Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

2013-02-04 Thread Paradis Daniel
Heidrun,
You are right that 3.4.1.5 is actually an alternative to the basic rule of 
recording extent (3.4.1.3). LC put forward a proposal to correct this situation 
(http://www.rda-jsc.org/docs/6JSC-LC-17.pdf), which was accepted with revision 
at the last JSC meeting (November 2012). This kind of revisions is scheduled to 
be incorporated in RDA in the following April update of the Toolkit.

Daniel Paradis
 
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Benjamin,

I absolutely agree.

More's the pity that RDA's standard rule for the "extent" element 
(3.4.1.3) requires us to give "the number of units and an appropriate 
term for the type of carrier as listed under 3.3.1.3". Fortunately, 
there is also rule 3.4.1.5 c) which allows us to use "a term in common 
usage (...) as an alternative to a term listed under 3.3.1.3, if 
preferred by the agency preparing the description". (By the way: I 
wonder why this rule isn't presented as an option under 3.4.1.3?)

Surprisingly, the LC-PCC PS for 3.4.1.5 only refers to a) ("if the 
carrier is in a newly developed format that is not yet covered in the 
list under 3.3.1.3") and doesn't give any guidance as to c).

So I wonder: What will the general practice be in MARC 300 $a? Am I 
right in assuming that almost nobody will use things like "videodisc" 
here and instead use more specific terms like DVD and Blue-ray disc?

Heidrun


Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

2013-02-02 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller

Benjamin,

I absolutely agree.

More's the pity that RDA's standard rule for the "extent" element 
(3.4.1.3) requires us to give "the number of units and an appropriate 
term for the type of carrier as listed under 3.3.1.3". Fortunately, 
there is also rule 3.4.1.5 c) which allows us to use "a term in common 
usage (...) as an alternative to a term listed under 3.3.1.3, if 
preferred by the agency preparing the description". (By the way: I 
wonder why this rule isn't presented as an option under 3.4.1.3?)


Surprisingly, the LC-PCC PS for 3.4.1.5 only refers to a) ("if the 
carrier is in a newly developed format that is not yet covered in the 
list under 3.3.1.3") and doesn't give any guidance as to c).


So I wonder: What will the general practice be in MARC 300 $a? Am I 
right in assuming that almost nobody will use things like "videodisc" 
here and instead use more specific terms like DVD and Blue-ray disc?


Heidrun






On 01.02.2013 18:45, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:

Heidrun,

It seems to me that the "carrier type" vocabulary is the least useful of the 
three controlled vocabularies that RDA introduces for describing the relationship between 
content and format.

On the one hand, it's too general to provide information users need to know in order to use a 
"mediated" resource.  For example, DVD and Blu-Ray are both "videodiscs" but if 
you don't have a Blu-Ray player available to you, it's not much help to know it's a videodisc.

On the other hand, as you point out, some of the distinctions seem a bit arbitrary (I 
tend to agree that a "flipchart" is essentially a volume, just spiral bound at 
the top rather than stitched on the side).

I suppose it provides a general categorization of "carriers", and maybe that 
will prove useful in some systems. But it clearly doesn't take the place of specific 
descriptions that we put in the 300 $a and in the notes.

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137





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Stuttgart Media University
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Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, Germany
www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi


Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

2013-02-01 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
Heidrun,

It seems to me that the "carrier type" vocabulary is the least useful of the 
three controlled vocabularies that RDA introduces for describing the 
relationship between content and format. 

On the one hand, it's too general to provide information users need to know in 
order to use a "mediated" resource.  For example, DVD and Blu-Ray are both 
"videodiscs" but if you don't have a Blu-Ray player available to you, it's not 
much help to know it's a videodisc.  

On the other hand, as you point out, some of the distinctions seem a bit 
arbitrary (I tend to agree that a "flipchart" is essentially a volume, just 
spiral bound at the top rather than stitched on the side).

I suppose it provides a general categorization of "carriers", and maybe that 
will prove useful in some systems. But it clearly doesn't take the place of 
specific descriptions that we put in the 300 $a and in the notes.

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137


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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

Deborah,

I don't have problems with the media type "unmediated" as such.

