[TANKS] Full Metal

[j chilton]

I have been working on building a 1/6 scale Shinhoto Chi Ha for some time
now, however early on into my project I have encountered some difficulties.
I have been working with soft cold rolled metal, cutting torches, and a
saw. The metal is roughly 2mm thick, and has a tendency to warp when it is
cut with a blade, or melt uncontrollably when the torch is used on it.

How do you guys cut larger pieces of metal accurately?

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Re: [TANKS] Re: SU-76 rolling out

[j chilton]

Very nice. The suspension seems similar to a bell crank/ carden loyd type.

On 27 April 2015 at 14:23, TyngTech  wrote:

> FANTASTIC JOB!
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 27, 2015 at 2:18:22 PM UTC-4, Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello guys,
>>
>> I finaly put my tank hull into a working condition!!  It's been long
>> since the last time I post some news of it...
>>
>> I first made a stupid mistake when pluging my batterys to finally blow up
>> my ESC, the C12C I had and some more element and wires...
>>
>> After re-purchase all component and receive a new C12C thank to the super
>> after market service from Frank I finally made some test on my running gear.
>>
>> I had a lot of ajustement to make with the tracks and the suspension but
>> there is the video of what it look like.
>>
>> I had  to buy a new futuba controler and receiver cause the C12C work
>> superbly but I had some signal difficulty using a wireless PS2 controller
>> probably due to the aluminium hull...
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI4tNkiUXNs
>>
>>
>> Report of my video footage :
>>
>> - I will have to try if it's better to use a directly 3d printed ABS
>> srocket wheels cause the Smooth-Cast 305 sprocket I made are a little too
>> dry on impacts...
>>
>> -redesign of the inner track pad to get stronger guides theets
>>
>> -redesign of the outter track to get a simple flat pad ( everybody said
>> it, myself too but I get too much traction on grass and when turning and I
>> just rip the grass off
>>   putting too much pressure on the track theeths and my running gear...
>>
>> -The MPSS3 suspension from Field of Armor Tanks unit work perfectly!!!
>>
>> -Work on my idlers wheels cause they both does not perfectly aligns with
>> the rest of roadwheels.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope you enjoy the video!!
>>
>> Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
>>
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[TANKS] Re: Starting out.

[j chilton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laXWFlgnSrk
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI09DBFNUWo
For those of you who are unfamiliar with Japanese tanks, or who would just
appreciate seeing film of them.

On 25 February 2015 at 22:01, j chilton  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have been planning to build a Japanese Type 97 Chi Ha Kai (and Type 95
> Ha Go) for a long time now, and I am extremely happy that this project will
> finally be launched. First however, I have never built anything like this
> before (they will be made of metal) so I have decided to build some test
> chassis out of cold rolled steel. I am looking for a good suspension set up
> at the moment, something simple but efficient. Later will come the Bell
> Crank suspension...
>
> Thanks all of you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> James.
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[TANKS] Starting out.

[j chilton]

Hello all,

I have been planning to build a Japanese Type 97 Chi Ha Kai (and Type 95 Ha
Go) for a long time now, and I am extremely happy that this project will
finally be launched. First however, I have never built anything like this
before (they will be made of metal) so I have decided to build some test
chassis out of cold rolled steel. I am looking for a good suspension set up
at the moment, something simple but efficient. Later will come the Bell
Crank suspension...

Thanks all of you.

Sincerely,

James.

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Re: [TANKS] Re: Chi Ha

[j chilton]

Thanks for the advise Chris. I think I'm going to have the parts laser cut
and I have a fair amount of tools at my disposal so hopefully all will go
well and I will wind up with a very scale looking and detailed tank.




