Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Elizabeth O'Keefe]

Yes. Notated music comes in portfolios, so, I believe, do some maps.

Liz O'Keefe


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 5:13 PM, J. McRee Elrod  wrote:

> Thomas Brenndoffer suggested:
>
> >Suggestion for revision...
> >
> >Portfolio: A unit of extent of text or extent of still image that is a
> >container 
>
> We most often encounter this with sheet music.  Rather than a laundry
> list of what might be in a portfolio, how about:
>
> Portfolio: A unit of extent for sheets in a folder like container ...
>
> Many of the portfolios we encounter are not two "covers" fastened at
> one side, but rather an accordion type folder with a flap.
>
>
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>



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Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Kathie Coblentz]

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:20:31 -0400, JSC Chair  wrote:

>In RDA "Extent" applies to the physical things that make up the resource
>you are cataloging and how many there are.  See 3.4.1.1: "Extent is the
>number and type of units and/or subunits making up a resource."
>Extent of text is a subset of terms that may be used when your resource is
>a text.

>Barbara Tillett
>JSC Chair
>

Thanks for the clarification. I have no problem understanding what is meant by 
"extent." I have a problem with understanding why "portfolio" is defined as a 
"unit of extent of text," when the definition goes on to make it clear that the 
"subunits" comprising the contents of a portfolio are often entirely devoid of 
textual content. 

I hope I'm not sounding disrespectful here. I do realize that everything in RDA 
is the result of much hard labor, discussion, debate and writing, re-writing 
and more re-writing on the part of everyone involved. I accept that in the long 
run, its proper application will make the data we produce better and more 
useful to the various communities we attempt to serve.

It's just that I thought I had a pretty good grasp of RDA's basics, but now 
that I am attempting to apply it in practice every day, I find it more and more 
difficult to follow some of its twistings and turnings to the logical and 
practical solutions I need for the material in hand. I've read enough of the 
discussions on this list to know that I am far from being the only one in this 
boat.


Kathie Coblentz, Rare Materials Cataloger
Collections Strategy/Special Formats Processing
The New York Public Library, Stephen A. Schwarzman Building
5th Avenue and 42nd Street, Room 313
New York, NY  10018
kathiecoble...@nypl.org

My opinions, not NYPL's

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[J. McRee Elrod]

Thomas Brenndoffer suggested:

>Suggestion for revision...
>
>Portfolio: A unit of extent of text or extent of still image that is a 
>container 

We most often encounter this with sheet music.  Rather than a laundry
list of what might be in a portfolio, how about:

Portfolio: A unit of extent for sheets in a folder like container ...

Many of the portfolios we encounter are not two "covers" fastened at
one side, but rather an accordion type folder with a flap.


   __   __   J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca)
  {__  |   / Special Libraries Cataloguing   HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/
  ___} |__ \__

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Kathie Coblentz]

The more I read of RDA and the various attempts to elucidate it, the more I am 
reminded of a remark by a novice cataloger (but highly intelligent and cultured 
human being) whom I supervised some years ago, in the glory days of AACR 2. I 
had told him to change something in one of his records, and to look up the 
explanation in AACR 2. He retorted, "That thing's not written in English."

If the English usage in AACR 2 had its peculiarities, that in RDA is in some 
places almost unalloyed peculiarity. Or what do we make of a formulation like 
"extent of still image"? I understand why "still image" is in the singular in 
the content type element. Here, "image" is a type of content. (On the other 
hand, I don't understand why we have "content type" and "carrier type," both 
with the attributive noun in the singular, but "media type," with a plural 
attributive noun. But that is a lament for another day.)

But would any normal speaker of English understand "extent of still image" 
(assuming he/she understood the pedantic retro-formation "still image" at all) 
to mean anything but the dimensions of a single picture? And yet, in RDA-speak, 
it is a counting thing. Under the rubric "Extent of still image," one is 
instructed to "Record the extent of a resource consisting of one or more still 
images by giving the number of units," plus a term from the list that follows.

