Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Front is currently 34t, which the big rear cog has now rendered rather silly for road riding. I'm going to try a 36. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Same question, how many teeth is your front Sugino ring? On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 12:21 PM dougP wrote: > Whooee, that's one big cog! What front ring are you using? I'm loving > the evolution of this bike. Thanks, Joe, for keeping us updated. > > dougP > > On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 7:39:26 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> Microshift Advent rd and 9-speed 11-42 cassette. The shifter showed up >> broken so it's on the way back, I'm faking it with an old Suntour thumbie >> in friction at the moment. The lever throw with this derailer is long so >> I'm getting 8-of-9..close enough 'til the indexer gets here. >> >> On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 8:46:15 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: >> > New pics! I wanted to show something that may be obvious to other >> Sackville users, but was news to me. I had the BaggaBond snugged up tight >> against the saddle and seatpost, which had the dual effects of some leg rub >> and the capacity being a bit squished into the available space. >> > >> > Then it dawned me..Hey! I don't have to do that! I stretched the saddle >> and post straps out to the last hole at the buckle, which moved the bag >> back, then used some velcro straps from Roadrunner bags on the bottom of >> THIS bag (zip-ties work, too) to strap it down to the rack. They're not >> super-tight to the rack, Grant is right that the need to stabilize >> saddlebags is largely overrated: It's either empty and sways a bit, or full >> o' stuff and pressing down on the rack. Great bag! >> > >> > On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 9:10:05 AM UTC-7, Tim Baldwin wrote: >> > > Close enough! That's too nice of a chain to toss for color >> coordinatation. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Whooee, that's one big cog! What front ring are you using? I'm loving the evolution of this bike. Thanks, Joe, for keeping us updated. dougP On Friday, April 26, 2019 at 7:39:26 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Microshift Advent rd and 9-speed 11-42 cassette. The shifter showed up > broken so it's on the way back, I'm faking it with an old Suntour thumbie > in friction at the moment. The lever throw with this derailer is long so > I'm getting 8-of-9..close enough 'til the indexer gets here. > > On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 8:46:15 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > New pics! I wanted to show something that may be obvious to other > Sackville users, but was news to me. I had the BaggaBond snugged up tight > against the saddle and seatpost, which had the dual effects of some leg rub > and the capacity being a bit squished into the available space. > > > > Then it dawned me..Hey! I don't have to do that! I stretched the saddle > and post straps out to the last hole at the buckle, which moved the bag > back, then used some velcro straps from Roadrunner bags on the bottom of > THIS bag (zip-ties work, too) to strap it down to the rack. They're not > super-tight to the rack, Grant is right that the need to stabilize > saddlebags is largely overrated: It's either empty and sways a bit, or full > o' stuff and pressing down on the rack. Great bag! > > > > On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 9:10:05 AM UTC-7, Tim Baldwin wrote: > > > Close enough! That's too nice of a chain to toss for color > coordinatation. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Cerakote. Hashtag #hundredbucks. Agree on the friction, agree on the #dontworryaboutit. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Good feedback! Will try with my medium size which is challenge to use because of my small size Riv frames. On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 11:46 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > New pics! I wanted to show something that may be obvious to other > Sackville users, but was news to me. I had the BaggaBond snugged up tight > against the saddle and seatpost, which had the dual effects of some leg rub > and the capacity being a bit squished into the available space. > > Then it dawned me..Hey! I don't have to do that! I stretched the saddle > and post straps out to the last hole at the buckle, which moved the bag > back, then used some velcro straps from Roadrunner bags on the bottom of > THIS bag (zip-ties work, too) to strap it down to the rack. They're not > super-tight to the rack, Grant is right that the need to stabilize > saddlebags is largely overrated: It's either empty and sways a bit, or full > o' stuff and pressing down on the rack. Great bag! > > On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 9:10:05 AM UTC-7, Tim Baldwin wrote: > > Close enough! That's too nice of a chain to toss for color > coordinatation. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Close enough! That's too nice of a chain to toss for color coordinatation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Almost. The cassette and derailer will be black, but I'm running a shiny new nickel Wipperman Connex chain so it'll be a good while before I can pop a black one in there. It was supposed to look good with the silver/black XT derailer..oops! On Wed, Apr 17, 2019, 8:29 AM Tim Baldwin wrote: > Will the Microshift drivetrain give you a black cassette and chain? Then > you could have a sweet stealth drive train. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/KG7b7aSXIvg/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Will the Microshift drivetrain give you a black cassette and chain? Then you could have a sweet stealth drive train. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
I love the bag. I keep all the permanents - tools, patch kit, mini pump, tube - in the front Trunksack and use the Jones bag for phone, wallet, readers, keys and snacks. It's super handy, plus I love the bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Hiey Joe, I've been enjoying following the evolution of your Atlantis. Keep those pictures coming! That loop bag is so perfect for nuts/candies/blueberries/snack bar/or any stuff one keeps reaching for on a cruise. On Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:13:49 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The blackout is complete. Origin8 stem (I wimped out on the V-O over fear > the length wouldn't work out after spending all that cash), Ritchey post, > Paul Chainkeeper and Jones grips. Next is a Microshift wide range 1x > drivetrain, but it'll look the same as this and I've posted enough photos. > Best bike I've ever owned! > > On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 8:43:49 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Oh, "ditched a chain" was my editing mistake, it was going to be > "ditched a chainring" which turned into a different sentence in the post. > Somehow the original attempt ended up at the bottom 臘 > > > > The gearing makes great sense for my generally hilly area. The loop I > rode today (and most days) had plenty of range for up and flat, and I just > coasted at my normal coasting point on the descents. I used to "pedal > through" more on downhills and needed the big ring, but riding singlespeeds > killed that habit. If I need to go faster than the bike is rolling down the > hill, well..why do I need that?! > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Thanks Roberta, I'll give you a call when I sell in 2025! The black fenders and racks were a surprise to me, too. It's a motif which has spread throughout the bike now, but I wouldn't have thought of it myself. James and Candice have excellent taste -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Joe, It's a great looking and great bike. I'm surprised how much I like the black fenders--very understated. One of the first bikes I tested was James's MUSA Atlantis and just LOVED it. It was the bike to convince me to buy a Rivendell. Enjoy for years! And, should you ever want to get rid of it, years down the way, this is my size. :) I hope though that you'll retire with the bike. Roberta On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 6:13:49 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > The blackout is complete. Origin8 stem (I wimped out on the V-O over fear > the length wouldn't work out after spending all that cash), Ritchey post, > Paul Chainkeeper and Jones grips. Next is a Microshift wide range 1x > drivetrain, but it'll look the same as this and I've posted enough photos. > Best bike I've ever owned! > > On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 8:43:49 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Oh, "ditched a chain" was my editing mistake, it was going to be > "ditched a chainring" which turned into a different sentence in the post. > Somehow the original attempt ended up at the bottom 臘 > > > > The gearing makes great sense for my generally hilly area. The loop I > rode today (and most days) had plenty of range for up and flat, and I just > coasted at my normal coasting point on the descents. I used to "pedal > through" more on downhills and needed the big ring, but riding singlespeeds > killed that habit. If I need to go faster than the bike is rolling down the > hill, well..why do I need that?! > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Oh, "ditched a chain" was my editing mistake, it was going to be "ditched a chainring" which turned into a different sentence in the post. Somehow the original attempt ended up at the bottom 臘 The gearing makes great sense for my generally hilly area. The loop I rode today (and most days) had plenty of range for up and flat, and I just coasted at my normal coasting point on the descents. I used to "pedal through" more on downhills and needed the big ring, but riding singlespeeds killed that habit. If I need to go faster than the bike is rolling down the hill, well..why do I need that?! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Joe, thanks for posting the pictures. It is fun to see the evolution of this bike. It is a true sport utility vehicle! I think it is a very practical drive train. Right size chainring. That RD is fantastic. Had it on my 51cm Appa. Question - what do you mean by ditched a chain? On Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:11:51 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Today's version. Jones Loop 710 I got in a trade and hoo boy does it feel > nice on this frame. This is a test run with a threadless stem and quill > adapter I had lying around, I'll be swapping a black V-O 31.8 stem and > black seatpost (thanks Ash!) to finish the blackout treatment. > > I ditched the big ring and fd, still gotta pull the left shifter > and add long Jones grips. > > Observe my shiny new Sackville BaggaBond full o' groceries. As much as I > love buying/selling/trading, this really is all the bike you need. As Bill > says, it's perfect! > > I ditched a chain > > On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 8:59:11 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > "It'll work if you friction shift it." > > > > True, and I'm already there. I swapped that cockpit out and ended up > with an old 7-speed Suntour thumbie set to friction cuz that's what I had > around. Turns out it shifts better than the 9-speed in index so I'm good to > go! > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Joe, thanks for posting the pictures. It is fun to see the evolution of this bike. It is a true sport utility vehicle! On Thursday, 11 April 2019 15:11:51 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Today's version. Jones Loop 710 I got in a trade and hoo boy does it feel > nice on this frame. This is a test run with a threadless stem and quill > adapter I had lying around, I'll be swapping a black V-O 31.8 stem and > black seatpost (thanks Ash!) to finish the blackout treatment. > > I ditched the big ring and fd, still gotta pull the left shifter > and add long Jones grips. > > Observe my shiny new Sackville BaggaBond full o' groceries. As much as I > love buying/selling/trading, this really is all the bike you need. As Bill > says, it's perfect! > > I ditched a chain > > On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 8:59:11 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > "It'll work if you friction shift it." > > > > True, and I'm already there. I swapped that cockpit out and ended up > with an old 7-speed Suntour thumbie set to friction cuz that's what I had > around. Turns out it shifts better than the 9-speed in index so I'm good to > go! > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Yes, I noticed it on the clear ones I had, but I'm not much of a rain rider. I ordered black this time because the clear looks terrible on black bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
The long Jones grips really make an already awesome bar even better. I haven't used the black grips but the clear ones can get pretty slick when they are wet. Something to keep in mind if this is an all-weather bike. On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 5:11:51 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Today's version. Jones Loop 710 I got in a trade and hoo boy does it feel > nice on this frame. This is a test run with a threadless stem and quill > adapter I had lying around, I'll be swapping a black V-O 31.8 stem and > black seatpost (thanks Ash!) to finish the blackout treatment. > > I ditched the big ring and fd, still gotta pull the left shifter > and add long Jones grips. > > Observe my shiny new Sackville BaggaBond full o' groceries. As much as I > love buying/selling/trading, this really is all the bike you need. As Bill > says, it's perfect! > > I ditched a chain > > On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 8:59:11 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > "It'll work if you friction shift it." > > > > True, and I'm already there. I swapped that cockpit out and ended up > with an old 7-speed Suntour thumbie set to friction cuz that's what I had > around. Turns out it shifts better than the 9-speed in index so I'm good to > go! > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Oops, editing fail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
"It'll work if you friction shift it." True, and I'm already there. I swapped that cockpit out and ended up with an old 7-speed Suntour thumbie set to friction cuz that's what I had around. Turns out it shifts better than the 9-speed in index so I'm good to go! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
