Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-11-10 Thread MCT

I measured the Stack and Reach.  I had to look how how to do it.  This is 
how I did it to make sure on same page.  For Stack, I measured from floor 
to top of center of headtube.  Then measured from floor to center of bottom 
bracket.  I then subtracted these two numbers.  For Reach,  with bike 
against a wall, I measured from center of top of headtube to the rear of 
the frame to the wall.  I then measured from the center of bottom bracket 
to the rear of the wall.  I subtracted these measurements.  I used a level 
to make sure the proper length because the top tube has a little but of 
slope.  

For stack, I measured 26.25 inches or 66.75 cm.  For reach I measured 14.5 
inches or 36.83 cm.  


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-11-10 Thread Max S
Brendonoid, that’s helpful (89 cm PBH here), but once does wonder how custom 
that frame was, what with the 65x58 combo. :-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-11-09 Thread MCT
Max,

I will get the stack and reach measurement by Sunday afternoon.  

Thanks for the tip Conway.  

Matt

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-11-09 Thread brendonoid
I ride a 63cm MUSA AHH with 90.5 PBH and absolutely could not go a size up.

On Tuesday, 5 November 2019 08:18:16 UTC+8, John G. wrote:
>
> Anyone with a 90cm PBH riding a 65cm Homer?

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-11-09 Thread Conway Bennett
There's someone on the Rivendell Facebook page look for a 64 cm AHH.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-11-09 Thread Max S
Hmm... lovely frame and I’m very tempted by the possibility of a tall bike with 
a short top tube, yet a relaxed seat tube angle, as most Rivs are. 

However, some conflicting info here about the bikes geometry, so an accurate / 
actual geometry chart would be helpful. To whit, the 58 cm top tube seems a bit 
short for a 65 cm seat tube. Was the ST measured center to top of lug?.. was 
the top tube measured without going from the centerline of the seat tube to the 
centerline of the head tube?.. 

Better yet, stack and reach numbers could really help with determining fit 
possibilities. 

- Max “need another bike like a dog needs a fifth leg, but...” in A2

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-11-09 Thread MCT
Thanks for the kind words Ryan.  It am sure it will get sold eventually.


Matt

On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 8:22:19 PM UTC-6, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> Matt, 
> You stated that it has slightly different measurements than some of the 
> geometry stated on Riv’s charts.  I actually like that Grant and company 
> made modifications/adjustments/improvements to many of their models over 
> the years.   
> However your measurements (although probably accurate). Oils be part of 
> the problem. 
> I bought Reid’s 65cm as a graduation ‍ present for my son, and can 
> attest for it being to long for Reid.  It nearly matched the 67 Homer I 
> have it top tube length.  Reid’s was 62 or 63 cm which is almost 2 inches 
> longer that the 58cm you measure yours at. 
> You need a long legged but short armed drop bar rider potentially. 
> I will attest that both of my Homers had a golden ride quality to them. 
>  Worth a gamble for someone but maybe a very small audience.  Also yours 
> appears in amazing shape which is good if the “new” owner values that but 
> it comes with your slightly higher asking price.  Which I also think it is 
> worth for the record.  It is almost identical as the NIB prices for the MIT 
> Atlantis and Homer. 
> For the record I would ask $1500 for my 67cmHomer F/F/HS/BB if I ever 
> moved it and would not take a penny less. 
> But I did move my Son’s 65cm to a fellow list member because he wants a 
> Hillibike instead.  So Reid’s has found a new home and has a very happy new 
> owner.  He reached out to me over the same time frame of your listing.  For 
> the record I offered the frame back to Reid before he found the great deal 
> on his Rambouillet .  Be patient.  Timing can be everything and it only 
> takes one buyer. 
>
> Sincerely, 
> Ryan “my $0.02” Hankinson

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-11-05 Thread 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch
Matt,
You stated that it has slightly different measurements than some of the 
geometry stated on Riv’s charts.  I actually like that Grant and company made 
modifications/adjustments/improvements to many of their models over the years.  
However your measurements (although probably accurate). Oils be part of the 
problem.
I bought Reid’s 65cm as a graduation ‍ present for my son, and can attest for 
it being to long for Reid.  It nearly matched the 67 Homer I have it top tube 
length.  Reid’s was 62 or 63 cm which is almost 2 inches longer that the 58cm 
you measure yours at.
You need a long legged but short armed drop bar rider potentially.
I will attest that both of my Homers had a golden ride quality to them.  Worth 
a gamble for someone but maybe a very small audience.  Also yours appears in 
amazing shape which is good if the “new” owner values that but it comes with 
your slightly higher asking price.  Which I also think it is worth for the 
record.  It is almost identical as the NIB prices for the MIT Atlantis and 
Homer.
For the record I would ask $1500 for my 67cmHomer F/F/HS/BB if I ever moved it 
and would not take a penny less.
But I did move my Son’s 65cm to a fellow list member because he wants a 
Hillibike instead.  So Reid’s has found a new home and has a very happy new 
owner.  He reached out to me over the same time frame of your listing.  For the 
record I offered the frame back to Reid before he found the great deal on his 
Rambouillet .  Be patient.  Timing can be everything and it only takes one 
buyer.

