Re: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags?
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > No idea about how Arkel bags work, but the Nashbar Elite comes with a > plastic KlickFix type bracket that I think may be similar. I adapted a > Nashbar Elite bag for use with a Velo Orange decaleur by drilling out > the rivets and removing the plastic KlickFix bracket, and installing the > bag-mounted part of the VO decaleur to the bag with screws, with a > plastic reinforcement behind the fabric. Somewhat similar but there's no need to drill it out as the mounting hardware is screwed on already. You can make out some of the detail through the pictures on Arkel's website: http://www.arkel-od.com/us/all-categories/handlebar-bag/big-bar-bike-bag.html#!/more-details I believe that both Mike Barry and David Feldman used the holes that are already in the bag (and through both the aluminum frame and the plastic shell) for attaching their hardware. -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags?
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 12:47 -0700, Forrest wrote: > Ken -- I'd like to know more about how you adapted your Arkel Big Bar > Bags to fit on front racks. Not so tough to affix them > semi-permanently, but I'm looking for an elegant solution for quick > on-and-off using a rack. I do not like the Arkel system for affixing > the bag to the handlebar, though it is rock-solid. Too high, though, > and why not use the front rack if you've got it? -- Forrest (Iowa > City) No idea about how Arkel bags work, but the Nashbar Elite comes with a plastic KlickFix type bracket that I think may be similar. I adapted a Nashbar Elite bag for use with a Velo Orange decaleur by drilling out the rivets and removing the plastic KlickFix bracket, and installing the bag-mounted part of the VO decaleur to the bag with screws, with a plastic reinforcement behind the fabric. I also did some modification of the bag with a razor blade, cutting off some straps and removing the "floor" between the upper and lower compartments. It worked well for a couple of years, until finally the zipper failed. The zipper was always the weak part of the bag, and it was balky from day 1. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags?
Ken -- I'd like to know more about how you adapted your Arkel Big Bar Bags to fit on front racks. Not so tough to affix them semi-permanently, but I'm looking for an elegant solution for quick on-and-off using a rack. I do not like the Arkel system for affixing the bag to the handlebar, though it is rock-solid. Too high, though, and why not use the front rack if you've got it? -- Forrest (Iowa City) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/98EVOyNVA5AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags?
I can agree with all that has been said and will add that I have many put miles on my Rambouillet using one of the largest Berthoud handle bar bags. The key here is that bikes are optimized for certain things but this doesn't mean that aren't adequate for others. I do notice the bag when climbing a 12% grade at 4mph especially when I am well into a 600km ride. This is a very small percentage of the time that I am on the bike and once I am over 5 or 6 mph I don't notice the bag. I do keep my tools in a rear bag which helps minimize the weight up front. The ability to reach food, a hat or arm warmers while riding can't be beat and there is no better place for a map or queue sheet then the top of the bag. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:29:10 -0700 From: seandes...@earthlink.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags? I've been admiring bags and racks on the Rivendell Flicker site: http://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell/pool/tags/ahomerhilsen/ and have been pondering the purchase of a larger bag. I've used Acorn Saddlebags for awhile now and have been generally content so,why do so many people like front rando bags instead of saddlebags? Doesn't the weight foil your quick steering ability? And isn't it always better to have weight low and in the rear for stabililty? Thanks for your comments and a favorite bag if you've found one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CR1_CPoZC-kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags?
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 19:29 -0700, Shifty wrote: > I've been admiring bags and racks on the Rivendell Flicker site: > http://www..flickr.com/groups/rivendell/pool/tags/ahomerhilsen/ and > have been pondering the purchase of a larger bag. I've used Acorn > Saddlebags for awhile now and have been generally content so,why do so > many people like front rando bags instead of saddlebags? It's extremely convenient to have your gear where you can get at it while you are riding, or while you've stopped and are straddling the bike, vs. stopping, getting off, parking the bike, going around the back and opening the bag to get at things. > Doesn't the weight foil your quick steering ability? No, not if the geometry of the bike is appropriate for carrying a front bag. Not all bikes are designed to carry a front bag. > And isn't it always better to have weight low and in the rear for > stabililty? No. That's fine for rear loaders. Bikes designed to be loaded in front work differently. > Thanks for your comments and a favorite bag if you've found one. I have a couple of Gilles Berthoud bags, the GB28 and the 2886. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] why do people like front rando bags?
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Shifty wrote: > I've been admiring bags and racks on the Rivendell Flicker site: > http://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell/pool/tags/ahomerhilsen/ and have been > pondering the purchase of a larger bag. I've used Acorn Saddlebags for > awhile now and have been generally content so,why do so many people like > front rando bags instead of saddlebags? Doesn't the weight foil your quick > steering ability? And isn't it always better to have weight low and in the > rear for stabililty? Thanks for your comments and a favorite bag if you've > found one. I'm not sure what you mean by "front rando bag". Do you mean a largish handlebar bag supported on a rack? If so then I've got to say I love them, though I use them (at least on the Mariposa) with a saddlebag, not instead of. If the bike is designed for them the handling is just fine. Even with a load in my handlebar bag (my tools are always there + miscellany) the Mariposa is the lightest handling bike I've _ever_ ridden. It's simply amazing. But it was designed from the ground up with that bag in mind. Both the tandem and the Mariposa have Arkel large handlebar bags that have been modified to fit on custom racks. The bikes are also both on the short side of medium for trail (about 45mm) but I don't know what else affects their handling. The tandem, of course, doesn't handle the same way as the Mariposa but it's not bad at all, and a **lot** better with that handlebar bag than the Erickson that it replaced. OTOH, the Erickson is very nice with light loads and narrower tires that I typically use. -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
