Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
The Yolo County Library (Woodland, CA) is adding GMD back in. Librarians (and patrons, I'm told) like knowing what's non-book straightaway, and no one thinks adding 336-338 to display to the public is a good idea. Looks like the vast majority of us are adding 245 $h after adding records to Connexion. More work. :-\ On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Danskin, Alan wrote: > This is also the British Library’s position. > > ** ** > > Alan > > ** ** > > Alan Danskin > > Metadata Standards Manager > > British Library > > Boston Spa > > Wetherby > > West Yorkshire > > LS23 7BY > > ** ** > > Tel: +44(0)1937 546669 > > mobile: +44 (0)7833401117 > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Gary L Strawn > *Sent:* 30 September 2013 14:34 > > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? > > ** ** > > We are also retaining existing 245 $h for now, but not adding any more. > The information in these subfields can play an important part in the > automated generation of 33X fields, which we plan to do some time before > our migration to Alma. After we use 245 $h to help generate the 33X > fields, we'll delete them. > > ** ** > > Gary L. Strawn, Authorities Librarian, etc. Twitter: GaryLStrawn > > > Northwestern University Library, 1970 Campus Drive, Evanston IL 60208-2300 > > > e-mail: mrsm...@northwestern.edu voice: 847/491-2788 fax: 847/491-8306 > > > Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit. BatchCat version: 2007.25.428 > > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA ] *On > Behalf Of *Miranda Nero > *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 8:22 AM > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? > > ** ** > > We have not removed GMD from AACR-2 records that were in our system > already or that we are bringing in from OCLC, and we are also not adding > them to RDA records. Adding a GMD to and RDA record creates extra work that > we don’t have the time for. We are switching to Sierra in November and > because of the Material Type icons in the client display, we are planning > to remove all GMDs and add 33x fields to the records once we have settled > in with Sierra. The GMDs are very helpful in scanning in Millennium > (although we recommend our staff use the limit button to distinguish > between DVD and Blu-ray or Book on CD and Book on Cassette), but in the > minimal exposure the staff has had to Sierra so far, they have looked > straight to the Material Type icon. During this transition/hybrid period, > we haven’t noticed much of an issue with the lack of a GMD in some records. > > > ** ** > > Miranda Nero > > Ocean State Libraries**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA ] *On > Behalf Of *Dave Van Kleeck > *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2013 3:29 PM > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? > > ** ** > > As our ILS does not display icons, my director has asked us to add the GMD > to RDA records. We do this with our local records only, not in records we > contribute to OCLC. For us, the GMD is valuable to both users and staff. > Sometime soon we hope to have the 33X fields enabled for display and at > that point we will reassess the value of the GMD in combination with the > 33X fields. > > ** ** > > Dave > > ** ** > > David Van Kleeck > Cataloging & Technical Services > Holly Library > > A-B Tech Community College > 340 Victoria Rd.**** > > Asheville, NC 28801 > > 828-398-7574 > davidavankle...@abtech.edu > > * > *Dedicated to Student Success > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA ] *On > Behalf Of *Karen Nelson > *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2013 11:39 AM > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Subject:* [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? > > ** ** > > Hi, everyone; > > ** ** > > Could we get some postings on what others are doing *now* with the GMD? > There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. > > ** ** > > Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? > > Disp
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
This is also the British Library's position. Alan Alan Danskin Metadata Standards Manager British Library Boston Spa Wetherby West Yorkshire LS23 7BY Tel: +44(0)1937 546669 mobile: +44 (0)7833401117 From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Gary L Strawn Sent: 30 September 2013 14:34 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? We are also retaining existing 245 $h for now, but not adding any more. The information in these subfields can play an important part in the automated generation of 33X fields, which we plan to do some time before our migration to Alma. After we use 245 $h to help generate the 33X fields, we'll delete them. Gary L. Strawn, Authorities Librarian, etc. Twitter: GaryLStrawn Northwestern University Library, 1970 Campus Drive, Evanston IL 60208-2300 e-mail: mrsm...