get the wiring through 
>> the little hole, but it would be great if you proved me wrong.  
>>
>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 3:22:51 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I wired my Sinewave through the fork blade on my Crust Bombora, and it 
>>> was probably one of the most frustrating tinkering projects I’ve ever 
>>> attempted with any of my bikes. I almost gave up numerous times, and I 
>>> actually had to do it all over again once I had successfully completed the 
>>> routing. Most of the Crust frames have that cool little routing hole on the 
>>> backside of the upper right fork blade… which just begs for you to use it 
>>> as such. The problem is, in order to take advantage of it, you still have 
>>> to use that little hole down near the dropout as an entry / exit point. No 
>>> matter what, you’re essentially fishing wiring cable through a hole that is 
>>> maybe only 1mm wider than the thickness of the cable housing itself, and at 
>>> a very sharp, awkward angle. No doubt the situation you’re faced with now.
>>>
>>> I stripped the wiring to where only one of the two inside wires was 
>>> exposed and made sure the cuts were as clean as possible. Once that was fed 
>>> down to the dropout hole, I managed to snag that (now thinner profile) wire 
>>> with some very, very thin tweezers and pulled the whole cable through. 
>>> Before I found the right set of tweezers to use, I had tried various 
>>> methods like using an old spoke, a guiding wire, etc. None of those worked 
>>> for me.
>>>
>>> I don’t have any sure fire advice, unfortunately, but I feel your pain!
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 11:04:35 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Interesting. My Pashley (gone to a new home several years ago) had two 
 brazed-in mounting points on the fork to which a piece was fitted that 
 accepted a standard bottle generator. The setup is shown in the attached 
 image.

 It worked quite well, without the need to run wiring very far at 
 all—just a short distance from the generator to the light.

 --Eric Norris
 campyo...@me.com[image: IMG_0554.jpeg]
 Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
 YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

 On Nov 21, 2022, at 4:59 AM, lconley  wrote:

 My Pashley Guv'nor came with an enlarged hole on the right side bottom 
 of the fork and a slit grommet in a hole on the top of the fork even 
 though 
 it didn't come with a generator - I rectified that with a  
 Sturmey-Archer 90mm Drum Brake Dynohub. My former Trek Belleville had 
 internal wiring in the fork & frame and the front rack had a separate set 
 of tubes for the light wiring.  I love internally routed electrical wires. 
 Go for it.

 Laing

 On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 2:57:42 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> I’ve been tempted to do the same thing. I’ve decided to instead 
> purchase a Pass & Stow rack which allows for internal routing.
>
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 11:19:55 PM UTC-8 jmlmu...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I’ve done it a few times and used a Dremmel to enlarge the hole near 
>> the dropout. No matter how much I tried to run the wire without 
>> enlarging 
>> the hole, I failed. I ended up soldering the “fishing” wire to the cable 
>> and pulling it from bottom to top.Took me losing the cable several times 
>> mid fork and having to re-fish to come up with that method. Learn from 
>> my 
>> hours of mistakes! Literally hours. 
>>
>> Joe in Los Angeles 
>>
>> > On Nov 20, 2022, at 10:13 PM, Matthew Williams <
>> matthewwil...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Hi everyone, 
>> > 
>> > Most bikes I see with the SON dynamo have the wire wound around the 
>> right front fork blade. I want to run the wire inside the fork using the 
>> small hole near the dropout. 
>> > 
>> > I’ve already fished a thin wire through the fork as a leader i.e. I 
>> can attach the leader to the SON dynamo wire and pull it through the 
>> 

Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

['Sean, PNW' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The 22AWG wire offered by Velo Lumino, currently out of stock, is the best 
solution I've found for threading dynamo wiring through tight spaces such 
as fork legs:

https://www.velolumino.com/product/premium-22awg-wire/10?cp=true=true=false=false

On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 3:30:12 PM UTC-8 brizbarn wrote:

