Re: [RDA-L] Some more examples of qualified conventional collective titles

2013-12-23 Thread Adger Williams
Adam,
We're so old-fashioned we still have cataloguing staff looking at the
LC records.  We find adequate reasons to do so.  Along with catching
various infelicities, we add our local practice at this point.


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Adam L. Schiff asch...@u.washington.eduwrote:

 Who does the removing?  In our workflow, LC copy goes through a quick
 cataloging process in Acquisitions  Rapic Cataloging Division, and never
 sees the eyes of complex copy or original cataloger.  That is, most of
 these records are processed either by machine or by student workers.  Do
 you go back and find them later and delete them?  In any case, that would
 not work for us because our catalog records are based on the master record
 in OCLC and whatever is there is the data that comes into our shared
 consortial catalog.  Any changes made by anyone in OCLC to a record we have
 holdings on will be propagated into our consortial catalog, so to get rid
 of CCTs we'd have to delete them in the OCLC master record, and should
 someone put them back in, we'd get them right back.

 Adam Schiff
 University of Washington Libraries

 On Fri, 20 Dec 2013, Adger Williams wrote:

  Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 08:37:18 -0500
 From: Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.edu

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 titles

 Aren't conventional collective titles really Form/Genre headings?  (Poems.
 Selections, vs. Essays Selections, vs. Works Selections)

 Would they not serve their function less confusingly if we treated them
 that way?

 FWIW, my institution has been removed CCTs from LC records ever since the
 abandonment of the AACR2 rule about distinctive titles.  Very seldom
 does
 it require more than a moment's thought.


 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Bernhard Eversberg e...@biblio.tu-bs.de
 wrote:

  Am 20.12.2013 13:37, schrieb Heidrun Wiesenm?ller:



 I think the interesting point to note is that not everything which
 consists of several works by the same person is in fact a compilation
 of works. Rather, in the case of...


 This is the sort of casuistry we've never envied AACR users for.
 Let's get serious about the A aspect in RDA and treat titles as
 such, as titles, always, because end-users will always search for
 those titles because they find them cited as such, and noch
 concocted and perturbed in ways they'd never imagine.
 Add conventional collected titles at leisure (if you find any),
 or rather use machine-actionable codes wherever possible, but leave the
 titles alone.

 If we can't get away from the old spirit of cataloging that was
 based on unit descriptions on 3x5 cards and on filing rules that were
 not even part of AACR, then RDA is really a waste of time and will
 create more nuisance than usefulness.

 B.Eversberg


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Re: [RDA-L] Happy Holidays from this mountain top log house

2013-12-23 Thread J. McRee Elrod
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Re: [RDA-L] Happy Holidays from this mountain top log house

2013-12-23 Thread Gaye DAgata
Nice.  I enjoy the views, but I've never been tempted to live among them.
But I have always admired you mountain dwellers.

Gaye D'Agata


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must try to contribute joy to the world.  That is true no matter what our
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