@northwestern.edu voice: 847/491-2788 fax: 847/491-8306 Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit. BatchCat version: 2007.25.428 From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Miranda Nero Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 8:22 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? We have not removed GMD from AACR-2 records that were in our system already or that we are bringing in from OCLC, and we are also not adding them to RDA records. Adding a GMD to and RDA record creates extra work that we don't have the time for. We are switching to Sierra in November and because of the Material Type icons in the client display, we are planning to remove all GMDs and add 33x fields to the records once we have settled in with Sierra. The GMDs are very helpful in scanning in Millennium (although we recommend our staff use the limit button to distinguish between DVD and Blu-ray or Book on CD and Book on Cassette), but in the minimal exposure the staff has had to Sierra so far, they have looked straight to the Material Type icon. During this transition/hybrid period, we haven't noticed much of an issue with the lack of a GMD in some records. Miranda Nero Ocean State Libraries From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Dave Van Kleeck Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 3:29 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? As our ILS does not display icons, my director has asked us to add the GMD to RDA records. We do this with our local records only, not in records we contribute to OCLC. For us, the GMD is valuable to both users and staff. Sometime soon we hope to have the 33X fields enabled for display and at that point we will reassess the value of the GMD in combination with the 33X fields. Dave David Van Kleeck Cataloging & Technical Services Holly Library A-B Tech Community College 340 Victoria Rd. Asheville, NC 28801 828-398-7574 davidavankle...@abtech.edu Dedicated to Student Success From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you! ** Experience the British Library online at http://www.bl.uk/ The British Library’s latest Annual Report and Accounts : http://www.bl.uk/aboutus/annrep/index.html Help the British Library conserve the world's knowledge. Adopt a Book. http://www.bl.uk/adoptabook The Library's St Pancras site is WiFi - enabled * The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this e-mail and notify the mailto:postmas...@bl.uk : The contents of this e-mail must not be disclosed or copied without the sender's consent. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the British Library. The British Library does not take any responsibility for the views of the author. * Think before you print
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
We are also retaining existing 245 $h for now, but not adding any more. The information in these subfields can play an important part in the automated generation of 33X fields, which we plan to do some time before our migration to Alma. After we use 245 $h to help generate the 33X fields, we'll delete them. Gary L. Strawn, Authorities Librarian, etc. Twitter: GaryLStrawn Northwestern University Library, 1970 Campus Drive, Evanston IL 60208-2300 e-mail: mrsm...@northwestern.edu voice: 847/491-2788 fax: 847/491-8306 Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit. BatchCat version: 2007.25.428 From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Miranda Nero Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 8:22 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? We have not removed GMD from AACR-2 records that were in our system already or that we are bringing in from OCLC, and we are also not adding them to RDA records. Adding a GMD to and RDA record creates extra work that we don't have the time for. We are switching to Sierra in November and because of the Material Type icons in the client display, we are planning to remove all GMDs and add 33x fields to the records once we have settled in with Sierra. The GMDs are very helpful in scanning in Millennium (although we recommend our staff use the limit button to distinguish between DVD and Blu-ray or Book on CD and Book on Cassette), but in the minimal exposure the staff has had to Sierra so far, they have looked straight to the Material Type icon. During this transition/hybrid period, we haven't noticed much of an issue with the lack of a GMD in some records. Miranda Nero Ocean State Libraries From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Dave Van Kleeck Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 3:29 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? As our ILS does not display icons, my director has asked us to add the GMD to RDA records. We do this with our local records only, not in records we contribute to OCLC. For us, the GMD is valuable to both users and staff. Sometime soon we hope to have the 33X fields enabled for display and at that point we will reassess the value of the GMD in combination with the 33X fields. Dave David Van Kleeck Cataloging & Technical Services Holly Library A-B Tech Community College 340 Victoria Rd. Asheville, NC 28801 828-398-7574 davidavankle...@abtech.edu<mailto:davidavankle...@abtech.edu> Dedicated to Student Success From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you!