> I did something similar on on my Surly Travels Check, but had to drill the 
> holes bigger. That fork had a small hole at top of fork leg tube, I 
> couldn't go up into steerer tube like yours.  Definitely looks cleaner, but 
> drilling your fork is not ideal, and I doubt you can get the wiring through 
> the little hole, but it would be great if you proved me wrong.  
>
> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 3:22:51 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I wired my Sinewave through the fork blade on my Crust Bombora, and it 
>> was probably one of the most frustrating tinkering projects I’ve ever 
>> attempted with any of my bikes. I almost gave up numerous times, and I 
>> actually had to do it all over again once I had successfully completed the 
>> routing. Most of the Crust frames have that cool little routing hole on the 
>> backside of the upper right fork blade… which just begs for you to use it 
>> as such. The problem is, in order to take advantage of it, you still have 
>> to use that little hole down near the dropout as an entry / exit point. No 
>> matter what, you’re essentially fishing wiring cable through a hole that is 
>> maybe only 1mm wider than the thickness of the cable housing itself, and at 
>> a very sharp, awkward angle. No doubt the situation you’re faced with now.
>>
>> I stripped the wiring to where only one of the two inside wires was 
>> exposed and made sure the cuts were as clean as possible. Once that was fed 
>> down to the dropout hole, I managed to snag that (now thinner profile) wire 
>> with some very, very thin tweezers and pulled the whole cable through. 
>> Before I found the right set of tweezers to use, I had tried various 
>> methods like using an old spoke, a guiding wire, etc. None of those worked 
>> for me.
>>
>> I don’t have any sure fire advice, unfortunately, but I feel your pain!
>>
>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 11:04:35 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting. My Pashley (gone to a new home several years ago) had two 
>>> brazed-in mounting points on the fork to which a piece was fitted that 
>>> accepted a standard bottle generator. The setup is shown in the attached 
>>> image.
>>>
>>> It worked quite well, without the need to run wiring very far at 
>>> all—just a short distance from the generator to the light.
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com[image: IMG_0554.jpeg]
>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>>
>>> On Nov 21, 2022, at 4:59 AM, lconley  wrote:
>>>
>>> My Pashley Guv'nor came with an enlarged hole on the right side bottom 
>>> of the fork and a slit grommet in a hole on the top of the fork even though 
>>> it didn't come with a generator - I rectified that with a  
>>> Sturmey-Archer 90mm Drum Brake Dynohub. My former Trek Belleville had 
>>> internal wiring in the fork & frame and the front rack had a separate set 
>>> of tubes for the light wiring.  I love internally routed electrical wires. 
>>> Go for it.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 2:57:42 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>>
 I’ve been tempted to do the same thing. I’ve decided to instead 
 purchase a Pass & Stow rack which allows for internal routing.

 On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 11:19:55 PM UTC-8 jmlmu...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I’ve done it a few times and used a Dremmel to enlarge the hole near 
> the dropout. No matter how much I tried to run the wire without enlarging 
> the hole, I failed. I ended up soldering the “fishing” wire to the cable 
> and pulling it from bottom to top.Took me losing the cable several times 
> mid fork and having to re-fish to come up with that method. Learn from my 
> hours of mistakes! Literally hours. 
>
> Joe in Los Angeles 
>
> > On Nov 20, 2022, at 10:13 PM, Matthew Williams <
> matthewwil...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi everyone, 
> > 
> > Most bikes I see with the SON dynamo have the wire wound around the 
> right front fork blade. I want to run the wire inside the fork using the 
> small hole near the dropout. 
> > 
> > I’ve already fished a thin wire through the fork as a leader i.e. I 
> can attach the leader to the SON dynamo wire and pull it through the 
> fork, 
> unless the dynamo wire is too thick. Below are photos of the leader wire 
> I 
> fished through the fork. 
> > 
> > Is this possible, or is it a bad idea? Has anyone here managed to 
> achieve this setup? If so, how did you do it, and please post photos of 
> your internal wiring setups! 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[brizbarn]

I did something similar on on my Surly Travels Check, but had to drill the 
holes bigger. That fork had a small hole at top of fork leg tube, I 
couldn't go up into steerer tube like yours.  Definitely looks cleaner, but 
drilling your fork is not ideal, and I doubt you can get the wiring through 
the little hole, but it would be great if you proved me wrong.  

