Re: [RBW] Re: Stolen S. Hillborne reunited with owner

2014-09-14 Thread cyclotourist
Yeah, those leafblowers suck. Er, blow,

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal




On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 11:40 AM, sameness samen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nah, it's LA we're talking about. The closest thing to public intervention
 on private property is the threat of a bad Yelp review or a scathing
 Facebook post.

 Maybe the formation of a Pilates Moms Against Bike Theft  Leaf Blowers
 taskforce.

 Had I tried to sell some organic produce without the proper chain of
 custody, there'd be blood in the streets.

 Jeff Hagedorn
 Los Angeles, CA USA

 On Saturday, September 13, 2014 8:30:00 AM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote:

 Jeff - did anybody intervene or question you why you were walking away
 with a locked bike?  After all, you could have been a thief!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Stolen S. Hillborne reunited with owner

2014-09-12 Thread Jim Bronson
This is slightly off topic, but

I wish I could say that bike thieves in my area were mainly drug-needy.
Unfortunately we have have had several rashes of high end bike thefts that
generally occur in more upscale close-in neighbohoods.  The thieves tend to
hit several garages in the same neighborhoods until they either are stopped
or decide to hit a different neighborhood.

There was one series of thefts where the guy was actually a road biker and
would befriend people on group rides with the most expensive bikes and
later steal those same bikes!  The police finally caught him though red
handed and IIRC he was nabbed with several hundred thousand dollars worth
of bikes in his possession.

I'm not sure if many people who are focused on high end racing bikes would
know what to think of a Rivendell, but an astute thief certainly would.

It makes me sad that we even have to post about this stuff.

Until we can send all the bike thieves to Jabba the Hut's Great *Pit* of
Carkoon where they will be slowly digested over a thousand years, be
careful of who's peeking in your garage.

-Jim


On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 4:42 AM, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote:

 I have no idea how the food chain of locks plays in the typical drug-needy
 bike thief, they are looking for items to sell fast, at a known price. Here
 the police responding to a friend's break-in said there are dealer of hot
 goods that frequent certain convenience store parking lots  and have sort
 of a fixed price wholesale trade; CDs $3, DVDs $5, laptops $50, and bikes
 usually trade from junkie thieves for $20. I don't think the aforethought
 of a cordless angle grinder and ability to spot a secluded-enough bike to
 chop free occurs in this criminal subset. The good news about this tier of
 thief is that they are not discriminating, any bike will score them the
 same price.

 Someone willing to fight better security of location and locking is a
 bike-specific thief and those rings do move around regions to hit the
 value, fill their till and move on before their pattern is clear to
 enforcement. Info on the guy with Rusty Clicks Sam will be interesting to
 hear. one of those rings and individuals making contacts locally,
 establishing a background that built  plausibility for higher volume of
 parts and frames for sale. They disappear when someone starts asking
 questions.

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
 On Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:00:15 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote:

 On Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:46:54 AM UTC-7, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
 wrote:

 Which raises an interesting question, since many of us use
 U-locks-and-cable approaches.  Are there ways of locking up with a U-lock
 (preferrably a smallish one) that defeat most methods of defeating the
 things?

 Simple answer: No.

 An angle grinder will cut through any u-lock pretty quickly. You can see
 videos on youtube of how fast it is. I've seen a titanium lock -- Tigr IIRC
 -- that will delay an angle grinder longer, but still isn't uncuttable. It
 sounds like the recovered Sam had it's lock picked or else not latched
 completely.


 jim m
 wc ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: Stolen S. Hillborne reunited with owner

2014-09-12 Thread Goshen Peter
Sad but true. I can remember in Brooklyn if I was within 10 blocks of my
place and someone asked me about the Bombadil I would just say it was some
old steel bike I got from the shop that they had laying around. Didn't want
to advertise I had a bike work a few grand sitting in my most of the day
unoccupied apartment hallway.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is slightly off topic, but

 I wish I could say that bike thieves in my area were mainly drug-needy.
 Unfortunately we have have had several rashes of high end bike thefts that
 generally occur in more upscale close-in neighbohoods.  The thieves tend to
 hit several garages in the same neighborhoods until they either are stopped
 or decide to hit a different neighborhood.