But what I find amazingly difficult is assigning the (in the RDA sense) correct 
carrier type for things which are "unmediated". As I pointed out, wall 
calendars look very similar to these educational flip charts, which got me so 
confused, yet - if I read RDA correctly here - they wouldn't get "flipchart", 
but "volume". A couple of days ago, there also was an interesting discussion 
about the difficult distinction between "sheet" and "volume" on the AUTOCAT 
list.

It feels weird to me that choosing between carrier types for "unmediated" 
things should be so difficult. After all, the "unmediated" 
area is where we all should have the best expertise, as these are the resources 
people are most familiar with. You may have to be an expert to understand the 
technical differences between certain carrier types in the "audio" or 
"computer" section, but I believe everybody should be able to pick the right 
carrier type in the "unmediated" area without having to give it too much 
thought. But this doesn't seem to be the case, and it makes me wonder whether 
RDA's system of carrier types is really well thought-out.

Also, it somehow doesn't feel right that something as specialized as these 
educational flipcharts is honoured with a carrier type of its own. 
I'd say "volume" would have worked just as well for them, because basically 
they consist of "one or more sheets bound or fastened together to form a single 
unit" (RDA glossary for "volume"). On the other hand, something like a globe, 
which really might have been worth a carrier type of its own, is subsumed under 
"object".

Of course I'm aware of the fact that one can be more specific in the "extent" 
element and (at least optionally) use more helpful terms there. 
Still, I'm not really happy with these carrier types.

Heidrun



On 01.02.2013 16:23, Deborah Fritz wrote:
> Does it help if you ask the question of Media Type this way: "Do I 
> need some sort of media device/apparatus/equipment/contraption/gadget 
> in order to access the content of this thing?"
>
> If the answer is "No, no media device is needed", then the Media Type 
> is 'unmediated'.
>
> If some of the content of a resource needs no media device for access 
> and other content needs a device, then record multiple media types.
>
> If the content can be accessed using different media devices (e.g., a 
> computer or a video device) then record the different devices that can 
> be used for access.
>
> I, also, struggled with this, until I thought of it this way, so I 
> hope this approach might help.
>
> Deborah
>
> -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
> Deborah Fritz
> TMQ, Inc.
> debo...@marcofquality.com
> www.marcofquality.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and 
> Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Heidrun 
> Wiesenmüller
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:05 PM
> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"
>
> Many thanks to Benjamin, John and Daniel for the explanation. I've 
> never come across something like this in Germany, and will have to 
> find out whether there is a s

Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

2013-02-01 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller

Deborah,

I don't have problems with the media type "unmediated" as such.

But what I find amazingly difficult is assigning the (in the RDA sense) 
correct carrier type for things which are "unmediated". As I pointed 
out, wall calendars look very similar to these educational flip charts, 
which got me so confused, yet - if I read RDA correctly here - they 
wouldn't get "flipchart", but "volume". A couple of days ago, there also 
was an interesting discussion about the difficult distinction between 
"sheet" and "volume" on the AUTOCAT list.


It feels weird to me that choosing between carrier types for 
"unmediated" things should be so difficult. After all, the "unmediated" 
area is where we all should have the best expertise, as these are the 
resources people are most familiar with. You may have to be an expert to 
understand the technical differences between certain carrier types in 
the "audio" or "computer" section, but I believe everybody should be 
able to pick the right carrier type in the "unmediated" area without 
having to give it too much thought. But this doesn't seem to be the 
case, and it makes me wonder whether RDA's system of carrier types is 
really well thought-out.


Also, it somehow doesn't feel right that something as specialized as 
these educational flipcharts is honoured with a carrier type of its own. 
I'd say "volume" would have worked just as well for them, because 
basically they consist of "one or more sheets bound or fastened together 
to form a single unit" (RDA glossary for "volume"). On the other hand, 
something like a globe, which really might have been worth a carrier 
type of its own, is subsumed under "object".


Of course I'm aware of the fact that one can be more specific in the 
"extent" element and (at least optionally) use more helpful terms there. 
Still, I'm not really happy with these carrier types.


Heidrun



On 01.02.2013 16:23, Deborah Fritz wrote:

Does it help if you ask the question of Media Type this way: "Do I need some
sort of media device/apparatus/equipment/contraption/gadget in order to
access the content of this thing?"

If the answer is "No, no media device is needed", then the Media Type is
'unmediated'.

If some of the content of a resource needs no media device for access and
other content needs a device, then record multiple media types.

