Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[EverRed]

I'll be out of town (touring in France!) but I would love to join any 
future rides.  I see that there are a lot of gravel suggestions.  Are Riv 
group rides generally off road?

John
Black Mountain


On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 11:11:44 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dang! Just my luck... I'll be in Florida the last week of May / first week 
> of June. Still, I look forward to this happening so I can read the ride 
> report and hopefully see some good photos!
>
> -Brian
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
>> first weekend of June.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
 this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
 would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
 link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
 dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
 week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
 from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link 
 to 
 the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka

 Gary

 On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on 
> Melrose St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those 
> roads above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW 
> were my go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I 
> haven't ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still 
> decent riding. 
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also 
>> add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just 
>> north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that 
>> could 
>> follow the Asheville bike routes.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
>>> quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   
>>>
>>> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
>>> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
>>> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 
>>>
>>> Anyone want to weigh in?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
 gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
 date 
 I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like 
 the 
 biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
 probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted 
 to 
 avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.

 On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
> Warning: Long Post.
>
> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, 
> and would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. 
> The 
> Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
> (from 
> 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
> annual 
> visitors. 
>
> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
> were 
> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>
> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
> riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding 
> (Bent 
> Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can 
> be a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the 
> Pisgah 
> National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up 
> to 
> Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Maple Fortress]

Just seeing this. Would love to ride! On an Appaloosa in Boone.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:58:53 PM UTC-4 Carl wrote:

> Thanks Gary, I can participate at least part of that weekend.
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:01:46 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> We've had five folks fill out the doodle scheduling poll (thanks Steve, 
>> Jason, Ky, and Chasen) to try to find a late spring date for a potential 
>> Asheville gathering and the May 12, 13, 14 weekend is best for those who 
>> responded. Does that date work with others who didn't respond? Or should I 
>> throw out some summer and/or early fall dates? 
>> Gary
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
>>> first weekend of June.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?

 On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and 
> created this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in 
> May/June would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click 
> on the link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to 
> select the dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. 
> After about a week, I can post the results and we can either take the 
> planning further from there or else pick different dates and try again. 
>  Here is the link to the poll:  
> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka
>
> Gary
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on 
>> Melrose St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. 
>> Those 
>> roads above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW 
>> were my go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). 
>> I 
>> haven't ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still 
>> decent riding. 
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could 
>>> also add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) 
>>> just north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. 
>>> that 
>>> could follow the Asheville bike routes.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
 quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   

 I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and 
 then possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts 
 District 
 greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 

 Anyone want to weigh in?

 On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
> gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a 
> suitable date 
> I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems 
> like the 
> biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
> probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we 
> wanted to 
> avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.
>
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
>> Warning: Long Post.
>>
>> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, 
>> and would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. 
>> The 
>> Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
>> (from 
>> 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
>> annual 
>> visitors. 
>>
>> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
>> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county 
>> that were 
>> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>>
>> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
>> riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding 
>> (Bent 
>> Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Carl]

Thanks Gary, I can participate at least part of that weekend.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:01:46 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> We've had five folks fill out the doodle scheduling poll (thanks Steve, 
> Jason, Ky, and Chasen) to try to find a late spring date for a potential 
> Asheville gathering and the May 12, 13, 14 weekend is best for those who 
> responded. Does that date work with others who didn't respond? Or should I 
> throw out some summer and/or early fall dates? 
> Gary
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
>> first weekend of June.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
 this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
 would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
 link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
 dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
 week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
 from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link 
 to 
 the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka

 Gary

 On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on 
> Melrose St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those 
> roads above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW 
> were my go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I 
> haven't ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still 
> decent riding. 
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also 
>> add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just 
>> north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that 
>> could 
>> follow the Asheville bike routes.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
>>> quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   
>>>
>>> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
>>> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
>>> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 
>>>
>>> Anyone want to weigh in?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
 gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
 date 
 I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like 
 the 
 biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
 probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted 
 to 
 avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.