On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Chris. b  wrote:

> http://tankcombat.blogspot.com.au/ that is a tank I am building, there is
> a little bit of information there about steel fabrication.
>
> I like steel as it is the easiest for me to work with as my shop is setup
> for steel fabrication. I honestly think the weight saved with aluminium is
> minimal, if compared to a well designed steel hull, obviously steel is
> heavy so try and use as little as possible! I have most of my parts laser
> cut, as it saves me a lot of time and increases accuracy. With that said,
> if you are willing to spend the time you could achieve the same result with
> an angle grinder, pedestal drill and mig welder. Other tools that aren't
> needed but would make it easier, a sheet metal guillotine, plasma cutter,
> oxy acetylene torch, linisher, bandsaw  etc.
>
> Chris. b
>
>
> On Wednesday, 24 December 2014 02:31:18 UTC+10:30, j chilton wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm new to this hobby but I have experience in other similar ones (rc
>> planes mainly). I would like to build one of these tanks and I have read a
>> lot of the articles on how to build them, including the ones on the rc tank
>> combat website. I have one complication however, My only option for the
>> moment would be to build the tank out of metal and I cannot find any good
>> how to articles on that. Can any one offer any advice or anything else?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> James.
>>
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Re: [TANKS] Chi Ha

[j chilton]

How much did that cost you?

On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:35 AM, j chilton  wrote:

> Nice. I think that's what I'll do then. Did they curve any pieces of the
> armor for you or did you have to do that your self? (assuming that the
> Abrams has any pieces of curved armour.)
>
> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:26 AM,  wrote:
>
>> I took the drawings to my local metal supply shop and had them cut it out
>> for me. The 1/6 Abrams hull and turret in 20 gage steel was only about $40.
>>
>> Tod
>>
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>> *To: *rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 24, 2014 12:54:31 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [TANKS] Chi Ha
>>
>> when people cut their pieces of metal to the proper size for their tanks,
>> what kind of tools are most commonly used?
>>
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Re: [TANKS] Chi Ha

[j chilton]

Nice. I think that's what I'll do then. Did they curve any pieces of the
armor for you or did you have to do that your self? (assuming that the
Abrams has any pieces of curved armour.)

On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:26 AM,  wrote:

> I took the drawings to my local metal supply shop and had them cut it out
> for me. The 1/6 Abrams hull and turret in 20 gage steel was only about $40.
>
> Tod
>
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> *To: *rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 24, 2014 12:54:31 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [TANKS] Chi Ha
>
> when people cut their pieces of metal to the proper size for their tanks,
> what kind of tools are most commonly used?
>
>
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Re: [TANKS] Chi Ha

[j chilton]

when people cut their pieces of metal to the proper size for their tanks,
what kind of tools are most commonly used?

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:50 PM, OdysseySlipways via R/C Tank Combat <
rctankcombat@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>  interesting - i'll have to keep that in mind
>
>  In a message dated 12/23/2014 10:45:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> jc22...@gmail.com writes:
>
> yeah. Just use aluminium flux and argon gas.
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:32 PM, OdysseySlipways via R/C Tank Combat <
> rctankcombat@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>>  now not trying to side-track your thread, (mind you i don't weld) are
>> you saying that a wire-fed welder can be used (along with the right gas
>> bottle) can be used to weld aluminum?
>>
>> chris
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Re: [TANKS] Chi Ha

[j chilton]

yeah. Just use aluminium flux and argon gas.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:32 PM, OdysseySlipways via R/C Tank Combat <
rctankcombat@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>  now not trying to side-track your thread, (mind you i don't weld) are
> you saying that a wire-fed welder can be used (along with the right gas
> bottle) can be used to weld aluminum?
>
> chris
>
>  In a message dated 12/23/2014 9:57:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> jc22...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Slight problem with that Idea. My welder does not have any equipment to
> use the necessary argon gas to weld aluminum. I'm stuck with steel I guess.
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, isaac goldman 
> wrote:
>
>> aluminum is much harder to weld; electric arc welding conductive
>> materials...
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:09 PM, OdysseySlipways via R/C Tank Combat <
>> rctankcombat@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  i don't know about welding but have heard it's different from welding
>>> steel.
>>>
>>> as to cost... i guess that depends on how you want to look at it, it may
>>> cost you a bit more (specially if you go for thicker or stronger aluminum)
>>> but comparing it to what it may weigh is you used steel would be the most
>>> important trade off  - or so i would think.
>>>
>>>  In a message dated 12/23/2014 7:03:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> jc22...@gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> True. But is it more expensive or harder to work with?
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM, OdysseySlipways via R/C Tank Combat <
>>> rctankcombat@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
  weight and doesn't rust

  In a message dated 12/23/2014 6:59:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 jc22...@gmail.com writes:

 I see a lot of guys have opted for Aluminium. I am planning on using
 cold rolled steel, does Aluminium offer any perks?