If the content can be accessed using different media devices (e.g., a
computer or a video device) then record the different devices that can be
used for access.

I, also, struggled with this, until I thought of it this way, so I hope this
approach might help.

Deborah

-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
Deborah Fritz
TMQ, Inc.
debo...@marcofquality.com
www.marcofquality.com

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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:05 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

Many thanks to Benjamin, John and Daniel for the explanation. I've never
come across something like this in Germany, and will have to find out
whether there is a special German term for it (as the word "Flipchart"
in German is really only used for the easel and whiteboard).

It still bothers me a bit to have an unmediated carrier type for something
as specialized as this (especially if you compare it with the huge range of
"object").

By the way, this got me wondering about wall calendars (the typical ones
with one image per month). They often have a spiral binding, which makes
them very similar in form to those classroom flipcharts. Only they are not
"designed for use on an easel", as the RDA glossary says, but for hanging on
a wall. So I assume "flipchart" wouldn't be suitable, and you'd have to use
"volume" instead (RDA glossary: "One or more sheets bound or fastened
together to form a single unit").

It's really amazing how complicated assigning carrier types can get...
One should think that at least the unmediated carrier types would be
straightforward.

Heidrun



On 30.01.2013 22:06, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote

I think it refers to a type of childrens' (or educational) resource that

is published and intended to be used in the classroom.

E.g.:
http://www.staples.com/Calendar-Time-Sing-Along-Flip-Chart-and-CD/prod
uct_753900?cid=PS:GooglePLAs:753900&KPID=753900



Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT Libraries
617-253-7137


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[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of H

Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

2013-02-01 Thread Deborah Fritz
Does it help if you ask the question of Media Type this way: "Do I need some
sort of media device/apparatus/equipment/contraption/gadget in order to
access the content of this thing?"

If the answer is "No, no media device is needed", then the Media Type is
'unmediated'.

If some of the content of a resource needs no media device for access and
other content needs a device, then record multiple media types. 

If the content can be accessed using different media devices (e.g., a
computer or a video device) then record the different devices that can be
used for access.

I, also, struggled with this, until I thought of it this way, so I hope this
approach might help.

Deborah

-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  
Deborah Fritz
TMQ, Inc.
debo...@marcofquality.com
www.marcofquality.com

-Original Message-
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 3:05 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

Many thanks to Benjamin, John and Daniel for the explanation. I've never
come across something like this in Germany, and will have to find out
whether there is a special German term for it (as the word "Flipchart" 
in German is really only used for the easel and whiteboard).

It still bothers me a bit to have an unmediated carrier type for something
as specialized as this (especially if you compare it with the huge range of
"object").

By the way, this got me wondering about wall calendars (the typical ones
with one image per month). They often have a spiral binding, which makes
them very similar in form to those classroom flipcharts. Only they are not
"designed for use on an easel", as the RDA glossary says, but for hanging on
a wall. So I assume "flipchart" wouldn't be suitable, and you'd have to use
"volume" instead (RDA glossary: "One or more sheets bound or fastened
together to form a single unit").

It's really amazing how complicated assigning carrier types can get... 
One should think that at least the unmediated carrier types would be
straightforward.

Heidrun



On 30.01.2013 22:06, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote
> I think it refers to a type of childrens' (or educational) resource that
is published and intended to be used in the classroom.
>
> E.g.: 
> http://www.staples.com/Calendar-Time-Sing-Along-Flip-Chart-and-CD/prod
> uct_753900?cid=PS:GooglePLAs:753900&KPID=753900
>
>
>
> Benjamin Abrahamse
> Cataloging Coordinator
> Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT Libraries
> 617-253-7137
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Heidrun Wiesenmüller
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:45 PM
> To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
> Subject: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"
>
> In our regional cataloging experts group, we were dicussing RDA carrier
types yesterday.
>
> We were completely mystified why flip charts warrant a carrier type of
their own ("flipchart"). We found it very hard to imagine any library or
other institution collecting flip charts, in the first place. Stretching our
imagination, we could picture a collection of paper sheets which had before
been used on a flip chart - but these should then simply get the data
carrier "sheet", shouldn't they? And if a library really wanted to collect
the flip charts themselves (for us, that would mean whiteboards on an easel)
- wouldn't that fall under "object"?
>
> I assume that there is a simple solution to this puzzle. Probably it's
just some sort of misunderstanding, either due to language or cultural
differences. So I wonder: What exactly is meant by "flipchart" in this
respect, and how are flip charts used in Angloamerican countries?
>
> The flip charts we were thinking of look like this:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_chart
> We use the term for the whole device, i.e. the easel and the whiteboard
with its mechanism for holding paper sheets. The RDA glossary defines
flipchart as "hinging device holding two or more sheets designed for use on
an easel", which is perhaps not exactly the same.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Heidrun
>
> --
> -
> Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A.
> Stuttgart Media University
> Faculty of Information and Communication Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart,
Germany www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi


