Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

2024-01-28 Thread John Bokman 
Great looking bike! Love those Herons...the Barlow Xlights are so nice. 
Transformative.

John

On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 1:38:34 PM UTC-8 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
wrote:

> I haven't given up on this updated tire clearance dream. But for the time 
> being have gone and put more appropriate shoes back onto my Heron. I was 
> able to score some RH 700C x 38 Barlow Pass extra lights off FB market this 
> week. Where I am in south central BC the weather has settled down after 
> that big cold snap and some rain even melted the snow on our local rail 
> trail out to the airport. I fendered up and tried out the new tires. Super 
> plushy! 
>
> [image: IMG_4564_Jan27-24.jpg]
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 9:09:21 AM UTC-8 Chris Dedinsky wrote:
>
>> Jason - I know in my heart that's the smart decision, especially with 
>> regard to the design considerations. It's probably fortuitous that nobody 
>> has gotten in touch with a possible fork as of yet. With any luck, I'll be 
>> distracted with other bike notions sooner than later. 
>>
>> On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 4:07:12 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>> For what it's worth, one of my riding pals runs the 700x38 Rene Herse 
>>> knobbies and they're delightful as well, so if you choose to size down to 
>>> address the issue I don't think you'll be missing out a whole lot.  Plus, 
>>> that keeps the BB height, etc closer to the design values. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 16:44:06 UTC-8 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank you for the kind words! It's really a delightful unit.  

 On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:15:56 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I just want to chime in to say, that’s the sexiest Heron I’ve ever 
> seen. So well done! 落
>
> On Nov 9, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Chris Dedinsky  
> wrote:
>
> Appreciate the threadless insight too Wes. I wouldn't have considered 
> that as an option. Bit I'll keep it in mind as I do a bit more research. 
> Thank you!
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:52:34 AM UTC-8 Wesley wrote:
>
>> Just FYI, you have more choices than you might think with the fork. 
>> If you find a fork you like but the steerer is too long, you can still 
>> use 
>> it!
>>
>> If the upper race can't thread all the way down to the cup, you can 
>> swap your headset for a 1" threadless headset, and screw the top nut not 
>> the fork threads to provide preload to the headset without having to use 
>> the typical internal nut of a treadless headset. This means you can 
>> still 
>> use a quill stem with a threadless headset! I did this recently with a 
>> threaded fork having a vry long steerer in order to get my 
>> handlebars 
>> higher. Happy to provide ics later if that would be helpful.
>> -Wes
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-8 
>> h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:
>>
>>> This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat 
>>> on my Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired 
>>> by 
>>> the recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to 
>>> stuff in a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy 
>>> until the snow falls. Which should be pretty quick here in British 
>>> Columbia's southern interior.
>>>
>>> The fork clearance is decidedly too tight and perhaps irresponsible, 
>>> if not dangerous. I'm gonna keep my fenders on as I'm not sure how long 
>>> this experiment will last. So far a couple of sporting trips back and 
>>> forth 
>>> to work. 
>>>
>>> It has got me thinking though, has anyone out there modified their 
>>> Heron to have more modern Riv tire clearances? In the vein of a Sam 
>>> Hillborne. I was daydreaming about putting a more tolerable fork and 
>>> crimping the chainstays, so I could run up in the +45 range. Although 
>>> the 
>>> rear wheel has much more than a few sheets of paper in clearance and 
>>> the 
>>> irrevesability of crimping makes me nervous. 
>>>
>>> Would love to hear any thoughts on the pro's/con's. And if there are 
>>> any extra hillborne forks out there for a ~57 frame, I may be 
>>> interested. 
>>> If so, I can give specs. I know I should leave a perfectly wonderful 
>>> frameset alone, but I can't help but wonder about it. 
>>>
>>> Here are some pics that make the fit seem even more dramatic on that 
>>> front fork. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4368.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_4363.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_4364.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_4365.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_4366.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

2023-11-13 Thread Chris Dedinsky 
Jason - I know in my heart that's the smart decision, especially with 
regard to the design considerations. It's probably fortuitous that nobody 
has gotten in touch with a possible fork as of yet. With any luck, I'll be 
distracted with other bike notions sooner than later. 

On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 4:07:12 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:

> For what it's worth, one of my riding pals runs the 700x38 Rene Herse 
> knobbies and they're delightful as well, so if you choose to size down to 
> address the issue I don't think you'll be missing out a whole lot.  Plus, 
> that keeps the BB height, etc closer to the design values. 
>
> On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 16:44:06 UTC-8 h...@chrisdedinsky.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the kind words! It's really a delightful unit.  
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:15:56 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just want to chime in to say, that’s the sexiest Heron I’ve ever seen. 
>>> So well done! 落
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Chris Dedinsky  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Appreciate the threadless insight too Wes. I wouldn't have considered 
>>> that as an option. Bit I'll keep it in mind as I do a bit more research. 
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:52:34 AM UTC-8 Wesley wrote:
>>>
 Just FYI, you have more choices than you might think with the fork. If 
 you find a fork you like but the steerer is too long, you can still use it!