It'll work if you friction shift it. -james On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 1:05:44 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Shoot, I don't think the Microshift idea is going to work. I assumed it > would work with the Shimano 9-speed bar-end, but the Advent copy says I'd > need an Advent shifter. No go! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Rust is a scab on steel. With high quality steel, you'd have to really work at it to rust it out. This stem has been treated with Ospho, and that neutralizes the rust. Sure, in 100 years, it might be an issue. But the tubing is 2mm thick, it's not going anywhere any time soon. People ride scratched steel frames with tubes that are .5mm thick, and they're generally fine for years. New iterations of the stem will be black cerakoted or clear cerakoted. Working on that now. -james On Saturday, April 6, 2019 at 2:40:48 AM UTC-4, Hetchins52 wrote: > > Looks great with the new stem and bars and glad to hear that they are more > comfortable! > > I always find raw steel stems to be jarring to look at. Kinda > fingernails-on-a-blackboard. > And, I can't help but think, 'Rust Never Sleeps!" > > David Lipsky > Berkeley > > On Friday, April 5, 2019 at 3:17:22 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> New plan. It looks less wild (and more silver) now, but I gave in to the >> more familiar and comfy for my wrists V-O Milan cockpit with Ergon grips. >> That motorcycle-style position just works for me..I feel more in control. >> I'm going to pop the flared drops on my XO-1 and hit the trails they were >> designed for. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Around where I live and the roads/trails I ride on, only once in several days do I see someone actually using the drops. They all mostly use hoods, corners or the flats. Many alt bars offer equivalent of those 3 positions, plus the upright position when I want to take it easy, see the world around and cruise. On Saturday, 6 April 2019 05:50:55 UTC-7, Todd Porter wrote: > > I agree with Ash's take. I have billie bars on my Homer, and the position > just in front of the brake levers feels like holding the bars just behind > the hoods on drops-which is mostly where i kept my hands when i rode drops; > however, if i want to sit up more, holding the grips is way more > comfortable than the flats on drop bars. Back to the main topic, Joe's new > bars look quite comfortable. Rivs do look great with a wide variety of > bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
I agree with Ash's take. I have billie bars on my Homer, and the position just in front of the brake levers feels like holding the bars just behind the hoods on drops-which is mostly where i kept my hands when i rode drops; however, if i want to sit up more, holding the grips is way more comfortable than the flats on drop bars. Back to the main topic, Joe's new bars look quite comfortable. Rivs do look great with a wide variety of bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
It's better to burn out than it is to rust! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Looks great with the new stem and bars and glad to hear that they are more comfortable! I always find raw steel stems to be jarring to look at. Kinda fingernails-on-a-blackboard. And, I can't help but think, 'Rust Never Sleeps!" David Lipsky Berkeley On Friday, April 5, 2019 at 3:17:22 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > New plan. It looks less wild (and more silver) now, but I gave in to the > more familiar and comfy for my wrists V-O Milan cockpit with Ergon grips. > That motorcycle-style position just works for me..I feel more in control. > I'm going to pop the flared drops on my XO-1 and hit the trails they were > designed for. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Certain alt bars essentially offer an enhanced (more comfortable/ergonomic) hood position :) On Friday, 5 April 2019 16:16:46 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Thanks, Jeff! Yeah I think it looks better, and it sure feels better. On > today's ride I was able to focus on the rest of the bike because I wasn't > concentrating on finding comfortable hand positions. I'm a hoods rider and > the RM-3 is clearly designed to be ridden in the drops. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Thanks, Jeff! Yeah I think it looks better, and it sure feels better. On today's ride I was able to focus on the rest of the bike because I wasn't concentrating on finding comfortable hand positions. I'm a hoods rider and the RM-3 is clearly designed to be ridden in the drops. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
My favorite iteration. Looks like it was born that way. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Friday, April 5, 2019 at 3:17:22 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > New plan. It looks less wild (and more silver) now, but I gave in to the > more familiar and comfy for my wrists V-O Milan cockpit with Ergon grips. > That motorcycle-style position just works for me..I feel more in control. > I'm going to pop the flared drops on my XO-1 and hit the trails they were > designed for. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Shoot, I don't think the Microshift idea is going to work. I assumed it would work with the Shimano 9-speed bar-end, but the Advent copy says I'd need an Advent shifter. No go! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Get the Atlantis now and GBW later! Personally I think the Atlantis looks better, but I didn't buy it for GBW-ish riding, either..it's mostly going to see road duty. If you want those newfangled "plus" tires for the dirt, Gus'll do ya. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