-- 
-
Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A.
Stuttgart Media University
Faculty of Information and Communication
Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, Germany
www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi


Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

2013-01-31 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Many thanks to Benjamin, John and Daniel for the explanation. I've never 
come across something like this in Germany, and will have to find out 
whether there is a special German term for it (as the word "Flipchart" 
in German is really only used for the easel and whiteboard).


It still bothers me a bit to have an unmediated carrier type for 
something as specialized as this (especially if you compare it with the 
huge range of "object").


By the way, this got me wondering about wall calendars (the typical ones 
with one image per month). They often have a spiral binding, which makes 
them very similar in form to those classroom flipcharts. Only they are 
not "designed for use on an easel", as the RDA glossary says, but for 
hanging on a wall. So I assume "flipchart" wouldn't be suitable, and 
you'd have to use "volume" instead (RDA glossary: "One or more sheets 
bound or fastened together to form a single unit").


It's really amazing how complicated assigning carrier types can get... 
One should think that at least the unmediated carrier types would be 
straightforward.


Heidrun



On 30.01.2013 22:06, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote

I think it refers to a type of childrens' (or educational) resource that is 
published and intended to be used in the classroom.

E.g.: 
http://www.staples.com/Calendar-Time-Sing-Along-Flip-Chart-and-CD/product_753900?cid=PS:GooglePLAs:753900&KPID=753900



Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137


-Original Message-
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:45 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

In our regional cataloging experts group, we were dicussing RDA carrier types 
yesterday.

We were completely mystified why flip charts warrant a carrier type of their own ("flipchart"). We 
found it very hard to imagine any library or other institution collecting flip charts, in the first place. 
Stretching our imagination, we could picture a collection of paper sheets which had before been used on a 
flip chart - but these should then simply get the data carrier "sheet", shouldn't they? And if a 
library really wanted to collect the flip charts themselves (for us, that would mean whiteboards on an easel) 
- wouldn't that fall under "object"?

I assume that there is a simple solution to this puzzle. Probably it's just some sort of 
misunderstanding, either due to language or cultural differences. So I wonder: What 
exactly is meant by "flipchart" in this respect, and how are flip charts used 
in Angloamerican countries?

The flip charts we were thinking of look like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_chart
We use the term for the whole device, i.e. the easel and the whiteboard with its 
mechanism for holding paper sheets. The RDA glossary defines flipchart as "hinging 
device holding two or more sheets designed for use on an easel", which is perhaps 
not exactly the same.

Thanks for your help.

Heidrun

--
-
Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A.
Stuttgart Media University
Faculty of Information and Communication Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, 
Germany www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi



--
-
Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A.
Stuttgart Media University
Faculty of Information and Communication
Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, Germany
www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi


Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

2013-01-30 Thread Daniel CannCasciato
> There are some published flipcharts.  Here is a bibliographic record for one:
> http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/225434076 

and a number of cataloged kits include flipcharts.

Daniel




-- 
Daniel CannCasciato
Head of Cataloging
Central Washington University Brooks Library
Ellensburg, WA 98926
 
"Wearing the sensible shoes proudly since 1977!"


Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

2013-01-30 Thread Daniel CannCasciato
-- 
Daniel CannCasciato
Head of Cataloging
Central Washington University Brooks Library
Ellensburg, WA 98926
 
"Wearing the sensible shoes proudly since 1977!"

>>> On 1/30/13 at 2:55 PM, John Hostage  wrote:
> There are some published flipcharts.  Here is a bibliographic record for one:
> http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/225434076 


Change to :  Old-school PowerPoint?

