Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Ah yep we were...in a dead zone but right where we wanted to be. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein lbert Einstein On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 7:37 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: By now, they should be well out of wifi range. There should be some good pix a story by late Sat or Sunday. Stay tuned! Hopefully we can organize a repeat in the future, as I would love to do this. dougP On Friday, December 20, 2013 5:36:29 PM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote: You rascals have a great time. Tom On Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:11:08 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Calling all hearty Riv Riders. For me at least this will be my last overnight for 2013 and I figure as next year my resolution is to do one a month,12-S240's or The S240 a month club...yeah it's easier on my finances than the Bike a Month Club but perhaps it will have it's own challenges like work schedule and honey do lists among other obligations, but I digress...the ride is planned for the Mount Gleason area weather permitting, the details are herehttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aVV3Hgh-vTw which are the original post. Mr. Shiller AKA the BigSchill over Flickr yonder and I have worked out a alternate ride if as I mentioned before above the weather doesn't cooperate. If the low temp at Mill Creek Summit is let's say in the low 30's (not all have the gear for that temperature) then we'll call it for the following alt-ride. Start Ventura out the Ventura river trail to the Ojai Valley bike path extension through Ojai, 33N to Forest route 5N13 to Matilija Campground 27 miles with obvious climbing. I am told Robhttp://oceanaircycles.com/about-2/about/ Perks of Ocean Air Cycles did this ride earlier in the year.The directions are herehttps://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Ventura,+CAdaddr=Matilija+Campground,+Ventura,+CAhl=ensll=34.521126,-119.353065sspn=0.088538,0.154324geocode=FVD9CgIds7Xk-ClNOZdQFa3pgDHo6no2fPXvJA%3BFcGuDgIdHWXi-CkZQSnmUKDpgDHtrV9eE9PxVAoq=ventura+cat=hgl=usdirflg=bmra=ltmz=11lci=bike . I figure we can call the ride by Wednesday the 11th if the forecast looks dismal so there's time to make travel arraingments Note: I'd like to get an early ride out time for plenty of leisure read that as photo op's, rest breaks, snacks and because it gets dark early make camp with some day light left. So how does an 8am start sound? I'll be driving up since it's only an hour or so drive for me. I understand if taking off a Friday is difficult for some but then who really needs to work on a Friday anyways! And for those of you who loads of free time here's something to do, ride with good people get back to nature (frosty as it maybe) and in the end have a good meal and some brews at the Anacapa Brewing Co. in DT Ventura. Sounding better! All right! Let's do it. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Eistein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Woke up early to pack for the S240 ... It's tomorrow.. Doh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Ha! I wish it was today in which case we'd have two full days of camping . Hey Evan, the update is that Mike S. told me yesterday that he thought he was coming down with a cold!! So the likelihood is that it'll just be the two of us. You cool with that? I just want to get out for a couple of days in nature. Both Friday and Saturday in Ojai look to be a high of 66F with a low of 40F and dry so not too bad, I'm going to REI today to pick up a USGS map of the area and a larger stuff sack for the sleeping bag.You need anything? ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein lbert Einstein On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Coconutbill evan.spa...@gmail.com wrote: Woke up early to pack for the S240 ... It's tomorrow.. Doh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Mike, Hope you feel better soon! Evan and I are going for it...I'll deal with the mud at least it won't be raining. Anyway making a few changes to the ride... ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein lbert Einstein On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: wish I could go but came down with a minor cold yesterday. With nighttime temps in the mid to high 30's at the campsite I decided to stay home and recover. It's been raining down here all day... gunna be muddy a bit up there too. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
The Coconut takes a licking but keeps on riding. The Coconut.http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/11343625426/ ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein lbert Einstein On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:13 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: A rolling coconut is a good coconut. Keep on rollin'. dougP On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:44:13 PM UTC-8, Coconutbill wrote: thanks for the well wishes, but we diverge... the coconut continues to roll... coconutbill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