 On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
> Warning: Long Post.
>
> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, 
> and would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. 
> The 
> Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
> (from 
> 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
> annual 
> visitors. 
>
> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
> were 
> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>
> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
> riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding 
> (Bent 
> Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can 
> be a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the 
> Pisgah 
> National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up 
> to 
> Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[River Bailey]

I think those May dates work for me.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:01:46 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> We've had five folks fill out the doodle scheduling poll (thanks Steve, 
> Jason, Ky, and Chasen) to try to find a late spring date for a potential 
> Asheville gathering and the May 12, 13, 14 weekend is best for those who 
> responded. Does that date work with others who didn't respond? Or should I 
> throw out some summer and/or early fall dates? 
> Gary
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
>> first weekend of June.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
 this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
 would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
 link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
 dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
 week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
 from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link 
 to 
 the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka

 Gary

 On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on 
> Melrose St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those 
> roads above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW 
> were my go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I 
> haven't ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still 
> decent riding. 
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also 
>> add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just 
>> north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that 
>> could 
>> follow the Asheville bike routes.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
>>> quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   
>>>
>>> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
>>> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
>>> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 
>>>
>>> Anyone want to weigh in?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
 gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
 date 
 I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like 
 the 
 biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
 probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted 
 to 
 avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.

 On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
> Warning: Long Post.
>
> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, 
> and would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. 
> The 
> Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
> (from 
> 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
> annual 
> visitors. 
>
> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
> were 
> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>
> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
> riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding 
> (Bent 
> Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can 
> be a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the 
> Pisgah 
> National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up 
> to 
> Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two tunnels  (bring 
> 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

['Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

We've had five folks fill out the doodle scheduling poll (thanks Steve, 
Jason, Ky, and Chasen) to try to find a late spring date for a potential 
Asheville gathering and the May 12, 13, 14 weekend is best for those who 
responded. Does that date work with others who didn't respond? Or should I 
throw out some summer and/or early fall dates? 
Gary

On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
> first weekend of June.
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
>>> this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
>>> would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
>>> link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
>>> dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
>>> week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
>>> from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link to 
>>> the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on Melrose 
 St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those roads 
 above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW were my 
 go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I haven't 
 ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still decent 
 riding. 

 On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also 
> add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just 
> north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that could 
> follow the Asheville bike routes.
>
> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
>> quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   
>>
>> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
>> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
>> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 
>>
>> Anyone want to weigh in?
>>
>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
>>> gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
>>> date 
>>> I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like 
>>> the 
>>> biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
>>> probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted 
>>> to 
>>> avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
 Warning: Long Post.

 I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, and 
 would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. The 
 Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
 (from 
 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
 annual 
 visitors. 

 The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
 overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
 were 
 old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   

 If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
 riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding (Bent 
 Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can 
 be a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the 
 Pisgah 
 National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up 
 to 
 Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two tunnels  (bring 
 your lights).  Ample (& secure) parking is available at the NC 
 Arboretum 
 for $20 per vehicle. I have an annual membership and could transport 
 up to 
 4 bikes and three passengers. 

 As already 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Brian Turner]

Dang! Just my luck... I'll be in Florida the last week of May / first week 
of June. Still, I look forward to this happening so I can read the ride 
report and hopefully see some good photos!

-Brian

On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
> first weekend of June.
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
>>> this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
>>> would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
>>> link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
>>> dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
>>> week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
>>> from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link to 
>>> the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on Melrose 
 St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those roads 
 above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW were my 
 go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I haven't 
 ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still decent 
 riding. 

 On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also 
> add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just 
> north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that could 
> follow the Asheville bike routes.
>
> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
>> quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   
>>
>> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
>> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
>> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 
>>
>> Anyone want to weigh in?
>>
>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
>>> gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
>>> date 
>>> I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like 
>>> the 
>>> biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
>>> probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted 
>>> to 
>>> avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
 Warning: Long Post.

 I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, and 
 would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. The 
 Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
 (from 
 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
 annual 
 visitors. 