On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 3:22:51 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> I wired my Sinewave through the fork blade on my Crust Bombora, and it was 
> probably one of the most frustrating tinkering projects I’ve ever attempted 
> with any of my bikes. I almost gave up numerous times, and I actually had 
> to do it all over again once I had successfully completed the routing. Most 
> of the Crust frames have that cool little routing hole on the backside of 
> the upper right fork blade… which just begs for you to use it as such. The 
> problem is, in order to take advantage of it, you still have to use that 
> little hole down near the dropout as an entry / exit point. No matter what, 
> you’re essentially fishing wiring cable through a hole that is maybe only 
> 1mm wider than the thickness of the cable housing itself, and at a very 
> sharp, awkward angle. No doubt the situation you’re faced with now.
>
> I stripped the wiring to where only one of the two inside wires was 
> exposed and made sure the cuts were as clean as possible. Once that was fed 
> down to the dropout hole, I managed to snag that (now thinner profile) wire 
> with some very, very thin tweezers and pulled the whole cable through. 
> Before I found the right set of tweezers to use, I had tried various 
> methods like using an old spoke, a guiding wire, etc. None of those worked 
> for me.
>
> I don’t have any sure fire advice, unfortunately, but I feel your pain!
>
> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 11:04:35 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> Interesting. My Pashley (gone to a new home several years ago) had two 
>> brazed-in mounting points on the fork to which a piece was fitted that 
>> accepted a standard bottle generator. The setup is shown in the attached 
>> image.
>>
>> It worked quite well, without the need to run wiring very far at all—just 
>> a short distance from the generator to the light.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com[image: IMG_0554.jpeg]
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>> On Nov 21, 2022, at 4:59 AM, lconley  wrote:
>>
>> My Pashley Guv'nor came with an enlarged hole on the right side bottom of 
>> the fork and a slit grommet in a hole on the top of the fork even though it 
>> didn't come with a generator - I rectified that with a  Sturmey-Archer 90mm 
>> Drum Brake Dynohub. My former Trek Belleville had internal wiring in the 
>> fork & frame and the front rack had a separate set of tubes for the light 
>> wiring.  I love internally routed electrical wires. Go for it.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 2:57:42 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve been tempted to do the same thing. I’ve decided to instead purchase 
>>> a Pass & Stow rack which allows for internal routing.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 11:19:55 PM UTC-8 jmlmu...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I’ve done it a few times and used a Dremmel to enlarge the hole near 
 the dropout. No matter how much I tried to run the wire without enlarging 
 the hole, I failed. I ended up soldering the “fishing” wire to the cable 
 and pulling it from bottom to top.Took me losing the cable several times 
 mid fork and having to re-fish to come up with that method. Learn from my 
 hours of mistakes! Literally hours. 

 Joe in Los Angeles 

 > On Nov 20, 2022, at 10:13 PM, Matthew Williams <
 matthewwil...@gmail.com> wrote: 
 > 
 > Hi everyone, 
 > 
 > Most bikes I see with the SON dynamo have the wire wound around the 
 right front fork blade. I want to run the wire inside the fork using the 
 small hole near the dropout. 
 > 
 > I’ve already fished a thin wire through the fork as a leader i.e. I 
 can attach the leader to the SON dynamo wire and pull it through the fork, 
 unless the dynamo wire is too thick. Below are photos of the leader wire I 
 fished through the fork. 
 > 
 > Is this possible, or is it a bad idea? Has anyone here managed to 
 achieve this setup? If so, how did you do it, and please post photos of 
 your internal wiring setups! 
 > 
 > 
 > 
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[Brian Turner]

