Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Dave, those look nice.  If I don’t like the MKS I have coming I will look
at these.  Wet riding would not be an issue for me and I like the short
pins.

Thank you

Joel
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 12:57 PM 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> I'm a fan of VO's Sabot.  It has a large platform (100mm by 100mm, IIRC),
> is aluminum and silver, and has shortish rounded pins for grip.  The pins
> don't rip up my shoes, but they also don't grip well when the pedal's wet.
> That last bit is their one downside, but it's a price I'm willing to pay
> for pins that don't chew up my soles.
>
> Dave
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Daniel.  I have always been happy with MKS pedals.  I ordered a
couple of pair yesterday.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 11:30 AM Daniel M  wrote:

> I have VP platforms on a number of bikes and like them for light use but
> would never again use them for touring. The bearings that VP use are of a
> lower quality than those used by MKS (I think it has to do with the outer
> being a bushing with a plastic sleeve or something). Either way, I've had
> VP bearings fail in the field, not quite catastrophically but really,
> really annoyingly, and I've read reports of people who really liked the
> large platform of the Catalyst pedal switch to something else because of
> bearing failure.
>
> Whether it's the Sneaker Pedal or the Grip King or whatever it's called,
> you can feel instantly that MKS uses a higher quality bearing. I've settled
> on the platform pedals sold by Rene Herse:
>
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/pedals/mks-allways-pedals/
>
> I don't mean to identify with a particular brand or bash another, but
> riding unsupported in Death Valley for days with a wobbling pedal is not
> something I wish to repeat.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Daniel M]

I have VP platforms on a number of bikes and like them for light use but would 
never again use them for touring. The bearings that VP use are of a lower 
quality than those used by MKS (I think it has to do with the outer being a 
bushing with a plastic sleeve or something). Either way, I've had VP bearings 
fail in the field, not quite catastrophically but really, really annoyingly, 
and I've read reports of people who really liked the large platform of the 
Catalyst pedal switch to something else because of bearing failure.

Whether it's the Sneaker Pedal or the Grip King or whatever it's called, you 
can feel instantly that MKS uses a higher quality bearing. I've settled on the 
platform pedals sold by Rene Herse: 

https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/pedals/mks-allways-pedals/

I don't mean to identify with a particular brand or bash another, but riding 
unsupported in Death Valley for days with a wobbling pedal is not something I 
wish to repeat.

Daniel M
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel S]

Gamma. W78×L118.  

On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 10:20:09 PM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Joe,
>
> MKS Lambda-Monarch/formerly GripKing pedal
>
> The platform itself is 4 1/2” long by 3” wide = 114.3 x 76.2 mm (Which is 
> different from the GripKing!)
>
> David Lipsky
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 6:12:54 AM UTC-8 Joel S wrote:
>
>> David, how big are these?  I have been using the MKS touring (rat trap) 
>> pedal and would like a larger footprint, not sure how much larger though.  
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 12:32 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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>>> How about the MKS Grip Monarch that Rivendell sells? I've been riding a 
>>> pair for most of this year and like them a lot. Big, roomy and grippy.
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedals-mks-new-2018
>>> They have reflectors but are protected from damage and I believe that 
>>> they can each be popped out by releasing the two expanding tabs.
>>>
>>> David Lipsky
>>> Berkeley, CA 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 4:11:43 PM UTC-8, Joel S wrote:

 All riding is on blacktop, just want a larger footprint.  Don’t want a 
 plastic or rubber pedal.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe,

MKS Lambda-Monarch/formerly GripKing pedal

The platform itself is 4 1/2” long by 3” wide = 114.3 x 76.2 mm (Which is 
different from the GripKing!)

David Lipsky
On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 6:12:54 AM UTC-8 Joel S wrote:

> David, how big are these?  I have been using the MKS touring (rat trap) 
> pedal and would like a larger footprint, not sure how much larger though.  
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 12:32 AM 'Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> How about the MKS Grip Monarch that Rivendell sells? I've been riding a 
>> pair for most of this year and like them a lot. Big, roomy and grippy.
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedals-mks-new-2018
>> They have reflectors but are protected from damage and I believe that 
>> they can each be popped out by releasing the two expanding tabs.
>>
>> David Lipsky
>> Berkeley, CA 
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 4:11:43 PM UTC-8, Joel S wrote:
>>>
>>> All riding is on blacktop, just want a larger footprint.  Don’t want a 
>>> plastic or rubber pedal.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Michael Morrissey]

The only thing bad about the VP Vice is sometimes they tear up your shoes. 
Don't wear nice shoes with them!! I learned that the hard way.