It is as if the keepers of baseball statistics decided to rename one of the 
more familiar ones "Extent of run batted in (EORBI)." 

Sorry, but it is Friday, after all.

Kathie Coblentz, Rare Materials Cataloger
Collections Strategy/Special Formats Processing
The New York Public Library, Stephen A. Schwarzman Building
5th Avenue and 42nd Street, Room 313
New York, NY  10018
kathiecoble...@nypl.org

My opinions, not NYPL's

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[JSC Chair]

In RDA "Extent" applies to the physical things that make up the resource
you are cataloging and how many there are.  See 3.4.1.1: "Extent is the
number and type of units and/or subunits making up a resource."
Extent of text is a subset of terms that may be used when your resource is
a text.

If you have a different view of what a "portfolio" is, please suggest it to
your JSC representative for the broader community to consider - for you in
the US, your JSC representative is Kathy Glennan ( kglen...@umd.edu ).  For
people in other countries see the JSC Web page for the list of the JSC
representatives ( http://www.rda-jsc.org/members.html ).  If your country
is not represented on the JSC, you are always welcome to write directly to
the JSC Chair (for now that is me) at jscch...@rdatoolkit.org .

This applies to any suggestion you may have for improvements to RDA.  -
Barbara Tillett
JSC Chair


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Kathie Coblentz  wrote:

> May I take the occasion to point out another confusing definition in the
> RDA glossary?
>
> "Portfolio: A unit of extent of text that is a container for holding loose
> materials (e.g., paintings, drawings, papers, unbound sections of a book,
> and similar materials) usually consisting of two covers joined together at
> the back."
>
> There is something I'm not getting about how the RDA mind works. If
> something is "a unit of extent of text," how can it be a container for,
> e.g., paintings? I was driven back to the definition of "text" to see if
> maybe somehow it includes non-verbal images, but no, it's "Content
> expressed through a form of notation for language intended to be perceived
> visually." Though I suppose one picture IS worth a thousand words, so maybe
> that's how they figure it.
>
> I'm also not too pleased with that "usually consisting of two covers
> joined together at the back" (which was taken over from the AACR 2
> glossary). I've seen a lot of portfolios in my time, and relatively few
> look like that. Actually, come to think of it, I'm not even sure what it
> means. Two covers? The RDA definition of "cover" is "The outer protective
> material attached to a volume, consisting of both sides of the front and
> back panels and the spine to which they are joined."
>
> 
> Kathie Coblentz, Rare Materials Cataloger
> Collections Strategy/Special Formats Processing
> The New York Public Library, Stephen A. Schwarzman Building
> 5th Avenue and 42nd Street, Room 313
> New York, NY  10018
> kathiecoble...@nypl.org
>
> My opinions, not NYPL's
>



-- 
Dr. Barbara B. Tillett, Ph.D.
Chair, Joint Steering Committee for Development of RDA

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Brenndorfer, Thomas]

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kathie Coblentz [kcobl...@nypl.org]
Sent: July-26-13 11:58 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

>May I take the occasion to point out another confusing definition in the RDA 
>glossary?

>"Portfolio: A unit of extent of text that is a container for holding loose 
>materials (e.g., paintings, drawings, >papers, unbound sections of a book, and 
>similar materials) usually consisting of two covers joined together at >the 
>back."

>There is something I'm not getting about how the RDA mind works. If something 
>is "a unit of extent of text," >how can it be a container for, e.g., 
>paintings? I was driven back to the definition of "text" to see if maybe 
>>somehow it includes non-verbal images, but no, it's "Content expressed 
>through a form of notation for >language intended to be perceived visually." 
>Though I suppose one picture IS worth a thousand words, so >maybe that's how 
>they figure it.


As "portfolio" is given as a unit of still image in an example in RDA 3.4.4.5, 
then the definition should include that.

Suggestion for revision...

Portfolio: A unit of extent of text or extent of still image that is a 
container 


"Extent of text" and "Extent of still image" have their own definitions in the 
glossary, referring to the number and type of units making up the resource.

