Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-25 Thread Michael Flournoy


Quote: a short beard wards off those people, especially if it's grey  
white :-).  Rear view mirror, wool socks w/sandals

Ahem...Apparently I was drinking the KoolAid before I even knew there was a 
guy named Peterson. : )  

It's not so much we've been sold on something as being reassured you're 
maybe OK after all.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-25 Thread Hugh Smitham
It's not so much we've been sold on something as being reassured you're
maybe OK after all. Yes that's it isn't it.

~Hugh

Hugh
Sunland, Ca


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m...@sewlesstraveled.comwrote:



 Quote: a short beard wards off those people, especially if it's grey 
 white :-).  Rear view mirror, wool socks w/sandals

 Ahem...Apparently I was drinking the KoolAid before I even knew there was
 a guy named Peterson. : )

 It's not so much we've been sold on something as being reassured you're
 maybe OK after all.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-11 Thread Patrick Moore
It's a Jim Jones/Jonestown reference.


On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:45 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Remember, drinking the koolaid doesn't mean you agree with some
 opinion-maker.  Drinking the koolaid means you agree with some
 opinion-maker WITHOUT THINKING FOR YOURSELF.  If you have your own opinions
 and just happen to agree with Grant on some of them, you didn't drink the
 koolaid.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-11 Thread William
I know where the term originated.  The phrase is now used metaphorically, 
not literally.  I pointed out that metaphorical meaning and I think you 
know that meaning.  What exactly is your point?

On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:35:44 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 It's a Jim Jones/Jonestown reference.


 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:45 AM, William tape...@gmail.com javascript:
  wrote:

 Remember, drinking the koolaid doesn't mean you agree with some 
 opinion-maker.  Drinking the koolaid means you agree with some 
 opinion-maker WITHOUT THINKING FOR YOURSELF.  If you have your own opinions 
 and just happen to agree with Grant on some of them, you didn't drink the 
 koolaid.  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-11 Thread Patrick Moore
William -- please don't be so touchy! I was pointing out to all readers in
case some might not know the origin (note the reference earlier to the Tom
Wolfe term).




On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:49 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know where the term originated.  The phrase is now used metaphorically,
 not literally.  I pointed out that metaphorical meaning and I think you
 know that meaning.  What exactly is your point?

 On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:35:44 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 It's a Jim Jones/Jonestown reference.


 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:45 AM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote:

 Remember, drinking the koolaid doesn't mean you agree with some
 opinion-maker.  Drinking the koolaid means you agree with some
 opinion-maker WITHOUT THINKING FOR YOURSELF.  If you have your own opinions
 and just happen to agree with Grant on some of them, you didn't drink the
 koolaid.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-11 Thread William
Not touchy in the slightest.  I use exclamation points when I get touchy. 
 When I'm merely interrogative I use question marks.

Thanks for explaining that your post was not a reply to me but a public 
service to those who didn't know the idiom.  

On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:44:34 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 William -- please don't be so touchy! I was pointing out to all readers in 
 case some might not know the origin (note the reference earlier to the Tom 
 Wolfe term).




 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:49 AM, William tape...@gmail.com javascript:
  wrote:

 I know where the term originated.  The phrase is now used metaphorically, 
 not literally.  I pointed out that metaphorical meaning and I think you 
 know that meaning.  What exactly is your point?

 On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:35:44 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 It's a Jim Jones/Jonestown reference.


 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:45 AM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote:

 Remember, drinking the koolaid doesn't mean you agree with some 
 opinion-maker.  Drinking the koolaid means you agree with some 
 opinion-maker WITHOUT THINKING FOR YOURSELF.  If you have your own 
 opinions 
 and just happen to agree with Grant on some of them, you didn't drink the 
 koolaid.  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-11 Thread William
Speaking of fun idioms and their sources, I just learned where the word 
SCOFFLAW came from.  Does anyone else know (without looking it up)?  Go 
ahead and look it up.  It's an amusing story, to me at least.  

On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:55:37 AM UTC-7, William wrote:

 Not touchy in the slightest.  I use exclamation points when I get touchy. 
  When I'm merely interrogative I use question marks.

 Thanks for explaining that your post was not a reply to me but a public 
 service to those who didn't know the idiom.  

 On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:44:34 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 William -- please don't be so touchy! I was pointing out to all readers 
 in case some might not know the origin (note the reference earlier to the 
 Tom Wolfe term).