 The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
 overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
 were 
 old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   

 If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
 riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding (Bent 
 Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can 
 be a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the 
 Pisgah 
 National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up 
 to 
 Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two tunnels  (bring 
 your lights).  Ample (& secure) parking is available at the NC 
 Arboretum 
 for $20 per vehicle. I have an annual membership and could transport 
 up to 
 4 bikes and three passengers. 

 As already mentioned, the new urban greenway in the River Arts 
 District is pleasant, albeit short, with multiple interesting places 
 to 
 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

['Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
first weekend of June.

On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
>> this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
>> would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
>> link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
>> dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
>> week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
>> from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link to 
>> the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on Melrose 
>>> St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those roads 
>>> above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW were my 
>>> go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I haven't 
>>> ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still decent 
>>> riding. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also 
 add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just 
 north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that could 
 follow the Asheville bike routes.

 On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
> quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   
>
> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 
>
> Anyone want to weigh in?
>
> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
>> gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
>> date 
>> I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like 
>> the 
>> biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
>> probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted 
>> to 
>> avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
>>> Warning: Long Post.
>>>
>>> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, and 
>>> would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. The 
>>> Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
>>> (from 
>>> 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
>>> annual 
>>> visitors. 
>>>
>>> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
>>> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
>>> were 
>>> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>>>
>>> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
>>> riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding (Bent 
>>> Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can 
>>> be a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the 
>>> Pisgah 
>>> National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up to 
>>> Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two tunnels  (bring 
>>> your lights).  Ample (& secure) parking is available at the NC 
>>> Arboretum 
>>> for $20 per vehicle. I have an annual membership and could transport up 
>>> to 
>>> 4 bikes and three passengers. 
>>>
>>> As already mentioned, the new urban greenway in the River Arts 
>>> District is pleasant, albeit short, with multiple interesting places to 
>>> stop for food and/or beverage or just to gawk at the graffiti murals.. 
>>> There are some opportunities to climb up into surrounding neighborhoods 
>>> on fairly quiet streets.   There also happens to be a small RV park 
>>> (with a 
>>> tent area) that the western end of the River Greenway. runs right 
>>> through.
>>>
>>>  I do not recommend planning a 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Steve]

Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?

On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
> this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
> would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
> link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
> dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
> week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
> from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link to 
> the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka
>
> Gary
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on Melrose 
>> St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those roads 
>> above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW were my 
>> go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I haven't 
>> ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still decent 
>> riding. 
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also 
>>> add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just 
>>> north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that could 
>>> follow the Asheville bike routes.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit quieter 
 as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   

 I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
 possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
 greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 

 Anyone want to weigh in?

 On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
> gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
> date 
> I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like 
> the 
> biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
> probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted to 
> avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.
>
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
>> Warning: Long Post.
>>
>> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, and 
>> would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. The 
>> Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
>> (from 
>> 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million annual 
>> visitors. 
>>
>> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
>> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
>> were 
>> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>>
>> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
>> riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding (Bent 
>> Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can be 
>> a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the Pisgah 
>> National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up to 
>> Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two tunnels  (bring 
>> your lights).  Ample (& secure) parking is available at the NC Arboretum 
>> for $20 per vehicle. I have an annual membership and could transport up 
>> to 
>> 4 bikes and three passengers. 
>>
>> As already mentioned, the new urban greenway in the River Arts 
>> District is pleasant, albeit short, with multiple interesting places to 
>> stop for food and/or beverage or just to gawk at the graffiti murals.. 
>> There are some opportunities to climb up into surrounding neighborhoods 
>> on fairly quiet streets.   There also happens to be a small RV park 
>> (with a 
>> tent area) that the western end of the River Greenway. runs right 
>> through.
>>
>>  I do not recommend planning a gathering for a holiday weekend --- 
>>  or any time in the month of October.  
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 9:01:54 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> I think we should stick to the Asheville area for the main ride.  I 
>>> know Wilson Creek is beautiful.  I've hiked there.  

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

['Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link to 
the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka

Gary

On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on Melrose St 
> for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those roads above 
> the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW were my go 
> to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I haven't 
> ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still decent 
> riding. 
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also add 
>> another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just north 
>> of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that could follow 
>> the Asheville bike routes.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit quieter 
>>> as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   
>>>
>>> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
>>> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
>>> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 
>>>
>>> Anyone want to weigh in?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
 gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
 date 
 I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like the 
 biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
 probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted to 
 avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.