 There was one series of thefts where the guy was actually a road biker and
 would befriend people on group rides with the most expensive bikes and
 later steal those same bikes!  The police finally caught him though red
 handed and IIRC he was nabbed with several hundred thousand dollars worth
 of bikes in his possession.

 I'm not sure if many people who are focused on high end racing bikes would
 know what to think of a Rivendell, but an astute thief certainly would.

 It makes me sad that we even have to post about this stuff.

 Until we can send all the bike thieves to Jabba the Hut's Great *Pit* of
 Carkoon where they will be slowly digested over a thousand years, be
 careful of who's peeking in your garage.

 -Jim


 On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 4:42 AM, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote:

 I have no idea how the food chain of locks plays in the typical
 drug-needy bike thief, they are looking for items to sell fast, at a known
 price. Here the police responding to a friend's break-in said there are
 dealer of hot goods that frequent certain convenience store parking lots
  and have sort of a fixed price wholesale trade; CDs $3, DVDs $5, laptops
 $50, and bikes usually trade from junkie thieves for $20. I don't think the
 aforethought of a cordless angle grinder and ability to spot a
 secluded-enough bike to chop free occurs in this criminal subset. The good
 news about this tier of thief is that they are not discriminating, any bike
 will score them the same price.

 Someone willing to fight better security of location and locking is a
 bike-specific thief and those rings do move around regions to hit the
 value, fill their till and move on before their pattern is clear to
 enforcement. Info on the guy with Rusty Clicks Sam will be interesting to
 hear. one of those rings and individuals making contacts locally,
 establishing a background that built  plausibility for higher volume of
 parts and frames for sale. They disappear when someone starts asking
 questions.

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
 On Thursday, September 11, 2014 12:00:15 PM UTC-4, Jim M. wrote:

 On Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:46:54 AM UTC-7, Andrew
 Marchant-Shapiro wrote:

 Which raises an interesting question, since many of us use
 U-locks-and-cable approaches.  Are there ways of locking up with a U-lock
 (preferrably a smallish one) that defeat most methods of defeating the
 things?

 Simple answer: No.

 An angle grinder will cut through any u-lock pretty quickly. You can see
 videos on youtube of how fast it is. I've seen a titanium lock -- Tigr IIRC
 -- that will delay an angle grinder longer, but still isn't uncuttable. It
 sounds like the recovered Sam had it's lock picked or else not latched
 completely.


 jim m
 wc ca

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Re: [RBW] Re: Stolen S. Hillborne reunited with owner

2014-09-11 Thread Jim Bronson
It's unfortunate to have a nice bike like a Rivendell that you can't take
places and lock up.  I would never entrust mine to a U-lock.  I ride my
junky old Nishiki if want to ride somewhere but have a need to lock up.


On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Rusty Click click...@gmail.com wrote:

 Early on, cutting the tube was assumed on the BikePGH.org thread.  After
 he recovered his Sam, with no damage to the tube, the owner now thinks  the
 thief defeated the U-lock somehow.



 On Thursday, September 11, 2014 9:21:32 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 wow! Happy ending, and thanks to a great LBS.

 Did the thief cut the under-tube?



 On Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:33:30 AM UTC-4, Rusty Click wrote:

 My favorite LBS in Pittsburgh is *Thick Bikes *.  This is not the first
 time they have played a key role in recognizing a stolen bike, and while
 it's up on the rack, notify local police to come and nab the perp!   I go
 out of my way to use them as my LBS when my Sam needs some attention.

 *Way to Go, Thick Bikes!*

 Stolen Rivendell recovered at Thick Bikes when thieves try to sell it.

 stolen bike report:
 http://bikepgh.org/mb/topic/bikes-reported-stolen-2014/
 page/5/#post-301324

 arrest photo:
 http://instagram.com/p/sx3E1CrKfu/

 reunited:
 http://instagram.com/p/sx3OAyrKQH/


 Rusty Click
 Pittsburgh, PA

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