Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Slin]

Nice, thanks, Nick! I hadn't seen Sheldon Brown videos before. If that 
video were made today, it would be a red Voile Strap.

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 10:24:08 PM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:

> See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo7RJqaUdhg. I used to fold wire bead 
> touring tyres like this and then wrap them in duct tape to keep them folded 
> and protected while being carried on tours until needed. I've carried such 
> tyres around for years before needing to use them, and always found them in 
> pristine condition when I finally unwrapped them for use. Here's one being 
> carried on the outside of my panniers during a transcontinental tour across 
> Australia in 1982:
> [image: Scan-110420-0053.jpg]
>
> Nick
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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Ezri Rose]

Pirateship looks like it might even be cheaper than eBay's discounted 
rates, thanks for the tip!

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 2:39:34 PM UTC-4 cycli...@gmail.com wrote:

> Plus 1 on the Pirateship.com recommendation.  Used to ship via USPS.com 
> but Pirateship.com gives the best price between USPS and UPS.  Also, you 
> can ship via 1st Class mail if the package is light enough. USPS.com only 
> allowed Priority, so you can save a lot on light stuff.
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 8:31:02 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Also check out www.pirateship.com, free to make an account and can save 
>> a lot in shipping costs!
>>
>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:38:17 AM UTC-7 ezre...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you all for the wonderful advice, this will help tremendously. 
>>> Nick, when you say wrapped, you really meant it, that tyre looks like it's 
>>> for a Brompton it's so small! Now I'm confident that I can ship these 
>>> without damage or an exorbitant shipping fee.
>>> Ezri
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 1:24:08 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>>>
 See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo7RJqaUdhg. I used to fold wire 
 bead touring tyres like this and then wrap them in duct tape to keep them 
 folded and protected while being carried on tours until needed. I've 
 carried such tyres around for years before needing to use them, and always 
 found them in pristine condition when I finally unwrapped them for use. 
 Here's one being carried on the outside of my panniers during a 
 transcontinental tour across Australia in 1982:
 [image: Scan-110420-0053.jpg]

 Nick

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[David Person]

Plus 1 on the Pirateship.com recommendation.  Used to ship via USPS.com but 
Pirateship.com gives the best price between USPS and UPS.  Also, you can 
ship via 1st Class mail if the package is light enough. USPS.com only 
allowed Priority, so you can save a lot on light stuff.

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 8:31:02 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Also check out www.pirateship.com, free to make an account and can save a 
> lot in shipping costs!
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:38:17 AM UTC-7 ezre...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for the wonderful advice, this will help tremendously. 
>> Nick, when you say wrapped, you really meant it, that tyre looks like it's 
>> for a Brompton it's so small! Now I'm confident that I can ship these 
>> without damage or an exorbitant shipping fee.
>> Ezri
>>
>> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 1:24:08 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo7RJqaUdhg. I used to fold wire 
>>> bead touring tyres like this and then wrap them in duct tape to keep them 
>>> folded and protected while being carried on tours until needed. I've 
>>> carried such tyres around for years before needing to use them, and always 
>>> found them in pristine condition when I finally unwrapped them for use. 
>>> Here's one being carried on the outside of my panniers during a 
>>> transcontinental tour across Australia in 1982:
>>> [image: Scan-110420-0053.jpg]
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Ryan Frahm]

Also check out www.pirateship.com, free to make an account and can save a 
lot in shipping costs!

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:38:17 AM UTC-7 ezre...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you all for the wonderful advice, this will help tremendously. Nick, 
> when you say wrapped, you really meant it, that tyre looks like it's for a 
> Brompton it's so small! Now I'm confident that I can ship these without 
> damage or an exorbitant shipping fee.
> Ezri
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 1:24:08 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo7RJqaUdhg. I used to fold wire 
>> bead touring tyres like this and then wrap them in duct tape to keep them 
>> folded and protected while being carried on tours until needed. I've 
>> carried such tyres around for years before needing to use them, and always 
>> found them in pristine condition when I finally unwrapped them for use. 
>> Here's one being carried on the outside of my panniers during a 
>> transcontinental tour across Australia in 1982:
>> [image: Scan-110420-0053.jpg]
>>
>> Nick
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Ezri Rose]

Thank you all for the wonderful advice, this will help tremendously. Nick, 
when you say wrapped, you really meant it, that tyre looks like it's for a 
Brompton it's so small! Now I'm confident that I can ship these without 
damage or an exorbitant shipping fee.
Ezri

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 1:24:08 AM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:

> See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo7RJqaUdhg. I used to fold wire bead 
> touring tyres like this and then wrap them in duct tape to keep them folded 
> and protected while being carried on tours until needed. I've carried such 
> tyres around for years before needing to use them, and always found them in 
> pristine condition when I finally unwrapped them for use. Here's one being 
> carried on the outside of my panniers during a transcontinental tour across 
> Australia in 1982:
> [image: Scan-110420-0053.jpg]
>
> Nick
>

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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Fold them into 1/3 the original size. Kind of like folding a windscreen 
sunshade, if you’ve ever done that.