A "portfolio" is a unit (also defined-- a physical or logical constituent of a 
resource). The extent elements consist of a unit, a number, and possible 
subunits and numbers of subunits.

Perhaps it would be clearer to say: a unit of the Extent of Text element or 
Extent of Still Image element.


Thomas Brenndorfer
Guelph Public Library

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Joan Wang]

I cannot help laughing. Sorry :)





On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Kathie Coblentz  wrote:

> May I take the occasion to point out another confusing definition in the
> RDA glossary?
>
> "Portfolio: A unit of extent of text that is a container for holding loose
> materials (e.g., paintings, drawings, papers, unbound sections of a book,
> and similar materials) usually consisting of two covers joined together at
> the back."
>
> There is something I'm not getting about how the RDA mind works. If
> something is "a unit of extent of text," how can it be a container for,
> e.g., paintings? I was driven back to the definition of "text" to see if
> maybe somehow it includes non-verbal images, but no, it's "Content
> expressed through a form of notation for language intended to be perceived
> visually." Though I suppose one picture IS worth a thousand words, so maybe
> that's how they figure it.
>
> I'm also not too pleased with that "usually consisting of two covers
> joined together at the back" (which was taken over from the AACR 2
> glossary). I've seen a lot of portfolios in my time, and relatively few
> look like that. Actually, come to think of it, I'm not even sure what it
> means. Two covers? The RDA definition of "cover" is "The outer protective
> material attached to a volume, consisting of both sides of the front and
> back panels and the spine to which they are joined."
>
> 
> Kathie Coblentz, Rare Materials Cataloger
> Collections Strategy/Special Formats Processing
> The New York Public Library, Stephen A. Schwarzman Building
> 5th Avenue and 42nd Street, Room 313
> New York, NY  10018
> kathiecoble...@nypl.org
>
> My opinions, not NYPL's
>



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Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
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Edwardsville, IL 62025
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618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Kathleen Lamantia]

Exactly :-)


Kathleen F. Lamantia, MLIS
Technical Services Librarian
330-458-2723
klaman...@starklibrary.org


-Original Message-
From: Gordon Dunsire [mailto:gor...@gordondunsire.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:09 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

Surely not in your portfolio! (Apologies, it's Friday)

Cheers

Gordon


-Original Message-
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kathleen Lamantia
Sent: 26 July 2013 17:04
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

Not in my book!


Kathleen F. Lamantia, MLIS
Technical Services Librarian
330-458-2723
klaman...@starklibrary.org

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell, Michael [mailto:michael.mitch...@brazosport.edu] 
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:03 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

"A unit of extent of text"- is that even English?


Michael Mitchell
Technical Services Librarian
Brazosport College
Lake Jackson, TX
Michael.mitchell at brazosport.edu

-Original Message-
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kathie Coblentz
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 10:58 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

May I take the occasion to point out another confusing definition in the RDA 
glossary?

"Portfolio: A unit of extent of text that is a container for holding loose 
materials (e.g., paintings, drawings, papers, unbound sections of a book, and 
similar materials) usually consisting of two covers joined together at the 
back."

There is something I'm not getting about how the RDA mind works. If something 
is "a unit of extent of text," how can it be a container for, e.g., paintings? 
I was driven back to the definition of "text" to see if maybe somehow it 
includes non-verbal images, but no, it's "Content expressed through a form of 
notation for language intended to be perceived visually." Though I suppose one 
picture IS worth a thousand words, so maybe that's how they figure it.

I'm also not too pleased with that "usually consisting of two covers joined 
together at the back" (which was taken over from the AACR 2 glossary). I've 
seen a lot of portfolios in my time, and relatively few look like that. 
Actually, come to think of it, I'm not even sure what it means. Two covers? The 
RDA definition of "cover" is "The outer protective material attached to a 
volume, consisting of both sides of the front and back panels and the spine to 
which they are joined."