If I keep on looking at your MIT Atlantis, I may end up buying a size 50 Atlantis instead of my planned small GWB :-) Nice bike :-) On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 11:37 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > Yes, B Secula. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Yes, B Secula. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Thanks Joe for the feedback on the fender light. I assume that its a B I recently removed my rear rack on my Hunqapillar and replaced it with my Carradice Original Bagman Support - Expedition. This resulted to loosing my Dyno B Rack-mount ( https://www.rivbike.com/collections/lights/products/dyno-rack-light). At the same time the Carradice Bagman will not allow me to move my rear light to my saddle so the only solution is to purchase a fender mounted Dyno rear light. Thanks again. On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 11:22 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > Ed, > > I love the fender light. I'm kinda surprised how much I like having dyno > lights front and back; I rarely ride at night (the bike came like this) but > it's been cloudy here, and I've quickly warmed up to the idea that daytime > running lights are a good thing to have. > > Here's a pic of the headlight, it's mounted to a Nitto Lampholder on a > strut. > > On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 6:46:49 PM UTC-7, ed wrote: > > Hi Joe, how do you find the fender installed rear light? Where did you > mount the headlight? > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 8:54 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > > Bars back up and level where Candice had them. Because she obviously > knew what she was doing and I tried to "fix" it! The bar/levers is getting > more comfortable, and I love the shifter location, but two things gotta go: > The shellacked hard-as-rock tape that cuts right through my gloves, and > that dang front shifter. I think I'm going to try the wide-range 1x > Microshift Advent cassette/derailer..it'll be a step down in parts, but > I've lost all interest in moving chains and derailers around up front. > > > > > > > > Great bike! > > > > > > > > On Saturday, March 30, 2019 at 11:40:40 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > > > > Jandrews: I get 46cm C-to-C at the midpoint of the curves, 60cm > end-to-end. > > > > > > > > > > I had a 46cm Noodle years ago which felt WDE for my short arms, > this bar is nothing like that. You'll get the width in the drops - which I > understand is where most folks ride these - but the inward angle is a > markedly different sensation. Up top is reminiscent of a Nitto Randonneur > bar I had: the flats/hoods situation feels narrow compared to the flared > part. > > > > > > > > > > The end result is if you're into 46 Noodles this will feel like a > narrower bar, especially on the hoods. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. > > > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Hi Joe, how do you find the fender installed rear light? Where did you mount the headlight? On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 8:54 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > Bars back up and level where Candice had them. Because she obviously knew > what she was doing and I tried to "fix" it! The bar/levers is getting more > comfortable, and I love the shifter location, but two things gotta go: The > shellacked hard-as-rock tape that cuts right through my gloves, and that > dang front shifter. I think I'm going to try the wide-range 1x Microshift > Advent cassette/derailer..it'll be a step down in parts, but I've lost all > interest in moving chains and derailers around up front. > > Great bike! > > On Saturday, March 30, 2019 at 11:40:40 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Jandrews: I get 46cm C-to-C at the midpoint of the curves, 60cm > end-to-end. > > > > I had a 46cm Noodle years ago which felt WDE for my short arms, this > bar is nothing like that. You'll get the width in the drops - which I > understand is where most folks ride these - but the inward angle is a > markedly different sensation. Up top is reminiscent of a Nitto Randonneur > bar I had: the flats/hoods situation feels narrow compared to the flared > part. > > > > The end result is if you're into 46 Noodles this will feel like a > narrower bar, especially on the hoods. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Jandrews: I get 46cm C-to-C at the midpoint of the curves, 60cm end-to-end. I had a 46cm Noodle years ago which felt WDE for my short arms, this bar is nothing like that. You'll get the width in the drops - which I understand is where most folks ride these - but the inward angle is a markedly different sensation. Up top is reminiscent of a Nitto Randonneur bar I had: the flats/hoods situation feels narrow compared to the flared part. The end result is if you're into 46 Noodles this will feel like a narrower bar, especially on the hoods. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Hey Joe Congrats on the Atlantis Regarding those bars, from my limited research, I seem to recall there being two versions in terms of sizing and it’s a bit misleading how wide they really are. Can you give a sense of how wide these are at the drops and at the ends? Can you compare to, say a 46 noodle? Thinking of getting a 25.4 clamp version of this on a very short stem for my new Appaloosa build Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