I wired my Sinewave through the fork blade on my Crust Bombora, and it was 
probably one of the most frustrating tinkering projects I’ve ever attempted 
with any of my bikes. I almost gave up numerous times, and I actually had 
to do it all over again once I had successfully completed the routing. Most 
of the Crust frames have that cool little routing hole on the backside of 
the upper right fork blade… which just begs for you to use it as such. The 
problem is, in order to take advantage of it, you still have to use that 
little hole down near the dropout as an entry / exit point. No matter what, 
you’re essentially fishing wiring cable through a hole that is maybe only 
1mm wider than the thickness of the cable housing itself, and at a very 
sharp, awkward angle. No doubt the situation you’re faced with now.

I stripped the wiring to where only one of the two inside wires was exposed 
and made sure the cuts were as clean as possible. Once that was fed down to 
the dropout hole, I managed to snag that (now thinner profile) wire with 
some very, very thin tweezers and pulled the whole cable through. Before I 
found the right set of tweezers to use, I had tried various methods like 
using an old spoke, a guiding wire, etc. None of those worked for me.

I don’t have any sure fire advice, unfortunately, but I feel your pain!

On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 11:04:35 AM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> Interesting. My Pashley (gone to a new home several years ago) had two 
> brazed-in mounting points on the fork to which a piece was fitted that 
> accepted a standard bottle generator. The setup is shown in the attached 
> image.
>
> It worked quite well, without the need to run wiring very far at all—just 
> a short distance from the generator to the light.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com[image: IMG_0554.jpeg]
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Nov 21, 2022, at 4:59 AM, lconley  wrote:
>
> My Pashley Guv'nor came with an enlarged hole on the right side bottom of 
> the fork and a slit grommet in a hole on the top of the fork even though it 
> didn't come with a generator - I rectified that with a  Sturmey-Archer 90mm 
> Drum Brake Dynohub. My former Trek Belleville had internal wiring in the 
> fork & frame and the front rack had a separate set of tubes for the light 
> wiring.  I love internally routed electrical wires. Go for it.
>
> Laing
>
> On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 2:57:42 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> I’ve been tempted to do the same thing. I’ve decided to instead purchase 
>> a Pass & Stow rack which allows for internal routing.
>>
>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 11:19:55 PM UTC-8 jmlmu...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve done it a few times and used a Dremmel to enlarge the hole near the 
>>> dropout. No matter how much I tried to run the wire without enlarging the 
>>> hole, I failed. I ended up soldering the “fishing” wire to the cable and 
>>> pulling it from bottom to top.Took me losing the cable several times mid 
>>> fork and having to re-fish to come up with that method. Learn from my hours 
>>> of mistakes! Literally hours. 
>>>
>>> Joe in Los Angeles 
>>>
>>> > On Nov 20, 2022, at 10:13 PM, Matthew Williams <
>>> matthewwil...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > Hi everyone, 
>>> > 
>>> > Most bikes I see with the SON dynamo have the wire wound around the 
>>> right front fork blade. I want to run the wire inside the fork using the 
>>> small hole near the dropout. 
>>> > 
>>> > I’ve already fished a thin wire through the fork as a leader i.e. I 
>>> can attach the leader to the SON dynamo wire and pull it through the fork, 
>>> unless the dynamo wire is too thick. Below are photos of the leader wire I 
>>> fished through the fork. 
>>> > 
>>> > Is this possible, or is it a bad idea? Has anyone here managed to 
>>> achieve this setup? If so, how did you do it, and please post photos of 
>>> your internal wiring setups! 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[lconley]

My Pashley Guv'nor came with an enlarged hole on the right side bottom of 
the fork and a slit grommet in a hole on the top of the fork even though it 
didn't come with a generator - I rectified that with a  Sturmey-Archer 90mm 
Drum Brake Dynohub. My former Trek Belleville had internal wiring in the 
fork & frame and the front rack had a separate set of tubes for the light 
wiring.  I love internally routed electrical wires. Go for it.