Kathie Coblentz, Rare Materials Cataloger Collections Strategy/Special Formats 
Processing The New York Public Library, Stephen A. Schwarzman Building 5th 
Avenue and 42nd Street, Room 313 New York, NY  10018 kathiecoble...@nypl.org

My opinions, not NYPL's

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Gordon Dunsire]

Surely not in your portfolio! (Apologies, it's Friday)

Cheers

Gordon


-Original Message-
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kathleen Lamantia
Sent: 26 July 2013 17:04
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

Not in my book!


Kathleen F. Lamantia, MLIS
Technical Services Librarian
330-458-2723
klaman...@starklibrary.org

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell, Michael [mailto:michael.mitch...@brazosport.edu] 
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:03 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

"A unit of extent of text"- is that even English?


Michael Mitchell
Technical Services Librarian
Brazosport College
Lake Jackson, TX
Michael.mitchell at brazosport.edu

-Original Message-
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kathie Coblentz
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 10:58 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

May I take the occasion to point out another confusing definition in the RDA 
glossary?

"Portfolio: A unit of extent of text that is a container for holding loose 
materials (e.g., paintings, drawings, papers, unbound sections of a book, and 
similar materials) usually consisting of two covers joined together at the 
back."

There is something I'm not getting about how the RDA mind works. If something 
is "a unit of extent of text," how can it be a container for, e.g., paintings? 
I was driven back to the definition of "text" to see if maybe somehow it 
includes non-verbal images, but no, it's "Content expressed through a form of 
notation for language intended to be perceived visually." Though I suppose one 
picture IS worth a thousand words, so maybe that's how they figure it.

I'm also not too pleased with that "usually consisting of two covers joined 
together at the back" (which was taken over from the AACR 2 glossary). I've 
seen a lot of portfolios in my time, and relatively few look like that. 
Actually, come to think of it, I'm not even sure what it means. Two covers? The 
RDA definition of "cover" is "The outer protective material attached to a 
volume, consisting of both sides of the front and back panels and the spine to 
which they are joined."


Kathie Coblentz, Rare Materials Cataloger Collections Strategy/Special Formats 
Processing The New York Public Library, Stephen A. Schwarzman Building 5th 
Avenue and 42nd Street, Room 313 New York, NY  10018 kathiecoble...@nypl.org

My opinions, not NYPL's

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Kathleen Lamantia]

Not in my book!


Kathleen F. Lamantia, MLIS
Technical Services Librarian
330-458-2723
klaman...@starklibrary.org

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell, Michael [mailto:michael.mitch...@brazosport.edu] 
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:03 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

"A unit of extent of text"- is that even English?


Michael Mitchell
Technical Services Librarian
Brazosport College
Lake Jackson, TX
Michael.mitchell at brazosport.edu

-Original Message-
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kathie Coblentz
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 10:58 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

May I take the occasion to point out another confusing definition in the RDA 
glossary?

"Portfolio: A unit of extent of text that is a container for holding loose 
materials (e.g., paintings, drawings, papers, unbound sections of a book, and 
similar materials) usually consisting of two covers joined together at the 
back."

There is something I'm not getting about how the RDA mind works. If something 
is "a unit of extent of text," how can it be a container for, e.g., paintings? 
I was driven back to the definition of "text" to see if maybe somehow it 
includes non-verbal images, but no, it's "Content expressed through a form of 
notation for language intended to be perceived visually." Though I suppose one 
picture IS worth a thousand words, so maybe that's how they figure it.

I'm also not too pleased with that "usually consisting of two covers joined 
together at the back" (which was taken over from the AACR 2 glossary). I've 
seen a lot of portfolios in my time, and relatively few look like that. 
Actually, come to think of it, I'm not even sure what it means. Two covers? The 
RDA definition of "cover" is "The outer protective material attached to a 
volume, consisting of both sides of the front and back panels and the spine to 
which they are joined."