The Portland Crew has a vested interest in an unbroken Coconut. You break you fix, SoCal. Six Million Dollar Coconut Bill On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Coconutbill evan.spa...@gmail.com wrote: It's hard to break a coconut. Looks like I'll be free for the other options. -Evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Christopher, as you well know the Coconuts warranty does not cover weird fissures. Please reference policy card. We have ascertained that while travelling in a diplomatic capacity it appears the weird cycling community of Puddle Town have disturbed his gyroscopic balancing thus ill preparing theCoco for Southern California Public Works projects and traffic patterns. In the future when we lend our Coconut we ask that you *not* disturb his finely tuned stability systems. ~Hugh Coconut whirligig control engineer Smitham On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:04:00 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: The Portland Crew has a vested interest in an unbroken Coconut. You break you fix, SoCal. Six Million Dollar Coconut Bill On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Coconutbill evan@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: It's hard to break a coconut. Looks like I'll be free for the other options. -Evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
For crying out loud he isn't the Hubble Space Telescope. Nothing a ball peen hammer and some nail polish can't fix. Get well Coconutbill. And good luck. With those technicians, you're gonna need it. cc On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:47 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Christopher, as you well know the Coconuts warranty does not cover weird fissures. Please reference policy card. We have ascertained that while travelling in a diplomatic capacity it appears the weird cycling community of Puddle Town have disturbed his gyroscopic balancing thus ill preparing theCoco for Southern California Public Works projects and traffic patterns. In the future when we lend our Coconut we ask that you *not* disturb his finely tuned stability systems. ~Hugh Coconut whirligig control engineer Smitham On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:04:00 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: The Portland Crew has a vested interest in an unbroken Coconut. You break you fix, SoCal. Six Million Dollar Coconut Bill On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Coconutbill evan@gmail.com wrote: It's hard to break a coconut. Looks like I'll be free for the other options. -Evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
No need to cry over spilled coconut milk. Ride barefoot. It eliminates the need for gyroscopic balancing, replacing it with proprioceptive spacial awareness. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:47:54 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Christopher, as you well know the Coconuts warranty does not cover weird fissures. Please reference policy card. We have ascertained that while travelling in a diplomatic capacity it appears the weird cycling community of Puddle Town have disturbed his gyroscopic balancing thus ill preparing theCoco for Southern California Public Works projects and traffic patterns. In the future when we lend our Coconut we ask that you *not* disturb his finely tuned stability systems. ~Hugh Coconut whirligig control engineer Smitham On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:04:00 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: The Portland Crew has a vested interest in an unbroken Coconut. You break you fix, SoCal. Six Million Dollar Coconut Bill On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Coconutbill evan@gmail.com wrote: It's hard to break a coconut. Looks like I'll be free for the other options. -Evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Cocochen no crying up there we don't want eyesicles forming and he's no six million dollar coconut either we can maintain his orbit for far less. Hey Mac, if we eliminate the gyroscopic effect then we can make our adjustments relative to his individual mass distribution shoes or no shoes. Cocodyne- repairing fractured Coconuts with twine and shellac since 1961 we don't need no stinking ball peen hammer fancy wancy nail polish. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein lbert Einstein On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: For crying out loud he isn't the Hubble Space Telescope. Nothing a ball peen hammer and some nail polish can't fix. Get well Coconutbill. And good luck. With those technicians, you're gonna need it. cc On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:47 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Christopher, as you well know the Coconuts warranty does not cover weird fissures. Please reference policy card. We have ascertained that while travelling in a diplomatic capacity it appears the weird cycling community of Puddle Town have disturbed his gyroscopic balancing thus ill preparing theCoco for Southern California Public Works projects and traffic patterns. In the future when we lend our Coconut we ask that you *not* disturb his finely tuned stability systems. ~Hugh Coconut whirligig control engineer Smitham On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:04:00 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: The Portland Crew has a vested interest in an unbroken Coconut. You break you fix, SoCal. Six Million Dollar Coconut Bill On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Coconutbill evan@gmail.comwrote: It's hard to