Re: [RBW] Re: Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

2012-10-08 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I'm 5' 7" and normally use 42 cm bars, but I got the 45 cm Rando and they
feel good. I couldn't recommend them for people who prefer wider bars, but
I guess it works just fine for Pete, so as always YMMV.

Toshi


On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Peter Pesce  wrote:

> I actually have both 46 Noodles and 45 Randos. Surprisingly, even though
> I'm 6'3" I find the Randos more comfortable despite their being only 38cm
> at the hoods. Go figure. I use the drops less than 1% of the time, so I
> can't really comment. Also I ride almost 100% paved road, but I can see the
> wider bar being a big help off-road.
>
> Pete in CT
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Opinions on Nitto 177 Noodle vs. Nitto B-135/136 Randonneur?

2012-10-07 Thread Stonehog
I have tried Noodles in 46 and 42, Rando 45cm B135, and a B115 that was 38 or 
39. I have small hands and my shoulders are about 46cm (according to my 
daughter's measurement). I found the following:

1. I felt the ramps interfered/bumped my forearms when I was in the drops of 
the 46's.
2. The Randos fit better, but I couldn't use the top flats as they turned my 
arms too inward.
3. The B115s were nice - did a 200k with no discomfort - but they are from an 
older Soma eighties road bike and were a bit scuffed, so the trust wasn't 
there. 
4. Replaced them with 42 Noodles. So far they are great. I like a deep drop as 
I only use it when I have a headwind.  In those cases , the lower the better. 

I also tried a Gary dirt-drop style bar briefly, but it was too wide, and the 
drops were too angled for me. 

Mobile Brian Hanson

On Oct 7, 2012, at 2:11 PM, "Bill M."  wrote:

> I've had both Noodles (42 cm) and 135 Rando's for many years.  Be aware that 
> the width of the 135's is measured at the ends of the drops.  They measure 38 
> cm at the brake levers.  My Noodles are 42 at the levers, 43 at the drops.  
> If you like the 46 Noodles, you'll likely find the Rando's way too narrow.  
> 
> That said, the 135's ramps and drops are both very comfortable.  I think they 
> are at their best when set high enough that the drops are viable for long 
> distance cruising and short, sharp climbs.  I have the Rando's on my 
> commuter, and find the narrow hoods to be fine, but I find anything over a 42 
> cm drop bar to be too wide.  
> 
> If you want to try a bar with a bit more flare, consider the Salsa Cowbell.  
> It only comes in 31.8 mm and black, but It has a very nice flare to the 
> drops. 
> 
> Bill
> 
> On Saturday, October 6, 2012 6:45:36 PM UTC-7, rw1911 wrote:
>> 
>> Somewhat related, but without hijacking the below "Drop Bar 
>> Suggestions" thread... 
>> 
>> I have 46cm Noodles on two bikes.  I like them fine but wonder if 
>> there is something to the flaring on the Randonneur.  (hand 
>> position(s) and long ride comfort) 
>> 
>> If you stand relaxed with your eyes closed and place your arms in 
>> front of you, you'll notice that your hands are angled in a bit. (at 
>> least mine are)  With this, it would seem that the flaring of the 
>> Randonneur would provide a more natural hand position.  I wonder if 
>> this is true in real life? 
>> 
>> B-177 Noddle (46, 26.0) reach of 95 mm C-C and drop of 140 mm C-C 
>> B-135 Rando (45, 25.4)  reach of 105 mm C-C and a drop of 120 mm C-C 
>> B-136 Rando (44, 26.0) reach of 110 mm C-C and a drop of 125 C-C. 
>> While 1 cm narrower than the B-135, the specs I'm looking at show that 
>> the hoods would be 1 cm wider than the B-135, indicating more flare? 
>> 
>> Can anyone comment with their real-world experience using both (all 
>> three) bars?
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