Kathie Coblentz, Rare Materials Cataloger Collections Strategy/Special Formats 
Processing The New York Public Library, Stephen A. Schwarzman Building 5th 
Avenue and 42nd Street, Room 313 New York, NY  10018 kathiecoble...@nypl.org

My opinions, not NYPL's

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Mitchell, Michael]

"A unit of extent of text"- is that even English?


Michael Mitchell
Technical Services Librarian
Brazosport College
Lake Jackson, TX
Michael.mitchell at brazosport.edu

-Original Message-
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kathie Coblentz
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 10:58 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

May I take the occasion to point out another confusing definition in the RDA 
glossary?

"Portfolio: A unit of extent of text that is a container for holding loose 
materials (e.g., paintings, drawings, papers, unbound sections of a book, and 
similar materials) usually consisting of two covers joined together at the 
back."

There is something I'm not getting about how the RDA mind works. If something 
is "a unit of extent of text," how can it be a container for, e.g., paintings? 
I was driven back to the definition of "text" to see if maybe somehow it 
includes non-verbal images, but no, it's "Content expressed through a form of 
notation for language intended to be perceived visually." Though I suppose one 
picture IS worth a thousand words, so maybe that's how they figure it.

I'm also not too pleased with that "usually consisting of two covers joined 
together at the back" (which was taken over from the AACR 2 glossary). I've 
seen a lot of portfolios in my time, and relatively few look like that. 
Actually, come to think of it, I'm not even sure what it means. Two covers? The 
RDA definition of "cover" is "The outer protective material attached to a 
volume, consisting of both sides of the front and back panels and the spine to 
which they are joined."


Kathie Coblentz, Rare Materials Cataloger Collections Strategy/Special Formats 
Processing The New York Public Library, Stephen A. Schwarzman Building 5th 
Avenue and 42nd Street, Room 313 New York, NY  10018 kathiecoble...@nypl.org

My opinions, not NYPL's

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Kathie Coblentz]

May I take the occasion to point out another confusing definition in the RDA 
glossary?

"Portfolio: A unit of extent of text that is a container for holding loose 
materials (e.g., paintings, drawings, papers, unbound sections of a book, and 
similar materials) usually consisting of two covers joined together at the 
back."

There is something I'm not getting about how the RDA mind works. If something 
is "a unit of extent of text," how can it be a container for, e.g., paintings? 
I was driven back to the definition of "text" to see if maybe somehow it 
includes non-verbal images, but no, it's "Content expressed through a form of 
notation for language intended to be perceived visually." Though I suppose one 
picture IS worth a thousand words, so maybe that's how they figure it.

I'm also not too pleased with that "usually consisting of two covers joined 
together at the back" (which was taken over from the AACR 2 glossary). I've 
seen a lot of portfolios in my time, and relatively few look like that. 
Actually, come to think of it, I'm not even sure what it means. Two covers? The 
RDA definition of "cover" is "The outer protective material attached to a 
volume, consisting of both sides of the front and back panels and the spine to 
which they are joined."


Kathie Coblentz, Rare Materials Cataloger
Collections Strategy/Special Formats Processing
The New York Public Library, Stephen A. Schwarzman Building
5th Avenue and 42nd Street, Room 313
New York, NY  10018
kathiecoble...@nypl.org

My opinions, not NYPL's

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[J. McRee Elrod]

Leslie posted:

>I am cataloging a collection of art prints which are packaged in a sort of =
>portfolio

300 $a1 portfolio (50 sheets) :$bcolour ;$c23 x 28 cm

The advantage of using "portfolio" as unit name, is that you don't have to
say "in portfolio" in $c.

336  $astill image$2rdacontent
337  $aunmediated$2rdamedia
338  $asheet$2rdacarrier


A sheet is a sheet, whether printed on one side or two.

The singular vs. plural is a problem we had with GMDs, so it is not 
new, e.g., [slide] as GMD, whether one slide to a set.


   __   __   J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca)
  {__  |   / Special Libraries Cataloguing   HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/
  ___} |__ \__

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Harden, Jean]

Sheet? That's what we use for music of this sort.


Jean Harden
Coordinator of Music Technical Services
University of North Texas
Denton, TX  76203
jean.har...@unt.edu



From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Rieger, Leslie
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 4:30 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

Hello all!

I am cataloging a collection of art prints which are packaged in a sort of 
portfolio (basically it's a book cover, but the prints are not bound or 
attached to the spine in any way).   I am struggling with whether to use 
"volume" or "other" in the 338.  According the RDA glossary, a volume is "one 
or more sheets bound or fastened together to form a single unit."  Since my 
item is not bound, this would seem to indicate I should choose "other."

Thoughts?  Is there another term I should be considering instead?  Thanks for 
any assistance!

Leslie Y. Rieger
Music Cataloging Technician
The University of Montana
Mansfield Library
(406) 243-6733
leslie.rie...@umontana.edu<mailto:leslie.rie...@umontana.edu>

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Gary L Strawn]

Doesn't it depend at least in part on whether "bind" narrowly means something 
like "signatures sewn together and the result firmly affixed to covers" or 
merely "fastened in some manner into a unit"?  The closest that RDA seems to 
come (in a hasty search) is "bound with" which might be illuminating but is a 
special case.  If the securing within portfolio covers is "binding" then you 
have a volume.

Gary L. Strawn, Authorities Librarian, etc.   Twitter: GaryLStrawn
Northwestern University Library, 1970 Campus Drive, Evanston IL 60208-2300
e-mail: mrsm...@northwestern.edu   voice: 847/491-2788   fax: 847/491-8306
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.   BatchCat version: 2007.25.428

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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Rieger, Leslie
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 4:30 PM
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Subject: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

Hello all!

I am cataloging a collection of art prints which are packaged in a sort of 
portfolio (basically it's a book cover, but the prints are not bound or 
attached to the spine in any way).   I am struggling with whether to use 
"volume" or "other" in the 338.  According the RDA glossary, a volume is "one 
or more sheets bound or fastened together to form a single unit."  Since my 
item is not bound, this would seem to indicate I should choose "other."

Thoughts?  Is there another term I should be considering instead?  Thanks for 
any assistance!

Leslie Y. Rieger
Music Cataloging Technician
The University of Montana
Mansfield Library
(406) 243-6733
leslie.rie...@umontana.edu<mailto:leslie.rie...@umontana.edu>

Re: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Peter Schouten]

This is a resource consisting of one or more sheets, etc., housed in a single 
portfolio or case, so the carrier type is sheet.

Peter



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Onderwerp: [RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints










Hello all!
 
I am cataloging a collection of art prints which are packaged in a sort of 
portfolio (basically it’s a book cover, but the prints are not bound or 
attached to the spine in any way).   I am struggling with whether to use 
“volume” or “other”
 in the 338.  According the RDA glossary, a volume is “one or more sheets bound 
or fastened together to form a single unit.”  Since my item is not bound, this 
would seem to indicate I should choose “other.”
 
Thoughts?  Is there another term I should be considering instead?  Thanks for 
any assistance!

 
Leslie Y. Rieger
Music Cataloging Technician
The University of Montana 
Mansfield Library
(406) 243-6733
leslie.rie...@umontana.edu
 

[RDA-L] 338 field for a "volume" of art prints

[Rieger, Leslie]

Hello all!

I am cataloging a collection of art prints which are packaged in a sort of 
portfolio (basically it's a book cover, but the prints are not bound or 
attached to the spine in any way).   I am struggling with whether to use 
"volume" or "other" in the 338.  According the RDA glossary, a volume is "one 
or more sheets bound or fastened together to form a single unit."  Since my 
item is not bound, this would seem to indicate I should choose "other."

Thoughts?  Is there another term I should be considering instead?  Thanks for 
any assistance!

Leslie Y. Rieger
Music Cataloging Technician
The University of Montana
Mansfield Library
(406) 243-6733
leslie.rie...@umontana.edu