Daniel


Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

2013-01-30 Thread John Hostage
There are some published flipcharts.  Here is a bibliographic record for one:
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/225434076


--
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Harvard Library--Information and Technical Services
Langdell Hall 194
Cambridge, MA 02138
host...@law.harvard.edu
+(1)(617) 495-3974 (voice)
+(1)(617) 496-4409 (fax)

> -Original Message-
> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Heidrun Wiesenmüller
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 15:45
> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> Subject: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"
> 
> In our regional cataloging experts group, we were dicussing RDA carrier
> types yesterday.
> 
> We were completely mystified why flip charts warrant a carrier type of
> their own ("flipchart"). We found it very hard to imagine any library
> or other institution collecting flip charts, in the first place.
> Stretching our imagination, we could picture a collection of paper
> sheets which had before been used on a flip chart - but these should
> then simply get the data carrier "sheet", shouldn't they? And if a
> library really wanted to collect the flip charts themselves (for us,
> that would mean whiteboards on an easel) - wouldn't that fall under
> "object"?
> 
> I assume that there is a simple solution to this puzzle. Probably it's
> just some sort of misunderstanding, either due to language or cultural
> differences. So I wonder: What exactly is meant by "flipchart" in this
> respect, and how are flip charts used in Angloamerican countries?
> 
> The flip charts we were thinking of look like this:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_chart
> We use the term for the whole device, i.e. the easel and the whiteboard
> with its mechanism for holding paper sheets. The RDA glossary defines
> flipchart as "hinging device holding two or more sheets designed for
> use on an easel", which is perhaps not exactly the same.
> 


Re: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

2013-01-30 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
I think it refers to a type of childrens' (or educational) resource that is 
published and intended to be used in the classroom.

E.g.: 
http://www.staples.com/Calendar-Time-Sing-Along-Flip-Chart-and-CD/product_753900?cid=PS:GooglePLAs:753900&KPID=753900



Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137


-Original Message-
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:45 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: [RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

In our regional cataloging experts group, we were dicussing RDA carrier types 
yesterday.

We were completely mystified why flip charts warrant a carrier type of their 
own ("flipchart"). We found it very hard to imagine any library or other 
institution collecting flip charts, in the first place. Stretching our 
imagination, we could picture a collection of paper sheets which had before 
been used on a flip chart - but these should then simply get the data carrier 
"sheet", shouldn't they? And if a library really wanted to collect the flip 
charts themselves (for us, that would mean whiteboards on an easel) - wouldn't 
that fall under "object"?

I assume that there is a simple solution to this puzzle. Probably it's just 
some sort of misunderstanding, either due to language or cultural differences. 
So I wonder: What exactly is meant by "flipchart" in this respect, and how are 
flip charts used in Angloamerican countries?

The flip charts we were thinking of look like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_chart
We use the term for the whole device, i.e. the easel and the whiteboard with 
its mechanism for holding paper sheets. The RDA glossary defines flipchart as 
"hinging device holding two or more sheets designed for use on an easel", which 
is perhaps not exactly the same.

Thanks for your help.

Heidrun

--
-
Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A.
Stuttgart Media University
Faculty of Information and Communication Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, 
Germany www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi


[RDA-L] Carrier type "Flipchart"

2013-01-30 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
In our regional cataloging experts group, we were dicussing RDA carrier 
types yesterday.


We were completely mystified why flip charts warrant a carrier type of 
their own ("flipchart"). We found it very hard to imagine any library or 
other institution collecting flip charts, in the first place. Stretching 
our imagination, we could picture a collection of paper sheets which had 
before been used on a flip chart - but these should then simply get the 
data carrier "sheet", shouldn't they? And if a library really wanted to 
collect the flip charts themselves (for us, that would mean whiteboards 
on an easel) - wouldn't that fall under "object"?


I assume that there is a simple solution to this puzzle. Probably it's 
just some sort of misunderstanding, either due to language or cultural 
differences. So I wonder: What exactly is meant by "flipchart" in this 
respect, and how are flip charts used in Angloamerican countries?


The flip charts we were thinking of look like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_chart
We use the term for the whole device, i.e. the easel and the whiteboard 
with its mechanism for holding paper sheets. The RDA glossary defines 
flipchart as "hinging device holding two or more sheets designed for use 
on an easel", which is perhaps not exactly the same.


Thanks for your help.

Heidrun

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Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A.
Stuttgart Media University
Faculty of Information and Communication
Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, Germany
www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi