Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-30 Thread Joe Bernard
I always take tools and a pump with me when I drive it. And sometimes a folding 
bike ;)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread Jim Bronson
I had a co-worker of a family member giving me a ride to the start of the
Houston-Austin MS150 a few years back and when he saw people pumping up
tires with a floor pump he asked why people would do that at all given the
existence of CO2 cartridges.

*facepalm*

I didn't really give him any negative feedback as he had been kind enough
to let me stay at his house while I was in the Houston area, and there
wasn't really time to explain as I was about to get out of the car.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote:

 I stopped one day to help a couple of guys who were asking for a C02
 chuck.  I told them I didn't have a chuck but offered them my frame pump
 and they just waved me off, saying they would wait for the rest of their
 group.  I don't think they knew how to use it.

 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the
 side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches
 unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been
 ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand
 pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from
 him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of
 the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my
 tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire.
 Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has,
 so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated
 anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on.

 I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.

 Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away
 from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs
 on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I’d
 had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a
 great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
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Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread Joe Bernard
It's a Fiat 500C Abarth now, which is a decent 'best of both worlds' 
alternative for me. But we're off topic... ;)

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 7:14:13 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subie WRX... best of both worlds!

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 *I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.*

 It's what happens when you want *that* bike, and *these* are the roads 
 you ride: You go for the ride, and deal with the consequences later. I went 
 through the car equivalent of this with a snazzy used Porsche Boxster S ten 
 years ago. It was great fun, but the maintenance was ridiculously 
 expensive, and that was when it was *running.* I finally succumbed to 
 the realities of the actual driving I was actually doing and bought a Honda 
 Civic :)


 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 3:31:47 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the 
 side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches 
 unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been 
 ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand 
 pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from 
 him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of 
 the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my 
 tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire. 
 Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has, 
 so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated 
 anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on.

 I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.

 Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve 
 away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado 
 Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have 
 if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. 
 What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad! 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread Jim Bronson
Fix It Again, Tony

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a Fiat 500C Abarth now, which is a decent 'best of both worlds'
 alternative for me. But we're off topic... ;)

 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 7:14:13 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subie WRX... best of both worlds!

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com wrote:

 *I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.*

 It's what happens when you want *that* bike, and *these* are the roads
 you ride: You go for the ride, and deal with the consequences later. I went
 through the car equivalent of this with a snazzy used Porsche Boxster S ten
 years ago. It was great fun, but the maintenance was ridiculously
 expensive, and that was when it was *running.* I finally succumbed to
 the realities of the actual driving I was actually doing and bought a Honda
 Civic :)


 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 3:31:47 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the
 side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches
 unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been
 ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand
 pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from
 him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of
 the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my
 tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire.
 Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has,
 so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn’t be inflated
 anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on.

 I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.

 Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve
 away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado
 Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have
 if I’d had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride.
 What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*

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Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Mc
I know around here (and likely elsewhere), the big thing are supported 
rides - people get used to a car or truck having everything they need - 
besides, they paid for it.  Probably even more so makes them feel like 
junior TDF - they're used to having a pit crew

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 8:47:45 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Seems like shops would encourage everyone to have a pump. $30-50 for each 
 rider ain't a bad day's income!


  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-29 Thread cyclotourist
Seems like shops would encourage everyone to have a pump. $30-50 for each
rider ain't a bad day's income!

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:56 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:

 more than twice I've loaned my pump to roadies on the roadside.  It's
 always a pleasant conversation.  If we get back to the original problem it
 becomes a question of people buying into an image that's being sold,
 compounded by peer pressure, since the lion's share of group rides are
 built around the bike shops doing the selling.


 On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 7:45:22 AM UTC-5, Kobe* wrote:

 That's OK, while I think I could figure it out, I have never used a CO2
 chuck. I probably should get one for a backup to my frame pump.

 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 11:08:31 PM UTC-4, Darin G. wrote:

 I stopped one day to help a couple of guys who were asking for a C02
 chuck.  I told them I didn't have a chuck but offered them my frame pump
 and they just waved me off, saying they would wait for the rest of their
 group.  I don't think they knew how to use it.

 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 4:31:47 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the
 side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches
 unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been
 ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand
 pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from
 him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of
 the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my
 tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire.
 Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has,
 so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn't be inflated
 anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on.

 I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.

 Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve
 away from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado
 Springs on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have
 if I'd had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride.
 What a great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*

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Re: [RBW] Re: Great ride and failure to help

2015-04-28 Thread cyclotourist
Subie WRX... best of both worlds!

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 *I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.*

 It's what happens when you want *that* bike, and *these* are the roads
 you ride: You go for the ride, and deal with the consequences later. I went
 through the car equivalent of this with a snazzy used Porsche Boxster S ten
 years ago. It was great fun, but the maintenance was ridiculously
 expensive, and that was when it was *running.* I finally succumbed to the
 realities of the actual driving I was actually doing and bought a Honda
 Civic :)


 On Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 3:31:47 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I tried. Saw a carbon fiber bike, spandex clad older gentleman at the
 side of the trail, rear wheel off so pulled over. Poor guy had 4-5 patches
 unsealed at the edges with the plastic still on them that had clearly been
 ridden. He was afraid to use his CO2 to find the leak. I offered my hand
 pump, quipping that I had an unlimited supply of air (standing up wind from
 him the whole time so as to survive laundry scents). The air went out of
 the tube almost immediately, so likely a faulty valve. I offered him my
 tube, but it was going to be a squeeze with my 40mm tube in his 25mm tire.
 Then his racing aero rims needed a much longer valve stem than my tube has,
 so my tube (which would have just squeezed in there) couldn't be inflated
 anyway. He gave up and called his wife. I rode on.

 I do not  understand racing kit for practical cycling.

 Still, I got to enjoy a great break along Fountain Creek, on a curve away
 from the noise of the interstate, after a morning down in Colorado Springs
 on an errand. I returned home feeling far better than I would have if I'd
 had my wife drive me there and back, and I got a great 45 mile ride. What a
 great day, despite my failure to help this poor lad!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*

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