break a coconut. Looks like I'll be free for the other options. -Evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Hey Andy, Thanks, well as it stands the Coconut got injured and is out for the count at least on the proposed date, Curtis is out and there has been little interest from anyone else. I figured it was a long shot this time of year, so it looks like it won't be happening this weekend. Evan is okay but sustained a bruised rib and something else? He said it was poor public planning at the root. I've got a cold so was sort of inclined to shine it anyways but would have gone if others were all the way in. As it stands I'm planning on the 20th or 27th in the Los Padres with or without partners in crime. What I like about your community is it's unflagging determination to get out and about, probably due to Portland's size...here in SoCal as you know it's hard to bring people together for small events. I just hope I have the energy to move North when I retire. I hear cold ain't easy when your bones get old:-) ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein lbert Einstein On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote: Our s24o with CocoBill got lost in the mix due to weather and a crowded schedule. Have fun in the Los Padres. --Smitty On Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:11:08 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Calling all hearty Riv Riders. For me at least this will be my last overnight for 2013 and I figure as next year my resolution is to do one a month,12-S240's or The S240 a month club...yeah it's easier on my finances than the Bike a Month Club but perhaps it will have it's own challenges like work schedule and honey do lists among other obligations, but I digress...the ride is planned for the Mount Gleason area weather permitting, the details are herehttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aVV3Hgh-vTw which are the original post. Mr. Shiller AKA the BigSchill over Flickr yonder and I have worked out a alternate ride if as I mentioned before above the weather doesn't cooperate. If the low temp at Mill Creek Summit is let's say in the low 30's (not all have the gear for that temperature) then we'll call it for the following alt-ride. Start Ventura out the Ventura river trail to the Ojai Valley bike path extension through Ojai, 33N to Forest route 5N13 to Matilija Campground 27 miles with obvious climbing. I am told Robhttp://oceanaircycles.com/about-2/about/ Perks of Ocean Air Cycles did this ride earlier in the year.The directions are herehttps://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Ventura,+CAdaddr=Matilija+Campground,+Ventura,+CAhl=ensll=34.521126,-119.353065sspn=0.088538,0.154324geocode=FVD9CgIds7Xk-ClNOZdQFa3pgDHo6no2fPXvJA%3BFcGuDgIdHWXi-CkZQSnmUKDpgDHtrV9eE9PxVAoq=ventura+cat=hgl=usdirflg=bmra=ltmz=11lci=bike . I figure we can call the ride by Wednesday the 11th if the forecast looks dismal so there's time to make travel arraingments Note: I'd like to get an early ride out time for plenty of leisure read that as photo op's, rest breaks, snacks and because it gets dark early make camp with some day light left. So how does an 8am start sound? I'll be driving up since it's only an hour or so drive for me. I understand if taking off a Friday is difficult for some but then who really needs to work on a Friday anyways! And for those of you who loads of free time here's something to do, ride with good people get back to nature (frosty as it maybe) and in the end have a good meal and some brews at the Anacapa Brewing Co. in DT Ventura. Sounding better! All right! Let's do it. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Eistein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
I just thought it was because we're bike crazy. Geography don't hurt either. cc On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Andy, Thanks, well as it stands the Coconut got injured and is out for the count at least on the proposed date, Curtis is out and there has been little interest from anyone else. I figured it was a long shot this time of year, so it looks like it won't be happening this weekend. Evan is okay but sustained a bruised rib and something else? He said it was poor public planning at the root. I've got a cold so was sort of inclined to shine it anyways but would have gone if others were all the way in. As it stands I'm planning on the 20th or 27th in the Los Padres with or without partners in crime. What I like about your community is it's unflagging determination to get out and about, probably due to Portland's size...here in SoCal as you know it's hard to bring people together for small events. I just hope I have the energy to move North when I retire. I hear cold ain't easy when your bones get old:-) ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein lbert Einstein On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote: Our s24o with CocoBill got lost in the mix due to weather and a crowded schedule. Have fun in the Los Padres. --Smitty On Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:11:08 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Calling all hearty Riv Riders. For me at least this will be my last overnight for 2013 and I figure as next year my resolution is to do one a month,12-S240's or The S240 a month club...yeah it's easier on my finances than the Bike a Month Club but perhaps it will have it's