On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:24:37 PM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> VP Vice all the way! They're thinner so essentially lower your bottom 
> bracket or center of gravity a little more than you'd expect. Very nice.
>
> I haven't tried the others though. The Speedplays look nice! VP Vice are 
> generally expensive but I found some on eBay for $40 or so a pair. I think 
> I have bought 5 pairs of them.
>
> m
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 8:13:19 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
>> I am fully converted to the MKS Monarch / Lambda now.  They were a tad 
>> strange feeling at first with the curved ends, but you get used to that and 
>> the grip and support is wonderful, especially it's boot season here now.  I 
>> love the Chromag Scarab pedals as well but they are $$$ (I have them on my 
>> proper mtn bike) 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Michael Morrissey]

VP Vice all the way! They're thinner so essentially lower your bottom 
bracket or center of gravity a little more than you'd expect. Very nice.

I haven't tried the others though. The Speedplays look nice! VP Vice are 
generally expensive but I found some on eBay for $40 or so a pair. I think 
I have bought 5 pairs of them.

m


On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 8:13:19 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I am fully converted to the MKS Monarch / Lambda now.  They were a tad 
> strange feeling at first with the curved ends, but you get used to that and 
> the grip and support is wonderful, especially it's boot season here now.  I 
> love the Chromag Scarab pedals as well but they are $$$ (I have them on my 
> proper mtn bike) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Jason Fuller]

I am fully converted to the MKS Monarch / Lambda now.  They were a tad 
strange feeling at first with the curved ends, but you get used to that and 
the grip and support is wonderful, especially it's boot season here now.  I 
love the Chromag Scarab pedals as well but they are $$$ (I have them on my 
proper mtn bike) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel S]

I found these today, the older model at a good price and I will try them. 
https://benscycle.vtexassets.com/arquivos/ids/759000-1200-auto?width=1200=auto=true

On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 11:15:40 AM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> Thanks Andrew. I will look at the info on Analog.
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 11:11 AM Andrew Turner  
> wrote:
>
>> I really like my Spank Oozy pedal, and I found a used pair to help with 
>> the cost. They're really nice and big but have tons of negative space and 
>> are wicked thin/light so they don't look clunky even on my 'road' bike. 
>> Analog has tons of literature on flat pedals and these were one of their 
>> approved models so I just followed suit. For something cheaper and less 
>> BRAAPPPie the MKS GripKing and Allways pedals are awesome. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:32:13 AM UTC-6 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Laing
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:45 AM lconley  wrote:
>>>
 I have very wide feet and the MKS grip monarch is narrow where I want 
 it to be wide. I am using Speedplay Drilliums on my Gus Boots Wilsen 
 build. 
 Kind of hard to find, I don't think they are made anymore. Not generally 
 fond of black components, but I love the look of these. Not the lightest 
 pedal around.

 [image: Capture.JPG]

 I also use VO Sabot when the pedal has to be polished silver.

 [image: Capture.JPG]

 I also have several Diety TMACs in several colors. I wish they had a 
 polished model


 [image: Capture.JPG]


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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Andrew. I will look at the info on Analog.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 11:11 AM Andrew Turner 
wrote:

> I really like my Spank Oozy pedal, and I found a used pair to help with
> the cost. They're really nice and big but have tons of negative space and
> are wicked thin/light so they don't look clunky even on my 'road' bike.
> Analog has tons of literature on flat pedals and these were one of their
> approved models so I just followed suit. For something cheaper and less
> BRAAPPPie the MKS GripKing and Allways pedals are awesome.
>
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:32:13 AM UTC-6 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Thanks Laing
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:45 AM lconley  wrote:
>>
>>> I have very wide feet and the MKS grip monarch is narrow where I want it
>>> to be wide. I am using Speedplay Drilliums on my Gus Boots Wilsen build.
>>> Kind of hard to find, I don't think they are made anymore. Not generally
>>> fond of black components, but I love the look of these. Not the lightest
>>> pedal around.
>>>
>>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>>
>>> I also use VO Sabot when the pedal has to be polished silver.
>>>
>>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>>
>>> I also have several Diety TMACs in several colors. I wish they had a
>>> polished model
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>>
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Andrew Turner]

I really like my Spank Oozy pedal, and I found a used pair to help with the 
cost. They're really nice and big but have tons of negative space and are 
wicked thin/light so they don't look clunky even on my 'road' bike. Analog 
has tons of literature on flat pedals and these were one of their approved 
models so I just followed suit. For something cheaper and less BRAAPPPie 
the MKS GripKing and Allways pedals are awesome. 

