Re: [RBW] Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

2017-05-23 Thread Eric Norris 
Ah … the “greater fool” theory: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_fool_theory 
 

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> On May 23, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Orc  wrote:
> 
> More hassle than throwing them into a dumpster.   I suspect that what BG 
> wants is for one of the more-money-than-god-less-sense-than-a-cat .com 
> billionaires that infest the bay area to throw down some pocket change, then 
> show up with a moving truck and get the things out of his hair.   And they 
> won't do that unless they think that it's a rare & valuable collection that 
> they're getting at a steal from an eccentric genius.   Which it is.  And he 
> is.  And maybe it's a steal.   It's not much more than a Tesla, and I'd say 
> they've got more value for money than it would have.
> 
> 
> -david parsons
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 8:28:32 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
> He’s going to take a potentially valuable bicycle collection to the recycler 
> for scrap? That strikes me as either monumentally stupid or something done in 
> a fit of pique. What’s wrong with selling them?
> 
> --Eric Norris
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>> On May 22, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Evan Baird  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Cross Post from BOB
>> 
>> Hey Everybody. I spoke with Bruce Gordon again this afternoon and he still 
>> hasn't found a buyer for his shop. My partner Norma and I decided that we 
>> want to try to raise the money to turn BG Cycles into a frame building 
>> school and bike touring museum and open it to the public. I think what Bruce 
>> is asking is an insanely low amount of one of the most respected names in 
>> custom bicycles and I think that he deserves a comfortable retirement after 
>> everything he's done for the American Bike Industry. If you can't support us 
>> directly please help us spread the word about our crowdfunding campaign. We 
>> have about a month to pull this off, after which Bruce told me he's just 
>> going to take his bicycle collection to the recyclers and scrap the lot. I 
>> really believe he intends to do that, and I would break my heart to see such 
>> beautiful and historical bikes get destroyed.
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.gofundme.com/save-bruce-gordon-cycles 
>> 
>> 
>>  
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Re: [RBW] Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

2017-05-23 Thread Orc 
More hassle than throwing them into a dumpster.   I suspect that what BG 
wants is for one of the more-money-than-god-less-sense-than-a-cat .com 
billionaires that infest the bay area to throw down some pocket change, 
then show up with a moving truck and get the things out of his hair.   And 
they won't do that unless they think that it's a rare & valuable collection 
that they're getting at a steal from an eccentric genius.   Which it is. 
 And he is.  And maybe it's a steal.   It's not much more than a Tesla, and 
I'd say they've got more value for money than it would have.


-david parsons


On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 8:28:32 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> He’s going to take a potentially valuable bicycle collection to the 
> recycler for scrap? That strikes me as either monumentally stupid or 
> something done in a fit of pique. What’s wrong with selling them?
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On May 22, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Evan Baird  
> wrote:
>
> Cross Post from BOB
>
> Hey Everybody. I spoke with Bruce Gordon again this afternoon and he still 
> hasn't found a buyer for his shop. My partner Norma and I decided that we 
> want to try to raise the money to turn BG Cycles into a frame building 
> school and bike touring museum and open it to the public. I think what 
> Bruce is asking is an insanely low amount of one of the most respected 
> names in custom bicycles and I think that he deserves a comfortable 
> retirement after everything he's done for the American Bike Industry. If 
> you can't support us directly please help us spread the word about our 
> crowdfunding campaign. We have about a month to pull this off, after which 
> Bruce told me he's just going to take his bicycle collection to the 
> recyclers and scrap the lot. I really believe he intends to do that, and I 
> would break my heart to see such beautiful and historical bikes get 
> destroyed.
>
>
> https://www.gofundme.com/save-bruce-gordon-cycles
>
>
> 
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Re: [RBW] Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

2017-05-23 Thread Christopher Murray 
He seems like an interesting guy. I highly doubt he's going to recycle his 
bikes- that seems like an idle threat. Why not raffle them off? Sell some 
tickets for $10 or $25. Have a minimum number of tickets you'd need to sell. 
Winners pay shipping. Or how about offering something to commemorate his 
retirement? A picture of him riding off into the sunset on a fully loaded bike? 
If he signed them I think a lot of people would be interested. I think there is 
a lot of potential here to raise enough funds for a comfy retirement. 