 On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
> Warning: Long Post.
>
> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, and 
> would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. The 
> Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
> (from 
> 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million annual 
> visitors. 
>
> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
> were 
> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>
> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
> riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding (Bent 
> Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can be 
> a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the Pisgah 
> National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up to 
> Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two tunnels  (bring 
> your lights).  Ample (& secure) parking is available at the NC Arboretum 
> for $20 per vehicle. I have an annual membership and could transport up 
> to 
> 4 bikes and three passengers. 
>
> As already mentioned, the new urban greenway in the River Arts 
> District is pleasant, albeit short, with multiple interesting places to 
> stop for food and/or beverage or just to gawk at the graffiti murals.. 
> There are some opportunities to climb up into surrounding neighborhoods 
> on fairly quiet streets.   There also happens to be a small RV park (with 
> a 
> tent area) that the western end of the River Greenway. runs right 
> through.
>
>  I do not recommend planning a gathering for a holiday weekend ---  or 
> any time in the month of October.  
>
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 9:01:54 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I think we should stick to the Asheville area for the main ride.  I 
>> know Wilson Creek is beautiful.  I've hiked there.  I ride fully loaded 
>> and 
>> am not into hiking a bike.  Mine is too heavy.  I think we should shoot 
>> for 
>> a ride in Asheville at the end of June 
>> For those who want to do Wilson Creek would y'all want to a 2 part 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Steve]

Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on Melrose St
for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those roads above
the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW were my go
to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I haven't
ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still decent
riding.

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also add
> another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just north
> of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that could follow
> the Asheville bike routes.
>
> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit quieter
>> as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???
>>
>> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then
>> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District
>> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage.
>>
>> Anyone want to weigh in?
>>
>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a
>>> gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable date
>>> I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like the
>>> biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would
>>> probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted to
>>> avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger Warning:
 Long Post.

 I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, and
 would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. The
 Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade (from
 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million annual
 visitors.

 The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been
 overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that were
 old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---

 If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road
 riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding (Bent
 Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can be a
 challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the Pisgah
 National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up to
 Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two tunnels  (bring
 your lights).  Ample (& secure) parking is available at the NC Arboretum
 for $20 per vehicle. I have an annual membership and could transport up to
 4 bikes and three passengers.

 As already mentioned, the new urban greenway in the River Arts District
 is pleasant, albeit short, with multiple interesting places to stop for
 food and/or beverage or just to gawk at the graffiti murals.. There are
 some opportunities to climb up into surrounding neighborhoods on
 fairly quiet streets.   There also happens to be a small RV park (with a
 tent area) that the western end of the River Greenway. runs right
 through.

  I do not recommend planning a gathering for a holiday weekend ---  or
 any time in the month of October.


 On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 9:01:54 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I think we should stick to the Asheville area for the main ride.  I
> know Wilson Creek is beautiful.  I've hiked there.  I ride fully loaded 
> and
> am not into hiking a bike.  Mine is too heavy.  I think we should shoot 
> for
> a ride in Asheville at the end of June
> For those who want to do Wilson Creek would y'all want to a 2 part Riv
> event so people could choose one or the other or both?  I hope this pans
> out.  I'd love to see all these bikes.
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 7:02:32 PM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Oh, and one other detail I forgot to mention is that there's a really
>> nice campground at Bent Creek - although it fills up pretty quickly in 
>> the
>> summer. Lots of chain hotels around Bent Creek too.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 6:39:47 PM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> The Wilson Creek area is beautiful - but is pretty remote and about
>>> 1.5 hrs from Asheville. Closer to Asheville there are some great fire 
>>> roads
>>> and mellow singe track at Bent Creek Experimental Forest that is 
>>> connected
>>> to the NC Arboretum. I ride there all the time and it is just about 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Steve]