--Eric Norris
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> On Oct 15, 2022, at 6:20 PM, Ezri Rose  wrote:
> 
> Eric, when you say folded, is that over in half once? I shipped something out 
> yesterday, and the post office rounded up one dimension from 12.1 inches to 
> 13, and that made the price jump from $24 to 41, so every inch is counting 
> these days!
> 
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:54:24 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
> I e shooed folded beaded tires many times. It doesn’t hurt them. 
> 
> –Eric N
> 
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Garth > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no bigger 
>> than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're worried, 
>> but good tape should suffice. 
> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>>  wrote:
>> You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different shapes. 
>> If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a razor/box 
>> opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps to the 
>> size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I messed up a 
>> few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that ships oddly 
>> shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. 
>> 
>> Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes that 
>> people ship art in? 
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> Ben 
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose > wrote:
>> Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" 
>> studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no 
>> idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right? 
>> Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to Florida 
>> 
>> Ezri,
>> Merritt Island, FL
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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Ray Varella]

To fold a wire bead tire without damaging the bead is what we used to do 
before folding tires were ubiquitous. 
With the tire horizontal in front of you, reach under the the part closest 
to you (we’ll call that 6:00 o’clock), slide your hand all the way across 
(let’s call that 12:00 o’clock), reach up over the top and as you pull that 
portion of the tire towards you and you get about 2/3rds of the way across, 
flip the other two ears over and you should quickly end up with three 
loops. 
Does that make sense?
I don’t think I have any wire bead tires here to make a video but I’ll 
check. 

It’s a very easy method and because it’s forming something like a figure 8 
with an additional loop, it doesn’t crease or kink the bead. 

Ray
On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:20:37 PM UTC-7 ezre...@gmail.com wrote:

> Eric, when you say folded, is that over in half once? I shipped something 
> out yesterday, and the post office rounded up one dimension from 12.1 
> inches to 13, and that made the price jump from $24 to 41, so every inch is 
> counting these days!
>
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:54:24 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> I e shooed folded beaded tires many times. It doesn’t hurt them. 
>>
>> –Eric N
>>
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Garth  wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no 
>> bigger than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're 
>> worried, but good tape should suffice. 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different 
>>> shapes. If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a 
>>> razor/box opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps 
>>> to the size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I 
>>> messed up a few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that 
>>> ships oddly shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. 
>>>
>>> Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes 
>>> that people ship art in? 
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Ben 
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose  wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" 
 studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no 
 idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, 
 right? 
 Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to 
 Florida 
 Ezri,
 Merritt Island, FL

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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Ezri Rose]

Eric, when you say folded, is that over in half once? I shipped something 
out yesterday, and the post office rounded up one dimension from 12.1 
inches to 13, and that made the price jump from $24 to 41, so every inch is 
counting these days!

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 6:54:24 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> I e shooed folded beaded tires many times. It doesn’t hurt them. 
>
> –Eric N
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Garth  wrote:
>
> Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no bigger 
> than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're worried, 
> but good tape should suffice. 
>
>
> On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different 
>> shapes. If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a 
>> razor/box opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps 
>> to the size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I 
>> messed up a few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that 
>> ships oddly shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. 
>>
>> Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes 
>> that people ship art in? 
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Ben 
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" 
>>> studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no 
>>> idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right? 
>>> Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to 
>>> Florida 
>>> Ezri,
>>> Merritt Island, FL
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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

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I e shooed folded beaded tires many times. It doesn’t hurt them. –Eric NOn Oct 15, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Garth  wrote:Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no bigger than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're worried, but good tape should suffice. On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different shapes. If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a razor/box opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps to the size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I messed up a few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that ships oddly shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes that people ship art in? Good luck,Ben On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose  wrote:Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right? Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to Florida Ezri,Merritt Island, FL



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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Garth]

Yeah, basically use a box cutter to literally make a custom box no bigger 
than the tires. You can use some hot glue for integrity if you're worried, 
but good tape should suffice. 

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 5:35:07 PM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different 
> shapes. If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a 
> razor/box opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps 
> to the size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I 
> messed up a few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that 
> ships oddly shaped things now and then), but it's do-able. 
>
> Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes that 
> people ship art in? 
>
> Good luck,
> Ben 
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26" 
>> studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no 
>> idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right? 
>> Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to 
>> Florida 
>> Ezri,
>> Merritt Island, FL
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Re: [RBW] Tire shipping advice

[Ben Mihovk]

You can get creative with how you cut cardboard boxes into different
shapes. If you find one big enough to lay the tires down in, you can use a
razor/box opener to cut down the corners of the box and then trim the flaps
to the size you need. It's really hard to explain and it's something I
messed up a few times before I could do it well (I work in a golf shop that
ships oddly shaped things now and then), but it's do-able.

Otherwise, you could try to find unwanted TV boxes or cardboard boxes that
people ship art in?

Good luck,
Ben

On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 4:20 PM Ezri Rose  wrote:

> Does anyone have experience shipping wire bead tyres? I have some 26"
> studded Schwalbe Marathon winter tyres I would like to sell. But I have no
> idea how to ship them. It's probably not good for them to fold them, right?
> Selling them locally isn't an option, as I've moved from Colorado to
> Florida 
> Ezri,
> Merritt Island, FL
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