Cheers,
Chris

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Re: [RBW] Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

2017-05-23 Thread Brewster Fong 


On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 8:28:32 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> He’s going to take a potentially valuable bicycle collection to the 
> recycler for scrap? That strikes me as either monumentally stupid or 
> something done in a fit of pique. What’s wrong with selling them?
>

I think the problem is BG expects his bikes to fetch top dollar. I remember 
seeing pictures of his collection 10 years ago and the numerous awards he 
won. But there were a couple of problems with his bikes. First, Bruce is a 
big guy and rides a 61cm or something like that. So that narrows the 
market.  Second, he wants a lot for his bikes. Now, I don't blame him as 
his work is fabulous. But, when you're asking $7k to $10K or more, well the 
market gets really small, especially for steel. Yes, Richard Sachs and 
Sasha White/Vanilla can command $6K/frameset, but they're the exception.   
Here's a few examples of his work:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fJhGNCfBn0Y/V1r1UbJBUgI/BLY/ivSDccAWoDgydhkjADq6uT2ws30nZkLRQCLcB/s1600/Picture%2B005.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vuHrbMAltWg/V1r1RdbBHVI/BLI/eqaSdrnpDMwCmOFq22ISj8HQXqkK9YE4QCKgB/s1600/jbl_030407_NAHBS_1084.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JnO-tW2_nB0/S8jQ9Ig0sHI/AIo/DXJWAmlYM-c/s1600/XA7I0020.JPG

Here are some photos of his collection:

http://urbanvelo.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/IMG_0734.jpg

http://www.bicycleretailer.com/sites/default/files/styles/colorbox_popup/public/images/article/Bruce%20Gordon%20Bicycle%20Gallery.jpg?itok=1pcJZ_CX

Good Luck! 



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> On May 22, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Evan Baird  
> wrote:
>
> Cross Post from BOB
>
> Hey Everybody. I spoke with Bruce Gordon again this afternoon and he still 
> hasn't found a buyer for his shop. My partner Norma and I decided that we 
> want to try to raise the money to turn BG Cycles into a frame building 
> school and bike touring museum and open it to the public. I think what 
> Bruce is asking is an insanely low amount of one of the most respected 
> names in custom bicycles and I think that he deserves a comfortable 
> retirement after everything he's done for the American Bike Industry. If 
> you can't support us directly please help us spread the word about our 
> crowdfunding campaign. We have about a month to pull this off, after which 
> Bruce told me he's just going to take his bicycle collection to the 
> recyclers and scrap the lot. I really believe he intends to do that, and I 
> would break my heart to see such beautiful and historical bikes get 
> destroyed.
>
>
> https://www.gofundme.com/save-bruce-gordon-cycles
>
>
> 
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Re: [RBW] Save Bruce Gordon Cycles

2017-05-23 Thread Eric Norris 
He’s going to take a potentially valuable bicycle collection to the recycler 
for scrap? That strikes me as either monumentally stupid or something done in a 
fit of pique. What’s wrong with selling them?

--Eric Norris
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@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

> On May 22, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Evan Baird  wrote:
> 
> Cross Post from BOB
> 
> Hey Everybody. I spoke with Bruce Gordon again this afternoon and he still 
> hasn't found a buyer for his shop. My partner Norma and I decided that we 
> want to try to raise the money to turn BG Cycles into a frame building school 
> and bike touring museum and open it to the public. I think what Bruce is 
> asking is an insanely low amount of one of the most respected names in custom 
> bicycles and I think that he deserves a comfortable retirement after 
> everything he's done for the American Bike Industry. If you can't support us 
> directly please help us spread the word about our crowdfunding campaign. We 
> have about a month to pull this off, after which Bruce told me he's just 
> going to take his bicycle collection to the recyclers and scrap the lot. I 
> really believe he intends to do that, and I would break my heart to see such 
> beautiful and historical bikes get destroyed.
> 
> 
> https://www.gofundme.com/save-bruce-gordon-cycles 
> 
> 
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