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
We have not removed GMD from AACR-2 records that were in our system already or that we are bringing in from OCLC, and we are also not adding them to RDA records. Adding a GMD to and RDA record creates extra work that we don't have the time for. We are switching to Sierra in November and because of the Material Type icons in the client display, we are planning to remove all GMDs and add 33x fields to the records once we have settled in with Sierra. The GMDs are very helpful in scanning in Millennium (although we recommend our staff use the limit button to distinguish between DVD and Blu-ray or Book on CD and Book on Cassette), but in the minimal exposure the staff has had to Sierra so far, they have looked straight to the Material Type icon. During this transition/hybrid period, we haven't noticed much of an issue with the lack of a GMD in some records. Miranda Nero Ocean State Libraries From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Dave Van Kleeck Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 3:29 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? As our ILS does not display icons, my director has asked us to add the GMD to RDA records. We do this with our local records only, not in records we contribute to OCLC. For us, the GMD is valuable to both users and staff. Sometime soon we hope to have the 33X fields enabled for display and at that point we will reassess the value of the GMD in combination with the 33X fields. Dave David Van Kleeck Cataloging & Technical Services Holly Library A-B Tech Community College 340 Victoria Rd. Asheville, NC 28801 828-398-7574 davidavankle...@abtech.edu<mailto:davidavankle...@abtech.edu> Dedicated to Student Success From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you!
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
As our ILS does not display icons, my director has asked us to add the GMD to RDA records. We do this with our local records only, not in records we contribute to OCLC. For us, the GMD is valuable to both users and staff. Sometime soon we hope to have the 33X fields enabled for display and at that point we will reassess the value of the GMD in combination with the 33X fields. Dave David Van Kleeck Cataloging & Technical Services Holly Library A-B Tech Community College 340 Victoria Rd. Asheville, NC 28801 828-398-7574 davidavankle...@abtech.edu<mailto:davidavankle...@abtech.edu> Dedicated to Student Success From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you!
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
That's similar to our situation. Once we went with a system that used fixed field generated icons, the GMD was a burden. The icon also produces an equivalent term that is appended to titles in the Title Browse index, which means the last place the GMD had any value was gone. In the regular displays, the GMD is sometimes suppressed which means the associated ISBD punctuation is missing. The whole edifice of the GMD inserted into the 245 was a terrible idea to begin with. A far better solution would be supply a local subfield at the end of the 245 field. This subfield can easily be deleted in batch operations. So, for example, the Title Browse index can display subfields a n p b plus the extra subfield (perhaps repurposing h) which is put at the very end of the 245, after subfield c. We've recently added Content Type and Carrier Type in the Brief and Full Displays. In some cases they add useful additional information to the icons. One problem with fixed field icons is that they are not good at capturing the content and media aspects of complex or hybrid resources. The 336 and 338 values can capture all the categories. Content Type and Carrier Type can produce better results than the GMD. In a test implementation, I got this result for a case of 1 work, 2 expressions, and 4 manifestations: Vision in white by Roberts Nora [part of the brief record repeated for the following:] Content Type: text Carrier Type: volume Content Type: text Carrier Type: online resource Content Type: spoken word Carrier Type: online resource Content Type: spoken word Carrier Type: audio disc The inferior GMD equivalents would be: none [electronic resource] [electronic resource] [sound recording] The fixed field terms are: Book Ebook Audio Ebook Nonmusical Sound Recording Thomas Brenndorfer Guelph Public Library From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Kimberly Montgomery [kimberly.montgom...@ucf.edu] Sent: September-27-13 12:48 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Our consortia got rid of display of the GMD years ago. The public services people felt that it confused patrons too much. Icons are used instead. Unfortunately, integrating resources get no icon, so those are not easily identified as online resources. On the other hand, there is a link at the top of the results (and another in the sidebar facets) to limit to things that are available online. Kimberly Montgomery Electronic Resources Cataloger Librarian Cataloging Services Department University of Central Florida Libraries kimberly.montgom...@ucf.edu<mailto:kimberly.montgom...@ucf.edu> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you!