Turns out I've been thinking about a ride in that Wilson Creek area for 
awhile now - just haven't had a chance to pull it off. If the date(s) work 
I'd love to be included! 
On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 7:17:08 PM UTC-5 J J wrote:

> This sounds great. If scheduling aligns, I’m down for a ride, too. I have 
> family in NC — Piedmont area — and it’s an easy drive to the west. 
>
> On Mar 3, 2023, at 18:31, RichS  wrote:
>
> This could be quite the Riv Ride. Tossing my cycling cap in the ring!
>
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 4:19:52 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:
>
>> I'll be in the area over July 4th as well, so Laing's timeframe would 
>> work for me! Michael's routes sound pretty perfect.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:53:36 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> June 30 thru July 9 would be good for me.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:
>>>
 I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national 
 forest wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. Its 
 a 
 70/30 mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow 
 singletrack. There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, but 
 those are downhill. I am not much on digital route planning, I ride with 
 paper maps, so forgive the lengthy text description. You can refer to the 
 MTB project website - "yancey ridge" 
  to use their 
 map of the area as reference for the following description. Start at 
 Beacon 
 Heights on the parkway> Carrol Gragg rd>Mountains to Sea trail> Old House 
 gap> down yancey ridge trail to FS 451>Roseborough rd> FS 192(old house 
 gap 
 rd)>edgemont rd> 221> Beacon heights. 

 Another possible route would be a loop covering the Maple Sally Rd 
  in 
 Wilson Creek Area - a full loop ride (back on Brown Mountain Beach) takes 
 me about 4 hours. Theres also an option for a shorter 10 mile loop 
  along 
 the route if some folks wanted to opt for that. 

 late may? june? 



 On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-5 Jason D wrote:

> I would be interested in this ride as well. I visit Asheville pretty 
> often, but I don't have any insights on the trails/fire roads there. 
> Asheville or Boone would be good with me!
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:41:33 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> Should we shoot for Boone or Asheville?   What month?  Mileage?
>>
>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:01:38 PM UTC-5 River Bailey wrote:
>>
>>> Also in Indy and could travel down with Eric for a Riv ride.
>>>
>>> River
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:
>>>
 I'm throwing my name in the hat to join along. I'm in Indianapolis, 
 but my in-laws are in Spruce Pine just off the Parkway and I'm keen to 
 ride 
 in the area with other Riv-folk.

 Best,
 Eric 
 On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:

> Be happy to come up to Boone too. 
>
> Dick
>
> On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:36:56 AM UTC-5 
> fiddl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Just putting my name down in the "happy to travel from Knoxville 
>> for a Riv-ride" column...
>>
>> On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am out of my league when it comes to orgainizing things 
>>> (anything). Pam in Charlotte (on this list) is much better at it 
>>> than me as 
>>> she does it all the time. Downside is she doesn't know the area all 
>>> that 
>>> well. Could be wrong about that. 
>>>
>>> Would enjoy a group ride and would be cool to get others from as 
>>> far away as Kentucky and/or Knoxville Tn to join us. If anybody 
>>> wants to 
>>> stay overnight Jann and I have two guest bedrooms and lots of 
>>> floorspace 
>>> for those who may not mind crashing there in a sleeping bag. Neat 
>>> little 
>>> 50's style motel nearby too.  Lots of camping options including 
>>> backcountry 
>>> in the Pisgah National Forest. 
>>>
>>> 99% of my road riding is slow and solo. Leave from my house for 
>>> various amounts of time and distance, based on how my 73 year old 
>>> body 
>>> feels at the time. 
>>>
>>> Thinking out loud...many good local shops in town. They 
>>> could suggest routes. Or we could do a section of the Blue Ridge 

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

[Junes]