 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:49 AM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know where the term originated.  The phrase is now used 
 metaphorically, not literally.  I pointed out that metaphorical meaning and 
 I think you know that meaning.  What exactly is your point?

 On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:35:44 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 It's a Jim Jones/Jonestown reference.


 On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:45 AM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote:

 Remember, drinking the koolaid doesn't mean you agree with some 
 opinion-maker.  Drinking the koolaid means you agree with some 
 opinion-maker WITHOUT THINKING FOR YOURSELF.  If you have your own 
 opinions 
 and just happen to agree with Grant on some of them, you didn't drink the 
 koolaid.  


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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-10 Thread ascpgh
A guy who rides with our Tuesday evening group comes with his bike in his 
decrepit old hatchback, but his other car is a Lotus Elise, which is funny 
to me. It is the auto equivalent of the ultra-llight weight racing bike for 
smooth pavement only, no ability to carry a bike or luggage. Car Kool-Aid, 
but he rides a Richard Sachs CX bike with a JB paint job, subscribes to BQ 
and is a committed lugged steel bike guy who continues to give any bike a 
try that is available for a test ride. I think he has been to at least the 
last six or seven Cirques du Cyclism and always asks if  I am available for 
D2R2 (not this year).

If I am more of a generalist, seeking greatest utility of my purchases, 
then I have a Kool-Aid smile too. And a Subaru wagon, a first year Ram with 
aluminum fenders, an English leather saddle and try to travel with what I 
can fit in and on my Nelson Long flap.

Andy Cheatham 
Pittsburgh

On Monday, September 9, 2013 9:46:00 PM UTC-4, meehan...@gmail.com wrote:

 If the person making the comment is riding an over-geared, uncomfortable, 
 ultra-light-weight racing bike that is of no use on anything other than 
 smooth pavement, with no tire clearance, no fender clearance, and no 
 ability to mount racks or bags, while wearing shoes that make it difficult 
 for them to walk, and is not actively participating in a bike race; then 
 who has drunk the Koolaid?

 Shaun Meehan


 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Eric Platt eperic...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Around here, a short beard, grey  white, will probably get the comment - 
 so you work for Surly?Only have had a couple of comments over the 
 years on my Rivendell bikes.  And they are usually by riders either on 
 custom steel frames, or fixed-gear messenger types.  Most regular 
 cyclists around here have no idea or interest in Rivendell.  
  
 While there are a lot of modern technology bikes around here, there are 
 still a lot of riders on steel.  Surly, old Trek and now All City being the 
 three I most often notice.  In fact, All City may be making a push to 
 replace the Surly Cross Check as what I would consider the ubiquitous Twin 
 Cities bicycle.
 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN


 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:47 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net javascript:wrote:

 Even a short beard wards off those people, especially if it's grey  
 white :-).  Rear view mirror, wool socks w/sandals  they don't even have 
 to see your bike to just know.  

 dougP



  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread Curtis McKenzie
I will second the beard thing.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:06 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 My suggestion is grow a ridiculously long beard and the comments
 cease...chalk it up to a crazy guy on a bike.

 ~Hugh

 On Thursday, September 5, 2013 1:33:04 PM UTC-7, Corwin Booth wrote:

 I was trying to think of some clever reference to the Electric Kool Aid
 Acid Test, but failed.

 Probably the *only* think I don't like about riding my Hilsen are the
 occasional snarky comments about having imbibed in the Petersen Kool Aid.
 Never mind that everyone knows that we drink miruvor, or that I just happen
 to agree with riding with normal shoes, fenders, the largest saddlebag
 I've ever seen! (that was another comment, not uttered in an entirely
 friendly way), after years of experience...

 So I really want to respond by saying something about how this person or
 that drank the clipless Kool Aid, or the skinny tire Kool Aid, or the
 plastic saddle Kool Aid, and certainly the Karbon Kool Aid. But I never do.

 I'll bet other folks on this list have experienced this phenomenon...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread dougP
Even a short beard wards off those people, especially if it's grey  
white :-).  Rear view mirror, wool socks w/sandals  they don't even have 
to see your bike to just know.  

dougP

On Monday, September 9, 2013 10:13:13 AM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:

 I will second the beard thing. 


