Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL
I bet they were closer to stock than customs. Cheers, David On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:29 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote: I was just looking through some Readers from right at the beginning, because a post on this forum made me curious enough to look back. You could say the original frames were stock and made at Waterford, since there were published geometry charts. But the fact I had forgotten and saw a few days ago was where it said, you could ask for custom changes to the geometry for a $200 upcharge (as long as Rivendell approved of the change.) I wonder in the early frames how often the original geometry charts were adhered to. -Original Message- From: cyclotourist ** Sent: Apr 20, 2013 6:51 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch ** Subject: Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL I meant W'ford didn't built stock/production bikes till recently. The original Rivendell semi-customs were all made in Wisconsin :-) Cheers, David On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:29 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Nice looking bike. Rams are all Japanese built IIRC. W'Ford didn't start doing bikes till fairly recently Cheers, David On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Norman Bone bone1...@yahoo.com wrote: Not mine. Pretty sure Rambos weren't made by Waterford, right? http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3753972062.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL
I recall that the business relationship between Riv and Waterford apparently broke down because so many of Riv's frame orders had deviations from the stock spec. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL
Waterford did early Rivs like the Road Standard and came back in the picture a few years ago. Rams, Roms, and Salukis along with Quickbeam many Atlanti were from Japan in betweeen, including the orange model in in the OP's link. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:29 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Nice looking bike. Rams are all Japanese built IIRC. W'Ford didn't start doing bikes till fairly recently Cheers, David On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Norman Bone bone1...@yahoo.com wrote: Not mine. Pretty sure Rambos weren't made by Waterford, right? http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3753972062.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL
An occasional Waterford is always possible in a run of Rivbikes. I wouldn't doubt the seller's information without contacting him first. On Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:29:41 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: Waterford did early Rivs like the Road Standard and came back in the picture a few years ago. Rams, Roms, and Salukis along with Quickbeam many Atlanti were from Japan in betweeen, including the orange model in in the OP's link. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:29 PM, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Nice looking bike. Rams are all Japanese built IIRC. W'Ford didn't start doing bikes till fairly recently Cheers, David On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Norman Bone bone...@yahoo.comjavascript: wrote: Not mine. Pretty sure Rambos weren't made by Waterford, right? http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3753972062.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL
The outlier being the Quickbeam, which was built by Panasonic. Ram/Rom, Saluki/Hilsen and Atlantis were built by Toyo. On Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:29:41 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: Waterford did early Rivs like the Road Standard and came back in the picture a few years ago. Rams, Roms, and Salukis along with Quickbeam many Atlanti were from Japan in betweeen, including the orange model in in the OP's link. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL
I meant W'ford didn't built stock/production bikes till recently. The original Rivendell semi-customs were all made in Wisconsin :-) Cheers, David On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:29 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Nice looking bike. Rams are all Japanese built IIRC. W'Ford didn't start doing bikes till fairly recently Cheers, David On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Norman Bone bone1...@yahoo.com wrote: Not mine. Pretty sure Rambos weren't made by Waterford, right? http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3753972062.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL
From www.rivbike.com: *Where's it made? Early Homers were made in Japan by Toyo. Then gradually and now totally production shifted to Waterford, in Wisconsin.* On Saturday, April 20, 2013 6:02:03 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: The outlier being the Quickbeam, which was built by Panasonic. Ram/Rom, Saluki/Hilsen and Atlantis were built by Toyo. On Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:29:41 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: Waterford did early Rivs like the Road Standard and came back in the picture a few years ago. Rams, Roms, and Salukis along with Quickbeam many Atlanti were from Japan in betweeen, including the orange model in in the OP's link. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL
I was just looking through some Readers from right at the beginning, because a post on this forum made me curious enough to look back. You could say the original frames were stock and made at Waterford, since there were published geometry charts. But the fact I had forgotten and saw a few days ago was where it said, you could ask for custom changes to the geometry for a $200 upcharge (as long as Rivendell approved of the change.) I wonder in the early frames how often the original geometry charts were adhered to.-Original Message- From: cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> Sent: Apr 20, 2013 6:51 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL I meant W'ford didn't built stock/production bikes till recently. The original Rivendell semi-customs were all made in Wisconsin :-) Cheers,David On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:29 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Nice looking bike. Rams are all Japanese built IIRC. W'Ford didn't start doing bikes till fairly recentlyCheers,David On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Norman Bone bone1...@yahoo.com wrote: Not mine. Pretty sure Rambos weren't made by Waterford, right?http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3753972062.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL
The first batch of Homers were made at Waterford. Then in mid-2007, you had a choice of Waterford vs. Toyo.-Original Message- From: Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> Sent: Apr 20, 2013 10:28 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL From www.rivbike.com:Where's it made? Early Homers were made in Japan by Toyo. Then gradually and now totally production shifted to Waterford, in Wisconsin.On Saturday, April 20, 2013 6:02:03 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:The outlier being the Quickbeam, which was built by Panasonic. Ram/Rom, Saluki/Hilsen and Atlantis were built by Toyo. On Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:29:41 AM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote:Waterford did early Rivs like the Road Standard and came back in the picture a few years ago. Rams, Roms, and Salukis along with Quickbeam many Atlanti were from Japan in betweeen, including the orange model in in the OP's link. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL
Nice looking bike. Rams are all Japanese built IIRC. W'Ford didn't start doing bikes till fairly recently Cheers, David On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Norman Bone bone1...@yahoo.com wrote: Not mine. Pretty sure Rambos weren't made by Waterford, right? http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3753972062.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
