Re: [RBW] Re: Cantilever brake recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Ginz, I did not watch auto correct.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:14 PM Ginz  wrote:

> Shimano cx-50.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cantilever brake recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Thanks a John.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:39 PM John Bokman  wrote:

> Shimano CX-70 (no longer in production) are the best I've used for
> stopping power, modulation, and feel. I believe the CX-50 is the same
> functional brake, and is a bargain, in my estimation. If you want to spend
> even less, I would go with the Tektro CR 710.
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>> Shimano cx-50.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cantilever brake recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Garth, thanks for so much good info

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Garth  wrote:

>
>
> Yeah, if you can some XC Pro cantilevers by all means do. They open ALL
> the way, as in past the frame. If a Kool-Stop pad gets in the way of the
> front, chop off the rear @ the rear notch. You'll know how far you can go
> as there is an internal metal frame in the pad. File it off smooth.  I love
> smooth post cantis because they are so adjustable.  I do love any canti
> that places the pad in *front* of the arm, not behind as many models of
> lat seem to do, except the Shimano Alivio CT-91 and Dia Compe 988. Tektro's
> 710/720 look great until you install them and find where the pad holders
> bolt is ends up hitting the frame, limiting the amount of space you have to
> remove the tire. Really stupid beyond words. I ended up using other brakes.
> I even prefer regular road size pads, not those elongated things, and ones
> that are centered over the post, like the Sun Tour canti's came with and
> Dia Compe uses on the 988 canti, which is remarkably similar to the XC Pro
> and it's currently made. The silver and black version use their Salmon
> colored OPC12 pad, it's regular road sized and centered.
>
> For the front with my XC Pro's I use a fork mounted Origin8 brake cable
> hanger so you can run a cable directly to it. Those two in combo is superb,
> truly superb... it just couldn't be any better !
>
> I also only use a regular free floating cable hanger guide. I abhor the
> fixing the cable as Tektro and Shimano "suggest". I see their intention,
> but again, it's utterly dumb in the real world where having the straddle
> cable run free allows for instant centering of the brake at any time with
> the slightest of touch.
>
> That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it !  Hah !
>
> -Garth !
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cantilever brake recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Gonzalez

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:14 PM Ginz  wrote:

> Shimano cx-50.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cantilever brake recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Benz, good info.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 11:46 AM Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA <
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> On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 7:57:01 AM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote:
>>
>> I don’t think I need to go with V brakes (smack me if I am wrong), and I
>> an unwilling to buy Paul’s due to price.  I got a recommendation on Velo
>> orange grand cru at $145 a set.
>>
>> Ant thoughts on what to use on an Appaloosa or Atlantis?
>>
>> If I use cantis I have a nice NOS set of Suntour levers, with V’s I start
>> from scratch.
>>
>
> If you're using a nice NOS set of Suntour levers, my bag-matching instinct
> would be to suggest a set of Suntour cantilevers, like maybe a set of XC
> Pro. If you're not in a hurry, you can probably get a nice set for <$100 on
> eBay.
>
> However, practically speaking, with the biggest crux about cantilever
> brakes being proper adjustment, older cantilever brakes often use the smooth
> post brake pads  that
> are inconvenient to adjust properly. The newer cantilever brakes that use 
> V-brake
> style threaded post brake pads 
> are much easier to adjust for toe and position. In addition, I'll also look
> for low-profile brake arms, as the wider profile ones can interfere with
> panniers and other things. The VO Gran Cru will fit these requirements, but
> if you desire something more budget-friendly, Tektro's CR710 is about 1/3
> the price of the VO (which themselves are almost half that of Paul brakes).
>
> Finally, if you're not going to use fenders, and are ambivalent about
> putting those Suntour levers into service, V-brakes are probably the
> easiest to set up and use. Especially on the front, saving that headset
> brake hanger for that cleaner look, and entirely mitigating brake judder
> are worthwhile advantages.
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