 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 10:06 AM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 My suggestion is grow a ridiculously long beard and the comments 
 cease...chalk it up to a crazy guy on a bike.

 ~Hugh 

 On Thursday, September 5, 2013 1:33:04 PM UTC-7, Corwin Booth wrote:

 I was trying to think of some clever reference to the Electric Kool Aid 
 Acid Test, but failed.

 Probably the *only* think I don't like about riding my Hilsen are the 
 occasional snarky comments about having imbibed in the Petersen Kool Aid. 
 Never mind that everyone knows that we drink miruvor, or that I just happen 
 to agree with riding with normal shoes, fenders, the largest saddlebag 
 I've ever seen! (that was another comment, not uttered in an entirely 
 friendly way), after years of experience...

 So I really want to respond by saying something about how this person or 
 that drank the clipless Kool Aid, or the skinny tire Kool Aid, or the 
 plastic saddle Kool Aid, and certainly the Karbon Kool Aid. But I never do.

 I'll bet other folks on this list have experienced this phenomenon...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread Eric Platt
Around here, a short beard, grey  white, will probably get the comment -
so you work for Surly?Only have had a couple of comments over the
years on my Rivendell bikes.  And they are usually by riders either on
custom steel frames, or fixed-gear messenger types.  Most regular
cyclists around here have no idea or interest in Rivendell.

While there are a lot of modern technology bikes around here, there are
still a lot of riders on steel.  Surly, old Trek and now All City being the
three I most often notice.  In fact, All City may be making a push to
replace the Surly Cross Check as what I would consider the ubiquitous Twin
Cities bicycle.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


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 Even a short beard wards off those people, especially if it's grey 
 white :-).  Rear view mirror, wool socks w/sandals  they don't even have
 to see your bike to just know.

 dougP






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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread Shaun Meehan
If the person making the comment is riding an over-geared, uncomfortable,
ultra-light-weight racing bike that is of no use on anything other than
smooth pavement, with no tire clearance, no fender clearance, and no
ability to mount racks or bags, while wearing shoes that make it difficult
for them to walk, and is not actively participating in a bike race; then
who has drunk the Koolaid?

Shaun Meehan


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Around here, a short beard, grey  white, will probably get the comment -
 so you work for Surly?Only have had a couple of comments over the
 years on my Rivendell bikes.  And they are usually by riders either on
 custom steel frames, or fixed-gear messenger types.  Most regular
 cyclists around here have no idea or interest in Rivendell.

 While there are a lot of modern technology bikes around here, there are
 still a lot of riders on steel.  Surly, old Trek and now All City being the
 three I most often notice.  In fact, All City may be making a push to
 replace the Surly Cross Check as what I would consider the ubiquitous Twin
 Cities bicycle.
 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN


 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:47 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Even a short beard wards off those people, especially if it's grey 
 white :-).  Rear view mirror, wool socks w/sandals  they don't even have
 to see your bike to just know.

 dougP





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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread Patrick Moore
Please, let's not build up our own little corners of zealotry. I know more
than a few friendly riders who put in far more miles than I do in billboard
lycra and on billboard carbon fiber. Not my taste, but they are not all
posers or dupes.

Y'all behave or I'll post another photo of Reg Harris.

Patrick no beard; pony tail Moore, in bike-friendly, live-and-let-live
ABQ, NM who rides (in summer) in street shorts and Hawaiian shirts (at
least until he can afford to buy a couple Ground Effect jerseys from NZ.


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote:

 If the person making the comment is riding an over-geared, uncomfortable,
 ultra-light-weight racing bike that is of no use on anything other than
 smooth pavement, with no tire clearance, no fender clearance, and no
 ability to mount racks or bags, while wearing shoes that make it difficult
 for them to walk, and is not actively participating in a bike race; then
 who has drunk the Koolaid?

 Shaun Meehan


 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Around here, a short beard, grey  white, will probably get the comment -
 so you work for Surly?Only have had a couple of comments over the
 years on my Rivendell bikes.  And they are usually by riders either on
 custom steel frames, or fixed-gear messenger types.  Most regular
 cyclists around here have no idea or interest in Rivendell.