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Re: [TANKS] Chi Ha

[j chilton]

Slight problem with that Idea. My welder does not have any equipment to use
the necessary argon gas to weld aluminum. I'm stuck with steel I guess.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, isaac goldman 
wrote:

> aluminum is much harder to weld; electric arc welding conductive
> materials...
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:09 PM, OdysseySlipways via R/C Tank Combat <
> rctankcombat@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>  i don't know about welding but have heard it's different from welding
>> steel.
>>
>> as to cost... i guess that depends on how you want to look at it, it may
>> cost you a bit more (specially if you go for thicker or stronger aluminum)
>> but comparing it to what it may weigh is you used steel would be the most
>> important trade off  - or so i would think.
>>
>>  In a message dated 12/23/2014 7:03:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> jc22...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>> True. But is it more expensive or harder to work with?
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:03 PM, OdysseySlipways via R/C Tank Combat <
>> rctankcombat@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  weight and doesn't rust
>>>
>>>  In a message dated 12/23/2014 6:59:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> jc22...@gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> I see a lot of guys have opted for Aluminium. I am planning on using
>>> cold rolled steel, does Aluminium offer any perks?
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Re: [TANKS] Chi Ha

[j chilton]

True. But is it more expensive or harder to work with?

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>  weight and doesn't rust
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Re: [TANKS] Chi Ha

[j chilton]

Any ways,
I see a lot of guys have opted for Aluminium. I am planning on using cold
rolled steel, does Aluminium offer any perks?

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 3:48 PM, j chilton  wrote:

> Sorry Bill, looks like you will continue to be lonely in Florida. I live
> in Nor Cal.
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 2:49 PM, 'Bill Byrnes' via R/C Tank Combat <
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>> Hi James,
>>
>> In what state do you live?  (please say Florida, please say Florida)
>>
>> Bill, lonely in Florida
>>
>>   --
>>  *From:* j chilton 
>> *To:* rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:01 AM
>> *Subject:* [TANKS] Chi Ha
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I'm new to this hobby but I have experience in other similar ones (rc
>> planes mainly). I would like to build one of these tanks and I have read a
>> lot of the articles on how to build them, including the ones on the rc tank
>> combat website. I have one complication however, My only option for the
>> moment would be to build the tank out of metal and I cannot find any good
>> how to articles on that. Can any one offer any advice or anything else?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> James.
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Re: [TANKS] Chi Ha

[j chilton]

Sorry Bill, looks like you will continue to be lonely in Florida. I live in
Nor Cal.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 2:49 PM, 'Bill Byrnes' via R/C Tank Combat <
rctankcombat@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> In what state do you live?  (please say Florida, please say Florida)
>
> Bill, lonely in Florida
>
>   ------
>  *From:* j chilton 
> *To:* rctankcombat@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:01 AM
> *Subject:* [TANKS] Chi Ha
>
> Hi all,
> I'm new to this hobby but I have experience in other similar ones (rc
> planes mainly). I would like to build one of these tanks and I have read a
> lot of the articles on how to build them, including the ones on the rc tank
> combat website. I have one complication however, My only option for the
> moment would be to build the tank out of metal and I cannot find any good
> how to articles on that. Can any one offer any advice or anything else?
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> James.
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[TANKS] Chi Ha

[j chilton]

Hi all,
I'm new to this hobby but I have experience in other similar ones (rc 
planes mainly). I would like to build one of these tanks and I have read a 
lot of the articles on how to build them, including the ones on the rc tank 
combat website. I have one complication however, My only option for the 
moment would be to build the tank out of metal and I cannot find any good 
how to articles on that. Can any one offer any advice or anything else?



Sincerely,

James.

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