own challenges like work schedule and honey do lists among other obligations, but I digress...the ride is planned for the Mount Gleason area weather permitting, the details are herehttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aVV3Hgh-vTw which are the original post. Mr. Shiller AKA the BigSchill over Flickr yonder and I have worked out a alternate ride if as I mentioned before above the weather doesn't cooperate. If the low temp at Mill Creek Summit is let's say in the low 30's (not all have the gear for that temperature) then we'll call it for the following alt-ride. Start Ventura out the Ventura river trail to the Ojai Valley bike path extension through Ojai, 33N to Forest route 5N13 to Matilija Campground 27 miles with obvious climbing. I am told Robhttp://oceanaircycles.com/about-2/about/ Perks of Ocean Air Cycles did this ride earlier in the year.The directions are herehttps://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Ventura,+CAdaddr=Matilija+Campground,+Ventura,+CAhl=ensll=34.521126,-119.353065sspn=0.088538,0.154324geocode=FVD9CgIds7Xk-ClNOZdQFa3pgDHo6no2fPXvJA%3BFcGuDgIdHWXi-CkZQSnmUKDpgDHtrV9eE9PxVAoq=ventura+cat=hgl=usdirflg=bmra=ltmz=11lci=bike . I figure we can call the ride by Wednesday the 11th if the forecast looks dismal so there's time to make travel arraingments Note: I'd like to get an early ride out time for plenty of leisure read that as photo op's, rest breaks, snacks and because it gets dark early make camp with some day light left. So how does an 8am start sound? I'll be driving up since it's only an hour or so drive for me. I understand if taking off a Friday is difficult for some but then who really needs to work on a Friday anyways! And for those of you who loads of free time here's something to do, ride with good people get back to nature (frosty as it maybe) and in the end have a good meal and some brews at the Anacapa Brewing Co. in DT Ventura. Sounding better! All right! Let's do it. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Eistein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:18:36 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: I just thought it was because we're bike crazy. And just crazy in general. Wait, the more correct term is *weird.* GET WELL SOON, Coconut Bill! -Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Wait, Coconut Bill was fine when he left for Portland... what did you do to him!?!?!?! On 12/9/13, Shawn Granton urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:18:36 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: I just thought it was because we're bike crazy. And just crazy in general. Wait, the more correct term is *weird.* GET WELL SOON, Coconut Bill! -Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Hey, I was doing my best to keep him safe. Let's just say that his A Homer Hilsen fit another one of our crew quite perfectly, and Bill wasn't willing to part with it...And y'know, *accidents happen...* On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:20 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Wait, Coconut Bill was fine when he left for Portland... what did you do to him!?!?!?! On 12/9/13, Shawn Granton urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:18:36 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: I just thought it was because we're bike crazy. And just crazy in general. Wait, the more correct term is *weird.* GET WELL SOON, Coconut Bill! -Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://urbanadventureleague.blogspot.com/ http://groups.google.com/group/urban-adventure-league-portland http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/ P O Box 14185, Portland OR 97293-0185 You've read this far, congratulations! You are part of an elite club. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
And nobody say nuthin' right. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
What I like about your community is it's unflagging determination to get out and about, probably due to Portland's size.. If you wait for good weather in the PNW, you'll do a lotta waiting. We freak out when the temp dips to 40 and go on storm watch if measurable rain (like 1/10) is forecast. dougP On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:04:27 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Hey Andy, Thanks, well as it stands the Coconut got injured and is out for the count at least on the proposed date, Curtis is out and there has been little interest from anyone else. I figured it was a long shot this time of year, so it looks like it won't be happening this weekend. Evan is okay but sustained a bruised rib and something else? He said it was poor public planning at the root. I've got a cold so was sort of inclined to shine it anyways but would have gone if others were all the way in. As it stands I'm planning on the 20th or 27th in the Los Padres with or without partners in crime. What I like about your community is it's unflagging determination to get out and about, probably due to Portland's size...here in SoCal as you know it's hard to bring people together for small events. I just hope I have the energy to move North when I retire. I hear cold ain't easy when your bones get old:-) ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein lbert Einstein On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Our s24o with CocoBill got lost in the mix due to weather and a