 While there are a lot of modern technology bikes around here, there are
 still a lot of riders on steel.  Surly, old Trek and now All City being the
 three I most often notice.  In fact, All City may be making a push to
 replace the Surly Cross Check as what I would consider the ubiquitous Twin
 Cities bicycle.
 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN


 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:47 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Even a short beard wards off those people, especially if it's grey 
 white :-).  Rear view mirror, wool socks w/sandals  they don't even have
 to see your bike to just know.

 dougP





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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread Shaun Meehan
Not trying to build a bastion of zealotry. Not at all. I have friends that
wear spandex and ride plastic bikes. My point is that those guys are very
likely more influenced by industry marketing and hype than your average
Rivendell (or any other practical bike) rider. So who are they to be making
accusations of Koolaid drinking?

Shaun Meehan



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 Please, let's not build up our own little corners of zealotry. I know more
 than a few friendly riders who put in far more miles than I do in billboard
 lycra and on billboard carbon fiber. Not my taste, but they are not all
 posers or dupes.

 Y'all behave or I'll post another photo of Reg Harris.

 Patrick no beard; pony tail Moore, in bike-friendly, live-and-let-live
 ABQ, NM who rides (in summer) in street shorts and Hawaiian shirts (at
 least until he can afford to buy a couple Ground Effect jerseys from NZ.


 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.comwrote:

 If the person making the comment is riding an over-geared, uncomfortable,
 ultra-light-weight racing bike that is of no use on anything other than
 smooth pavement, with no tire clearance, no fender clearance, and no
 ability to mount racks or bags, while wearing shoes that make it difficult
 for them to walk, and is not actively participating in a bike race; then
 who has drunk the Koolaid?

 Shaun Meehan


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 Around here, a short beard, grey  white, will probably get the comment
 - so you work for Surly?Only have had a couple of comments over the
 years on my Rivendell bikes.  And they are usually by riders either on
 custom steel frames, or fixed-gear messenger types.  Most regular
 cyclists around here have no idea or interest in Rivendell.

 While there are a lot of modern technology bikes around here, there are
 still a lot of riders on steel.  Surly, old Trek and now All City being the
 three I most often notice.  In fact, All City may be making a push to
 replace the Surly Cross Check as what I would consider the ubiquitous Twin
 Cities bicycle.
 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN


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 Even a short beard wards off those people, especially if it's grey 
 white :-).  Rear view mirror, wool socks w/sandals  they don't even have
 to see your bike to just know.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread Hugh Smitham
The cult of SoCal Riv riders a beer  drinking we will go...err pedal.

~Hugh I Love the froth on my stash Smitham



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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread cyclotourist
Speaking of such... September in Santa Monica is always nice...

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 The cult of SoCal Riv riders a beer  drinking we will go...err pedal.

 ~Hugh I Love the froth on my stash Smitham



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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread cyclotourist
14, 15, 18, 19 anyone?

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 Speaking of such... September in Santa Monica is always nice...

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 The cult of SoCal Riv riders a beer  drinking we will go...err pedal.

 ~Hugh I Love the froth on my stash Smitham



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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread Hugh Smitham
Oh David twist my arm. I'm free on Saturday the 22nd.



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  The cult of SoCal Riv riders a beer  drinking we will go...err pedal.
 
  ~Hugh I Love the froth on my stash Smitham
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread James Warren

Tell-me-my-next-duty-for-the-greater-good.


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 ~Hugh I Love the froth on my stash Smitham
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread cyclotourist
I'm probably not around that weekend.

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 Oh David twist my arm. I'm free on Saturday the 22nd.



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  ~Hugh I Love the froth on my stash Smitham
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread Hugh Smitham
How about the 14th or 28th?



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 I'm probably not around that weekend.

 On 9/9/13, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
  Oh David twist my arm. I'm free on Saturday the 22nd.
 
 
 
  Hugh
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   The cult of SoCal Riv riders a beer  drinking we will go...err pedal.
  
   ~Hugh I Love the froth on my stash Smitham
  
  
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread Mike Schiller
I'm open any day except the 14th.  Fridays are better as theer are more 
Metrolink trains scheduled but I can make Sat or Sun work too.  

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On Monday, September 9, 2013 8:18:56 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 14, 15, 18, 19 anyone? 

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  ~Hugh I Love the froth on my stash Smitham 
  
  
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread Hugh Smitham
Let's make a separate post for this anyone? I'll do it if no one wants to
plan it. Let me know?

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 I'm open any day except the 14th.  Fridays are better as theer are more
 Metrolink trains scheduled but I can make Sat or Sun work too.