 If the upper race can't thread all the way down to the cup, you can 
 swap your headset for a 1" threadless headset, and screw the top nut not 
 the fork threads to provide preload to the headset without having to use 
 the typical internal nut of a treadless headset. This means you can still 
 use a quill stem with a threadless headset! I did this recently with a 
 threaded fork having a vry long steerer in order to get my handlebars 
 higher. Happy to provide ics later if that would be helpful.
 -Wes

 On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-8 
 h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:

> This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on 
> my Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by 
> the 
> recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff 
> in 
> a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the 
> snow falls. Which should be pretty quick here in British Columbia's 
> southern interior.
>
> The fork clearance is decidedly too tight and perhaps irresponsible, 
> if not dangerous. I'm gonna keep my fenders on as I'm not sure how long 
> this experiment will last. So far a couple of sporting trips back and 
> forth 
> to work. 
>
> It has got me thinking though, has anyone out there modified their 
> Heron to have more modern Riv tire clearances? In the vein of a Sam 
> Hillborne. I was daydreaming about putting a more tolerable fork and 
> crimping the chainstays, so I could run up in the +45 range. Although the 
> rear wheel has much more than a few sheets of paper in clearance and the 
> irrevesability of crimping makes me nervous. 
>
> Would love to hear any thoughts on the pro's/con's. And if there are 
> any extra hillborne forks out there for a ~57 frame, I may be interested. 
> If so, I can give specs. I know I should leave a perfectly wonderful 
> frameset alone, but I can't help but wonder about it. 
>
> Here are some pics that make the fit seem even more dramatic on that 
> front fork. 
>
> [image: IMG_4368.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4363.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4364.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4365.jpg]
> [image: IMG_4366.jpg]
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

2023-11-12 Thread Jason Fuller 
For what it's worth, one of my riding pals runs the 700x38 Rene Herse 
knobbies and they're delightful as well, so if you choose to size down to 
address the issue I don't think you'll be missing out a whole lot.  Plus, 
that keeps the BB height, etc closer to the design values. 

On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 16:44:06 UTC-8 h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:

> Thank you for the kind words! It's really a delightful unit.  
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:15:56 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I just want to chime in to say, that’s the sexiest Heron I’ve ever seen. 
>> So well done! 落
>>
>> On Nov 9, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Chris Dedinsky  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Appreciate the threadless insight too Wes. I wouldn't have considered 
>> that as an option. Bit I'll keep it in mind as I do a bit more research. 
>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:52:34 AM UTC-8 Wesley wrote:
>>
>>> Just FYI, you have more choices than you might think with the fork. If 
>>> you find a fork you like but the steerer is too long, you can still use it!
>>>
>>> If the upper race can't thread all the way down to the cup, you can swap 
>>> your headset for a 1" threadless headset, and screw the top nut not the 
>>> fork threads to provide preload to the headset without having to use the 
>>> typical internal nut of a treadless headset. This means you can still use a 
>>> quill stem with a threadless headset! I did this recently with a threaded 
>>> fork having a vry long steerer in order to get my handlebars higher. 
>>> Happy to provide ics later if that would be helpful.
>>> -Wes
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-8 
>>> h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:
>>>
 This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on 
 my Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by 
 the 
 recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff 
 in 
 a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the 
 snow falls. Which should be pretty quick here in British Columbia's 
 southern interior.

 The fork clearance is decidedly too tight and perhaps irresponsible, if 
 not dangerous. I'm gonna keep my fenders on as I'm not sure how long this 
 experiment will last. So far a couple of sporting trips back and forth to 
 work. 

 It has got me thinking though, has anyone out there modified their 
 Heron to have more modern Riv tire clearances? In the vein of a Sam 
 Hillborne. I was daydreaming about putting a more tolerable fork and 
 crimping the chainstays, so I could run up in the +45 range. Although the 
 rear wheel has much more than a few sheets of paper in clearance and the 
 irrevesability of crimping makes me nervous. 

 Would love to hear any thoughts on the pro's/con's. And if there are 
 any extra hillborne forks out there for a ~57 frame, I may be interested. 
 If so, I can give specs. I know I should leave a perfectly wonderful 
 frameset alone, but I can't help but wonder about it. 

 Here are some pics that make the fit seem even more dramatic on that 
 front fork. 