HI Joe, Yes, it is 26.8 - I had used this with my MIT Atlantis frame for that blacked out build. On Thursday, 28 March 2019 15:24:18 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Hi Ash, isn't it cool?! > > No decent ride report yet, my schedule filled up with all the things > today. > > Pedals are Deity Black Kat, they're huge! > > Is your black post 26.8? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
An interesting side note about the guy who was admiring my bike: "Atlantis, I've never heard of them." 'Oh, it's made by Rivendell in Walnut Creek, Atlantis is the model of bike.' ".." I really wish Riv would put "Rivendell" in small font on the toptube like early Bridgestones. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Hi Mark, Yes the handling is the same, there's hardly any weight in the bag. The 'walking speed tiller effect' is quite minimal, and possibly a result of the tire and slack angle as much as the stem. It's not there at all with hands forward where a short-reach stem clamp would be. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Hey Joe, Glad to hear the shakedown ride went so well, and that you’re really enjoying the new wheels! I love my new-to-me Atlantis, but I’m in the process of figuring out a new drop bar cockpit (current is with Bosco bars on a 110mm stem), and because of the long top tube, I’ll need a pretty short stem too. I don’t think I’ll go 0mm stem, but am looking at a 30 or 50mm stem. The ultra-short reach stem goes against everything my brain says should work, so it’s encouraging to hear that your experience is so positive after a quick initial adjustment. Did you find that the handling with the short stem was the same with or without a load on the front? ~Mark > On Mar 29, 2019, at 18:12, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Pics from today, fully bebagged. > >> On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 3:10:57 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: >> Update after actual semi-decent time in the saddle: It's awesome! >> >> The bars set dead level didn't work, they're in a more common dropbar >> position now and it felt great. My hands are a little sore, but I haven't >> been riding much and this is new, so that's going to happen no matter what. >> >> The 0° stem has a bit of tiller effect at walking speed when gripping the >> flats, no doubt exacerbated by the front rack and bag. It was invisible >> after a half hour though, and not there at all at speed. >> >> Wow I'm REALLY not into front derailers anymore. This will eventually be a >> 1x with a wide range cassette. >> >> An older (my age) fellow at the post office seemed ready to buy this exact >> one on the spot. He wasn't a cyclist, but he moved from the paint to the >> gold bits to the dynohub like he'd just discovered beautiful bicycles for >> the first time. That was fun! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Hi Ash, isn't it cool?! No decent ride report yet, my schedule filled up with all the things today. Pedals are Deity Black Kat, they're huge! Is your black post 26.8? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
I really would love a ride report of the stem. The build looks great and thanks for sharing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
What an eclectic build! Never seen an Atlantis like this before. The cockpit is weird, but seems very functional. Which pedal is that? Hope this bike stays weird! PS: I've got a black Shimano seat post if you'd like to go all black.. On Thursday, 28 March 2019 09:42:09 UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I'm back to the black Suginos for now. They fit, look nice, and I need to > stop fiddling and ride the dang thing! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
I'm back to the black Suginos for now. They fit, look nice, and I need to stop fiddling and ride the dang thing! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: I got a MIT Atlantis
Silver cranks w/ black chainrings (or at least the outer) might look nice... Doug On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:25 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > Good point, Doug, I have a couple all-silver cranks on other bikes. I may > do some swapping around among silvers cuz I'd like to use the black one on > my Seven. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