 ~mike

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 14, 15, 18, 19 anyone?

 On 9/9/13, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
  Speaking of such... September in Santa Monica is always nice...
 
  On 9/9/13, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote:
  The cult of SoCal Riv riders a beer  drinking we will go...err pedal.
 
  ~Hugh I Love the froth on my stash Smitham
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread cyclotourist
15th?

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 I'm open any day except the 14th.  Fridays are better as theer are more
 Metrolink trains scheduled but I can make Sat or Sun work too.

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 14, 15, 18, 19 anyone?

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  Speaking of such... September in Santa Monica is always nice...
 
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  The cult of SoCal Riv riders a beer  drinking we will go...err pedal.
 
  ~Hugh I Love the froth on my stash Smitham
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread Hugh Smitham
Yeah Sunday won't work for me unless we start really early and get off the
bikes by 12 noon...I'm out on a Sunday I don't want to rush myself or
anyone else.

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 15th?

 On 9/9/13, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
  I'm open any day except the 14th.  Fridays are better as theer are more
  Metrolink trains scheduled but I can make Sat or Sun work too.
 
  ~mike
 
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  14, 15, 18, 19 anyone?
 
  On 9/9/13, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:
   Speaking of such... September in Santa Monica is always nice...
  
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   ~Hugh I Love the froth on my stash Smitham
  
  
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread James Warren

All Sundays are bad for me. Saturday's about all I can do.


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 15th?
 
 On 9/9/13, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 I'm open any day except the 14th.  Fridays are better as theer are more
 Metrolink trains scheduled but I can make Sat or Sun work too.
 
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 14, 15, 18, 19 anyone?
 
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 Speaking of such... September in Santa Monica is always nice...
 
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 The cult of SoCal Riv riders a beer  drinking we will go...err pedal.
 
 ~Hugh I Love the froth on my stash Smitham
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-09 Thread cyclotourist
Saturdays nix Brian, would be nice to get him to a ride in his back
yard there, but Sundays seem to be rough for everyone else. I'm okay
either, but Sats are preferred.

On 9/9/13, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:

 All Sundays are bad for me. Saturday's about all I can do.


 On Sep 9, 2013, at 8:57 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

 15th?

 On 9/9/13, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 I'm open any day except the 14th.  Fridays are better as theer are more
 Metrolink trains scheduled but I can make Sat or Sun work too.

 ~mike

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 14, 15, 18, 19 anyone?

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 Speaking of such... September in Santa Monica is always nice...

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 The cult of SoCal Riv riders a beer  drinking we will go...err pedal.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

2013-09-08 Thread Robert Barr
It took George's note from Australia to motivate me to respond. Aside from
the bicycle pump, Wollongong and Indianapolis sound similar, even down to a
bit of rust belt heritage. As I read the earlier responses I kept thinking
that I have never had anything but compliments about my Hungapillar, but
then I think the only riders that might want to disparage the bike, seem to
ride on Tuesday and Thursday nights - and then only as a group off to
themselves, whereas I am a commuter and not a pack animal...If I were an
ethnosociologist I might find all this really interesting. Bob


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 I have drunk the Kool Aid and I'm proud of it.  My Atlantis is the perfect
 road bike for me, a sixty plus trundler of a cyclist who enjoys riding and
 couldn't give a hot buttered stuff for racing.  My other bikes are a
 Specialized Shark beach cruiser which is essential as I live on a beach in
 Australia and a Birdy folding bike for which I'm waiting delivery.  The
 Shark has a Brooks B68, King Cage and a Carradice and I'm planning a whole
 lot of other Rivendell bling for it and the Birdy.



 Wollongong is a rust belt city by the sea that used to be a steel town
 and is fast becoming a University town.  We have a wide range of cycle
 styles meeting down by the beach for an espresso.  However, the serious
 lycra set meet at Diggies café and the rest of us meet at the North Beach
 Kiosk.  Both cafes are part of the same building and run by the same
 management but serious lycra does not speak to the Others.  That is their
 problem and their Kool Aid, I would include the rather earthy Australian
 retort for these people but it would probably grossly offend a lot of
 innocent people.  It has something to do with inserting their bicycle pump
 in the most inappropriate part of their anatomy for reasons of self
 gratification.  But you must realise that Australians have always been
 rather blunt and to the point.

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