On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:32:13 AM UTC-6 Joel S wrote:

> Thanks Laing
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:45 AM lconley  wrote:
>
>> I have very wide feet and the MKS grip monarch is narrow where I want it 
>> to be wide. I am using Speedplay Drilliums on my Gus Boots Wilsen build. 
>> Kind of hard to find, I don't think they are made anymore. Not generally 
>> fond of black components, but I love the look of these. Not the lightest 
>> pedal around.
>>
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> I also use VO Sabot when the pedal has to be polished silver.
>>
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>> I also have several Diety TMACs in several colors. I wish they had a 
>> polished model
>>
>>
>> [image: Capture.JPG]
>>
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Laing

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:45 AM lconley  wrote:

> I have very wide feet and the MKS grip monarch is narrow where I want it
> to be wide. I am using Speedplay Drilliums on my Gus Boots Wilsen build.
> Kind of hard to find, I don't think they are made anymore. Not generally
> fond of black components, but I love the look of these. Not the lightest
> pedal around.
>
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> I also use VO Sabot when the pedal has to be polished silver.
>
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
> I also have several Diety TMACs in several colors. I wish they had a
> polished model
>
>
> [image: Capture.JPG]
>
>
> Laing
>
> Delray Beach FL
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[lconley]

I have very wide feet and the MKS grip monarch is narrow where I want it to 
be wide. I am using Speedplay Drilliums on my Gus Boots Wilsen build. Kind 
of hard to find, I don't think they are made anymore. Not generally fond of 
black components, but I love the look of these. Not the lightest pedal 
around.

[image: Capture.JPG]

I also use VO Sabot when the pedal has to be polished silver.

[image: Capture.JPG]

I also have several Diety TMACs in several colors. I wish they had a 
polished model


[image: Capture.JPG]


Laing

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Rich.  The look a bit long but maybe they will be perfect and the
price I’d good from modern.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:31 AM RichS  wrote:

> Joel, I second the Lambda pedals (or the newer Monarch). Five years on and
> the Lambda's are still comfortable and provide good grip.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:15:15 AM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
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>> They do look nice
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:09 AM aeroperf  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

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Joel, I second the Lambda pedals (or the newer Monarch). Five years on and 
the Lambda's are still comfortable and provide good grip. 

Best,
Rich in ATL 

On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 9:15:15 AM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> They do look nice 
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:09 AM aeroperf  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

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They do look nice

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel Stern]

David, how big are these?  I have been using the MKS touring (rat trap)
pedal and would like a larger footprint, not sure how much larger though.

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> How about the MKS Grip Monarch that Rivendell sells? I've been riding a
> pair for most of this year and like them a lot. Big, roomy and grippy.
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedals-mks-new-2018
> They have reflectors but are protected from damage and I believe that they
> can each be popped out by releasing the two expanding tabs.
>
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 4:11:43 PM UTC-8, Joel S wrote:
>>
>> All riding is on blacktop, just want a larger footprint.  Don’t want a
>> plastic or rubber pedal.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Doug, I could not find these Campus pedals to look at.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 7:58 PM dougP  wrote:

> MKS used to make a campus pedal that was aluminum.  Rivendell carried
> them.  My wife has them on her bike & likes them
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel Stern]

https://www.modernbike.com/mks-lambda-platform-pedals-silver


On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 7:56 AM Joel Stern  wrote:

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> Thanks David, I am looking at those.  There is a bit older model that
> looks very similar called the Lambda.
>
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>> How about the MKS Grip Monarch that Rivendell sells? I've been riding a
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>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedals-mks-new-2018
>> They have reflectors but are protected from damage and I believe that
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>>
>> David Lipsky
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Thanks David, I am looking at those.  There is a bit older model that looks
very similar called the Lambda.

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> https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedals-mks-new-2018
> They have reflectors but are protected from damage and I believe that they
> can each be popped out by releasing the two expanding tabs.
>
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Thanks. I’ve seen a few MKS pedals but the reflectors turn me off. I was on
their web page today looking. I’ve used their pedals for years.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 7:58 PM dougP  wrote:

> MKS used to make a campus pedal that was aluminum.  Rivendell carried
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>> Thank
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>> Joel
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