crowded schedule. Have fun in the Los Padres. --Smitty On Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:11:08 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Calling all hearty Riv Riders. For me at least this will be my last overnight for 2013 and I figure as next year my resolution is to do one a month,12-S240's or The S240 a month club...yeah it's easier on my finances than the Bike a Month Club but perhaps it will have it's own challenges like work schedule and honey do lists among other obligations, but I digress...the ride is planned for the Mount Gleason area weather permitting, the details are herehttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aVV3Hgh-vTw which are the original post. Mr. Shiller AKA the BigSchill over Flickr yonder and I have worked out a alternate ride if as I mentioned before above the weather doesn't cooperate. If the low temp at Mill Creek Summit is let's say in the low 30's (not all have the gear for that temperature) then we'll call it for the following alt-ride. Start Ventura out the Ventura river trail to the Ojai Valley bike path extension through Ojai, 33N to Forest route 5N13 to Matilija Campground 27 miles with obvious climbing. I am told Robhttp://oceanaircycles.com/about-2/about/ Perks of Ocean Air Cycles did this ride earlier in the year.The directions are herehttps://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Ventura,+CAdaddr=Matilija+Campground,+Ventura,+CAhl=ensll=34.521126,-119.353065sspn=0.088538,0.154324geocode=FVD9CgIds7Xk-ClNOZdQFa3pgDHo6no2fPXvJA%3BFcGuDgIdHWXi-CkZQSnmUKDpgDHtrV9eE9PxVAoq=ventura+cat=hgl=usdirflg=bmra=ltmz=11lci=bike . I figure we can call the ride by Wednesday the 11th if the forecast looks dismal so there's time to make travel arraingments Note: I'd like to get an early ride out time for plenty of leisure read that as photo op's, rest breaks, snacks and because it gets dark early make camp with some day light left. So how does an 8am start sound? I'll be driving up since it's only an hour or so drive for me. I understand if taking off a Friday is difficult for some but then who really needs to work on a Friday anyways! And for those of you who loads of free time here's something to do, ride with good people get back to nature (frosty as it maybe) and in the end have a good meal and some brews at the Anacapa Brewing Co. in DT Ventura. Sounding better! All right! Let's do it. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Eistein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Too true. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein lbert Einstein On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:31 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: What I like about your community is it's unflagging determination to get out and about, probably due to Portland's size.. If you wait for good weather in the PNW, you'll do a lotta waiting. We freak out when the temp dips to 40 and go on storm watch if measurable rain (like 1/10) is forecast. dougP On Monday, December 9, 2013 5:04:27 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Hey Andy, Thanks, well as it stands the Coconut got injured and is out for the count at least on the proposed date, Curtis is out and there has been little interest from anyone else. I figured it was a long shot this time of year, so it looks like it won't be happening this weekend. Evan is okay but sustained a bruised rib and something else? He said it was poor public planning at the root. I've got a cold so was sort of inclined to shine it anyways but would have gone if others were all the way in. As it stands I'm planning on the 20th or 27th in the Los Padres with or without partners in crime. What I like about your community is it's unflagging determination to get out and about, probably due to Portland's size...here in SoCal as you know it's hard to bring people together for small events. I just hope I have the energy to move North when I retire. I hear cold ain't easy when your bones get old:-) ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einstein lbert Einstein On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.comwrote: Our s24o with CocoBill got lost in the mix due to weather and a crowded schedule. Have fun in the Los Padres. --Smitty On Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:11:08 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Calling all hearty Riv Riders. For me at least this will be my last overnight for 2013 and I figure as next year my resolution is to do one a month,12-S240's or The S240 a month club...yeah it's easier on my finances than the Bike a Month Club but perhaps it will have it's own challenges like work schedule and honey do lists among other obligations, but I digress...the ride is planned for the Mount Gleason area weather permitting, the details are herehttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aVV3Hgh-vTw which are the original post. Mr. Shiller AKA the BigSchill over Flickr yonder and I have worked out a alternate ride if as I mentioned before above the weather doesn't cooperate. If the low temp at Mill Creek Summit is let's say in the low 30's (not all have the gear for that temperature) then we'll call it for the following alt-ride. Start Ventura out the Ventura river trail to the Ojai Valley bike path extension through Ojai, 33N to Forest route 5N13 to Matilija Campground 27 miles with obvious climbing. I am