Laing

On Monday, November 21, 2022 at 2:57:42 AM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> I’ve been tempted to do the same thing. I’ve decided to instead purchase a 
> Pass & Stow rack which allows for internal routing.
>
> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 11:19:55 PM UTC-8 jmlmu...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I’ve done it a few times and used a Dremmel to enlarge the hole near the 
>> dropout. No matter how much I tried to run the wire without enlarging the 
>> hole, I failed. I ended up soldering the “fishing” wire to the cable and 
>> pulling it from bottom to top.Took me losing the cable several times mid 
>> fork and having to re-fish to come up with that method. Learn from my hours 
>> of mistakes! Literally hours. 
>>
>> Joe in Los Angeles 
>>
>> > On Nov 20, 2022, at 10:13 PM, Matthew Williams  
>> wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Hi everyone, 
>> > 
>> > Most bikes I see with the SON dynamo have the wire wound around the 
>> right front fork blade. I want to run the wire inside the fork using the 
>> small hole near the dropout. 
>> > 
>> > I’ve already fished a thin wire through the fork as a leader i.e. I can 
>> attach the leader to the SON dynamo wire and pull it through the fork, 
>> unless the dynamo wire is too thick. Below are photos of the leader wire I 
>> fished through the fork. 
>> > 
>> > Is this possible, or is it a bad idea? Has anyone here managed to 
>> achieve this setup? If so, how did you do it, and please post photos of 
>> your internal wiring setups! 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[Luke Hendrickson]

I’ve been tempted to do the same thing. I’ve decided to instead purchase a 
Pass & Stow rack which allows for internal routing.

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 11:19:55 PM UTC-8 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve done it a few times and used a Dremmel to enlarge the hole near the 
> dropout. No matter how much I tried to run the wire without enlarging the 
> hole, I failed. I ended up soldering the “fishing” wire to the cable and 
> pulling it from bottom to top.Took me losing the cable several times mid 
> fork and having to re-fish to come up with that method. Learn from my hours 
> of mistakes! Literally hours. 
>
> Joe in Los Angeles
>
> > On Nov 20, 2022, at 10:13 PM, Matthew Williams  
> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > Most bikes I see with the SON dynamo have the wire wound around the 
> right front fork blade. I want to run the wire inside the fork using the 
> small hole near the dropout. 
> > 
> > I’ve already fished a thin wire through the fork as a leader i.e. I can 
> attach the leader to the SON dynamo wire and pull it through the fork, 
> unless the dynamo wire is too thick. Below are photos of the leader wire I 
> fished through the fork. 
> > 
> > Is this possible, or is it a bad idea? Has anyone here managed to 
> achieve this setup? If so, how did you do it, and please post photos of 
> your internal wiring setups!
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [RBW] Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

[Joe Mullins]

I’ve done it a few times and used a Dremmel to enlarge the hole near the 
dropout. No matter how much I tried to run the wire without enlarging the hole, 
I failed. I ended up soldering the “fishing” wire to the cable and pulling it 
from bottom to top.Took me losing the cable several times mid fork and having 
to re-fish to come up with that method. Learn from my hours of mistakes! 
Literally hours. 

Joe in Los Angeles

> On Nov 20, 2022, at 10:13 PM, Matthew Williams 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Most bikes I see with the SON dynamo have the wire wound around the right 
> front fork blade. I want to run the wire inside the fork using the small hole 
> near the dropout. 
> 
> I’ve already fished a thin wire through the fork as a leader i.e. I can 
> attach the leader to the SON dynamo wire and pull it through the fork, unless 
> the dynamo wire is too thick. Below are photos of the leader wire I fished 
> through the fork. 
> 
> Is this possible, or is it a bad idea? Has anyone here managed to achieve 
> this setup? If so, how did you do it, and please post photos of your internal 
> wiring setups!
> 
> 
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