 [image: IMG_4368.jpg]
 [image: IMG_4363.jpg]
 [image: IMG_4364.jpg]
 [image: IMG_4365.jpg]
 [image: IMG_4366.jpg]

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

2023-11-09 Thread Chris Dedinsky 
Thank you for the kind words! It's really a delightful unit.  

On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 4:15:56 PM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> I just want to chime in to say, that’s the sexiest Heron I’ve ever seen. 
> So well done! 落
>
> On Nov 9, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Chris Dedinsky  wrote:
>
> Appreciate the threadless insight too Wes. I wouldn't have considered 
> that as an option. Bit I'll keep it in mind as I do a bit more research. 
> Thank you!
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:52:34 AM UTC-8 Wesley wrote:
>
>> Just FYI, you have more choices than you might think with the fork. If 
>> you find a fork you like but the steerer is too long, you can still use it!
>>
>> If the upper race can't thread all the way down to the cup, you can swap 
>> your headset for a 1" threadless headset, and screw the top nut not the 
>> fork threads to provide preload to the headset without having to use the 
>> typical internal nut of a treadless headset. This means you can still use a 
>> quill stem with a threadless headset! I did this recently with a threaded 
>> fork having a vry long steerer in order to get my handlebars higher. 
>> Happy to provide ics later if that would be helpful.
>> -Wes
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-8 
>> h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:
>>
>>> This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on my 
>>> Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by the 
>>> recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff in 
>>> a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the 
>>> snow falls. Which should be pretty quick here in British Columbia's 
>>> southern interior.
>>>
>>> The fork clearance is decidedly too tight and perhaps irresponsible, if 
>>> not dangerous. I'm gonna keep my fenders on as I'm not sure how long this 
>>> experiment will last. So far a couple of sporting trips back and forth to 
>>> work. 
>>>
>>> It has got me thinking though, has anyone out there modified their Heron 
>>> to have more modern Riv tire clearances? In the vein of a Sam Hillborne. I 
>>> was daydreaming about putting a more tolerable fork and crimping the 
>>> chainstays, so I could run up in the +45 range. Although the rear wheel has 
>>> much more than a few sheets of paper in clearance and the irrevesability of 
>>> crimping makes me nervous. 
>>>
>>> Would love to hear any thoughts on the pro's/con's. And if there are any 
>>> extra hillborne forks out there for a ~57 frame, I may be interested. If 
>>> so, I can give specs. I know I should leave a perfectly wonderful frameset 
>>> alone, but I can't help but wonder about it. 
>>>
>>> Here are some pics that make the fit seem even more dramatic on that 
>>> front fork. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4368.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_4363.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_4364.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_4365.jpg]
>>> [image: IMG_4366.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne fork on a Heron?

2023-11-09 Thread Brian Turner 
I just want to chime in to say, that’s the sexiest Heron I’ve ever seen. So well done! 落On Nov 9, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Chris Dedinsky  wrote:Appreciate the threadless insight too Wes. I wouldn't have considered that as an option. Bit I'll keep it in mind as I do a bit more research. Thank you!On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 7:52:34 AM UTC-8 Wesley wrote:Just FYI, you have more choices than you might think with the fork. If you find a fork you like but the steerer is too long, you can still use it!If the upper race can't thread all the way down to the cup, you can swap your headset for a 1" threadless headset, and screw the top nut not the fork threads to provide preload to the headset without having to use the typical internal nut of a treadless headset. This means you can still use a quill stem with a threadless headset! I did this recently with a threaded fork having a vry long steerer in order to get my handlebars higher. Happy to provide ics later if that would be helpful.-WesOn Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 12:22:21 PM UTC-8 h...@chrisdedinsky.com wrote:This week I was commuting home from work on my Heron. I got a flat on my Challenge Strada Bianca 36 tires and on a whim—certainly inspired by the recent 'Rondini' episode of Ron's bikes YouTube episode—decided to stuff in a pair of much too large 700x42 Hurricane Ridge tires to enjoy until the snow falls. Which should be pretty quick here in British Columbia's southern interior.The fork clearance is decidedly too tight and perhaps irresponsible, if not dangerous. I'm gonna keep my fenders on as I'm not sure how long this experiment will last. So far a couple of sporting trips back and forth to work. It has got me thinking though, has anyone out there modified their Heron to have more modern Riv tire clearances? In the vein of a Sam Hillborne. I was daydreaming about putting a more tolerable fork and crimping the chainstays, so I could run up in the +45 range. Although the rear wheel has much more than a few sheets of paper in clearance and the irrevesability of crimping makes me nervous. Would love to hear any thoughts on the pro's/con's. And if there are any extra hillborne forks out there for a ~57 frame, I may be interested. If so, I can give specs. I know I should leave a perfectly wonderful frameset alone, but I can't help but wonder about it. Here are some pics that make the fit seem even more dramatic on that front fork. 



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