Sincerely,
Ryan “my $0.02” Hankinson

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-11-04 Thread John G.
Anyone with a 90cm PBH riding a 65cm Homer?

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-11-04 Thread Julian Westerhout
I have a 67. The MUSA Homer is, for me, a bike that hits the sweet spot. 
Takes bigger tires and is better on unpaved surfaces than the old Ram, and 
is a better unloaded road bike than the MUSA Atlantis. 

It's a great bike -- hopefully there's a tall person out there who will 
commit and enjoy it -- I think $1500 is a fair price. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 




On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 11:44:15 AM UTC-6, MCT wrote:
>
> Bumping it up.  Do all of the tall people already have a Homer?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-11-04 Thread MCT
Bumping it up.  Do all of the tall people already have a Homer?

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-10-25 Thread MCT
I sent you an email through the group.  Let me know if you didn’t get it. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-10-25 Thread John G.
If you have pics of it with a saddle and know the saddle height, I’d love to 
see them.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-10-25 Thread Reid Echols
I had this exact model and size of frame, and can attest to it riding 
beautifully! Mine sold for a bit less than this, so maybe the buyer got a deal, 
but either way it's a lovely frame. I found it a bit long for drops with a 
94pbh. 

Reid in Austin 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-10-25 Thread MCT
Joe. It is raining at my place, but will get some better pics in the sunlight.  
May need that if it heads to EBay. 

Thanks for the feedback everyone.  It has a little bit of a shorter top tube, 
so not as long in the drops than the standard Riv geometry.  

I bought it from Rivendell and has about 600 miles on it, so practically almost 
new. 

Matt

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-10-25 Thread J L
I stand corrected. Thanks Christian! :) 

For added context I prefer to ride a bike with as little stand over clearance 
as possible, sometimes negative clearance.  I actually rounded up my estimate 
thinking others might prefer more room. 

-J

> On Oct 25, 2019, at 11:23 AM, christian poppell  wrote:
> 
> As someone who has a 90cm PBH, I found the 65cm AHH to be a touch large. Riv 
> suggests PBH of around 92-94cm for the MUSA AHH 
> 
> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/Rivendell-2017-Sizing-Chart.png?13527169454130894933
> 
> Christian
> Berkeley, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-10-25 Thread christian poppell
As someone who has a 90cm PBH, I found the 65cm AHH to be a touch large. Riv 
suggests PBH of around 92-94cm for the MUSA AHH 

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/Rivendell-2017-Sizing-Chart.png?13527169454130894933

Christian
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-10-25 Thread J L
John G wrote “ PBH, or saddle height?”

Thanks for the clarifying question. This bike should fit someone with an 87-90 
PBH. I say this estimate based on experience and knowledge of the fit for 
Rivendell bikes on this era. I’m sure there is a geometry chart someplace as 
well. A person outside of that size range may find a way to fit it and enjoy 
the ride as well. 

IIRC The AHH was made as large as a (rare) 72cm frame. So this big bike isn’t 
even the biggest. That said, other factors influence fit, shoe choice, 
flexibility, aesthetics, etc. just to name a variety. 

This particular bike is about 10cm too big for me, ha!, but there might be some 
tall folks who want a nice riding road bike with room for big tires and classic 
looks.

Cheers
Jason

> On Oct 25, 2019, at 10:45 AM, John G.  wrote:
> 
> 88-ish PBH, or saddle height?
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-10-25 Thread John G.
88-ish PBH, or saddle height?

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

2019-10-25 Thread J L


For those who are not sure about clicking a link to view pics. This is a rare 
single top tube model in light blue with a cream head tube. A very nice looking 
bike for someone with an 88 ish PBH. 


> On Oct 25, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Not my size but that's a nice frame someone should buy. Can you maybe do new 
> pics in brighter light? The ones you have really underplay how sharp that 
> color looks in real life. 
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