told Robhttp://oceanaircycles.com/about-2/about/ Perks of Ocean Air Cycles did this ride earlier in the year.The directions are herehttps://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Ventura,+CAdaddr=Matilija+Campground,+Ventura,+CAhl=ensll=34.521126,-119.353065sspn=0.088538,0.154324geocode=FVD9CgIds7Xk-ClNOZdQFa3pgDHo6no2fPXvJA%3BFcGuDgIdHWXi-CkZQSnmUKDpgDHtrV9eE9PxVAoq=ventura+cat=hgl=usdirflg=bmra=ltmz=11lci=bike . I figure we can call the ride by Wednesday the 11th if the forecast looks dismal so there's time to make travel arraingments Note: I'd like to get an early ride out time for plenty of leisure read that as photo op's, rest breaks, snacks and because it gets dark early make camp with some day light left. So how does an 8am start sound? I'll be driving up since it's only an hour or so drive for me. I understand if taking off a Friday is difficult for some but then who really needs to work on a Friday anyways! And for those of you who loads of free time here's something to do, ride with good people get back to nature (frosty as it maybe) and in the end have a good meal and some brews at the Anacapa Brewing Co. in DT Ventura. Sounding better! All right! Let's do it. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Eistein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Deacon, Thanks any time I get to camp I always have a blast. I have a 25+ bag which I recently re-lofted and purchased a VBL so I'll be fine. There are others that don't have said gear so I was thinking of them. I don't know if we can do the fire thing in the Los Padres Forest as they want an official fire ring these days. So if there is one a fire there will be. Personally I like to do a stealth camp with no fire pits. Where I grew up we made our fires and knew how not to burn the place down. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einsteinlbert Eistein On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Have a blast! As a hint, most any 40˚F bag with a vapor barrier and extra clothes (especially sweaters and hats) can work down into the 20's for most people, particularly with the combination of happy thoughts. So while you may not have a cold weather bag, you can layer up and do fine. Especially if you have a camp fire for evening (which promotes said happy thoughts). Enjoy! With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, December 5, 2013 6:11:08 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Calling all hearty Riv Riders. For me at least this will be my last overnight for 2013 and I figure as next year my resolution is to do one a month,12-S240's or The S240 a month club...yeah it's easier on my finances than the Bike a Month Club but perhaps it will have it's own challenges like work schedule and honey do lists among other obligations, but I digress...the ride is planned for the Mount Gleason area weather permitting, the details are herehttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/aVV3Hgh-vTw which are the original post. Mr. Shiller AKA the BigSchill over Flickr yonder and I have worked out a alternate ride if as I mentioned before above the weather doesn't cooperate. If the low temp at Mill Creek Summit is let's say in the low 30's (not all have the gear for that temperature) then we'll call it for the following alt-ride. Start Ventura out the Ventura river trail to the Ojai Valley bike path extension through Ojai, 33N to Forest route 5N13 to Matilija Campground 27 miles with obvious climbing. I am told Robhttp://oceanaircycles.com/about-2/about/ Perks of Ocean Air Cycles did this ride earlier in the year.The directions are herehttps://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Ventura,+CAdaddr=Matilija+Campground,+Ventura,+CAhl=ensll=34.521126,-119.353065sspn=0.088538,0.154324geocode=FVD9CgIds7Xk-ClNOZdQFa3pgDHo6no2fPXvJA%3BFcGuDgIdHWXi-CkZQSnmUKDpgDHtrV9eE9PxVAoq=ventura+cat=hgl=usdirflg=bmra=ltmz=11lci=bike . I figure we can call the ride by Wednesday the 11th if the forecast looks dismal so there's time to make travel arraingments Note: I'd like to get an early ride out time for plenty of leisure read that as photo op's, rest breaks, snacks and because it gets dark early make camp with some day light left. So how does an 8am start sound? I'll be driving up since it's only an hour or so drive for me. I understand if taking off a Friday is difficult for some but then who really needs to work on a Friday anyways! And for those of you who loads of free time here's something to do, ride with good people get back to nature (frosty as it maybe) and in the end have a good meal and some brews at the Anacapa Brewing Co. in DT Ventura. Sounding better! All right! Let's do it. ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Eistein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal Overnighter AKA S240 December 13 14th
Thanks for confirming what I was pretty sure of just not 100%. Ahhh to live in a tinder box. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- A http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/9810.Albert_Einsteinlbert Eistein On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: Campfires are prohibited still in the Los Padres NF but stoves are allowed in designated camp sites. We had a dry winter last year so fire restrictions are in place. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/MQZZkfgdix0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.