This sounds great. If scheduling aligns, I’m down for a ride, too. I have family in NC — Piedmont area — and it’s an easy drive to the west. On Mar 3, 2023, at 18:31, RichS  wrote:This could be quite the Riv Ride. Tossing my cycling cap in the ring!Best,Rich in ATLOn Friday, March 3, 2023 at 4:19:52 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:I'll be in the area over July 4th as well, so Laing's timeframe would work for me! Michael's routes sound pretty perfect.EricOn Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:53:36 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:June 30 thru July 9 would be good for me.LaingOn Friday, March 3, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-5 Michael Iauch wrote:I'd propose a ride that is a figure 8 loop in the pisgah national forest wilson creek area. It takes me about 3hours with a lunch stop. Its a 70/30 mix of gravel forest road and fire roads to mostly mellow singletrack. There are some sections folks may prefer to hike a bike, but those are downhill. I am not much on digital route planning, I ride with paper maps, so forgive the lengthy text description. You can refer to the MTB project website - "yancey ridge" to use their map of the area as reference for the following description. Start at Beacon Heights on the parkway> Carrol Gragg rd>Mountains to Sea trail> Old House gap> down yancey ridge trail to FS 451>Roseborough rd> FS 192(old house gap rd)>edgemont rd> 221> Beacon heights. Another possible route would be a loop covering the Maple Sally Rd in Wilson Creek Area - a full loop ride (back on Brown Mountain Beach) takes me about 4 hours. Theres also an option for a shorter 10 mile loop along the route if some folks wanted to opt for that. late may? june? On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:51:30 PM UTC-5 Jason D wrote:I would be interested in this ride as well. I visit Asheville pretty often, but I don't have any insights on the trails/fire roads there. Asheville or Boone would be good with me!On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:41:33 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:Should we shoot for Boone or Asheville?   What month?  Mileage?On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:01:38 PM UTC-5 River Bailey wrote:Also in Indy and could travel down with Eric for a Riv ride.RiverOn Monday, February 27, 2023 at 12:07:39 PM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:I'm throwing my name in the hat to join along. I'm in Indianapolis, but my in-laws are in Spruce Pine just off the Parkway and I'm keen to ride in the area with other Riv-folk.Best,Eric On Monday, February 27, 2023 at 9:08:33 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:Be happy to come up to Boone too. DickOn Monday, February 27, 2023 at 1:36:56 AM UTC-5 fiddl...@gmail.com wrote:Just putting my name down in the "happy to travel from Knoxville for a Riv-ride" column...On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 9:38:04 AM UTC-5 Dick Pahle wrote:I am out of my league when it comes to orgainizing things (anything). Pam in Charlotte (on this list) is much better at it than me as she does it all the time. Downside is she doesn't know the area all that well. Could be wrong about that. Would enjoy a group ride and would be cool to get others from as far away as Kentucky and/or Knoxville Tn to join us. If anybody wants to stay overnight Jann and I have two guest bedrooms and lots of floorspace for those who may not mind crashing there in a sleeping bag. Neat little 50's style motel nearby too.  Lots of camping options including backcountry in the Pisgah National Forest. 99% of my road riding is slow and solo. Leave from my house for various amounts of time and distance, based on how my 73 year old body feels at the time. Thinking out loud...many good local shops in town. They could suggest routes. Or we could do a section of the Blue Ridge Parkway which would mean out and back or arranging for some kind of shuttle service. Parkway is beautiful. Lots of 'scenic overlook spots' every few miles. Hilly in lots of places. As best I can recall the elevation along the ridge near us is 3 to 5,000 feet. Riding up to the Parkway and back from Brevard would be about 30 miles, round trip. Or longer if you wanted to add some parkway miles once we got up there. For me, that would be a hard ride. What's next? Does someone here wanna organize? All done on this thread or do we start a new one?Spring and fall are georgeous here. Summer too but it can be hot and humid. Plus, we are in a temperate rain forest so it rains a lot. Had no idea my post looking for Rivs in the area would generate this kinda response. It's great!!!DickOn Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 2:24:27 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com wrote:Dick, just saying "thank you" for kicking off this thread. Interesting to see the number of Riv riders in the area.If you ever take a notion to organize a Brevard area ride for Riv riders (and Riv curious, like myself) I'd be interested. Between the Brevard paved greenway network, the dirt trail into the National Forest at Pisgah Forest and the breweries/eateries along the greenway - and whatever routes you Brevard locals keep secret - I bet a low key party pace ride could be a fun event.