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
I do hope that libraries that are using non-standard GMDs do not include them in any records that they contribute to OCLC. If including GMDs in shared records, they should be the valid ones from AACR2. Adam Schiff University of Washington Libraries From: Kathleen Lamantia Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:06 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? We are also keeping the gmd. Patrons and staff both count on it for quick and easy identifying of which record is desired. It should be noted however, that we use non-standard gmds of our own construction – dvd, cd, book on cd, compact disc, etc – so they are really more like smds. We have recently transitioned to Sierra (we are a III library.) That may make some difference as these designations (derived from Field 30, Mat Type) now appear in a “choice” box to the left of the main display. The 245|h [gmd] was critical before we made the switch. Due to this other appearance of the gmds we may, in the future, consider eliminating them, but it will be some time yet. The terrible new 3xxs are currently suppressed. We are waiting to see if they ever serve any useful purpose for machine-searching of out catalog. They convey no comprehensible information to staff or patrons at all. Kathy Kathleen F. Lamantia, MLIS Technical Services Librarian 330-458-2723 wlmailhtml:klaman...@starklibrary.org From: Goldfarb, Kathie [mailto:kgoldf...@com.edu] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:53 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? We are keeping/adding the GMD. Both the GMD and, where available, the 3xx fields display. For patrons – I think the GMD is more visible and understandable. If there is a results list, the GMD will display, though the 3xx fields will not be available until the patron gets to the full record. The 3xx fields include more detailed information, but why should the patron have to go to the full record to get that info? The reason for that index screen is to help the patron narrow down the list of items that may be helpful to them. For staff – In our ILS, after doing a search, the GMD is critical. It is the only way to identify whether you are viewing the title of a print or eBook or some A/V material. Again, to avoid wasting time opening records that are not needed. kathie Kathleen Goldfarb Technical Services Librarian College of the Mainland Texas City, TX 77539 409 933 8202 P Please consider whether it is necessary to print this email. From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you! <>
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
Our consortia got rid of display of the GMD years ago. The public services people felt that it confused patrons too much. Icons are used instead. Unfortunately, integrating resources get no icon, so those are not easily identified as online resources. On the other hand, there is a link at the top of the results (and another in the sidebar facets) to limit to things that are available online. Kimberly Montgomery Electronic Resources Cataloger Librarian Cataloging Services Department University of Central Florida Libraries kimberly.montgom...@ucf.edu<mailto:kimberly.montgom...@ucf.edu> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you!
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
We are leaving a GMD if it is present (in both AACR2 and RDA records), but we are not adding a GMD to an RDA record if one is not present. We are following the principle of least work-it doesn't hurt our system right now if it is present in an old RDA record, but we won't add it. Steve McDonald steve.mcdon...@tufts.edu From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you!
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
Although we catalog almost exclusively in RDA, we add GMD post-export to non-book materials because the librarians want that information in the short-line displays of the initial hit lists and our current-generation ILS does not presently have the ability to generate functionally equivalent strings from 33X. One of the things we will be considering in looking at new-generation ILSs (e.g., Alma, Sierra) is their capacity to fully exploit the additional RDA fields for purposes of indexing and front-end display. Cary T. Isley Catalog & Metadata Librarian TCC On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Bruce Rennie wrote: > FWIW, here’s what we’re doing, and our rationale… Don’t know if it’s > good or bad, or if it’s for everyone… > > ** ** > > At present we are retaining GMD’s in AACR2, and adding GMD’s to RDA. > (Sorry, but we are.) > > ** ** > > Presently we’re supporting two separate OPAC products, one of which is old > and has very limited mechanisms for conveying format info. We have much > better options for representing format the new OPAC. > > ** ** > > We do plan on removing all GMD’s at some point prior to March 2016 > (hopefully well before then). The three prerequisites: > > ** ** > > **1. **We’ve upgraded all our sites to the newer better OPAC with > nice format labels and icons > > **2. **We’ve appended 33X fields to all legacy pre-RDA records > > **3. **We’ve configured our staff modules to display something > conveying format info in title hit lists. (Carrier? 300a?) > > ** ** > > That’s the general plan anyway. > > ** ** > > ** ** > > > > Bruce Rennie > > Bibliographic Database Librarian > > Kansas City Public Library / KC-LSP > > 14 W. 10th Street | Kansas City, MO 64105 > > (816) 701-3404 | (816) 651-0528 (Cell) > > bruceren...@kclibrary.org > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Karen Nelson > > *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2013 10:39 AM > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Subject:* [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? > > ** ** > > Hi, everyone; > > ** ** > > Could we get some postings on what others are doing *now* with the GMD? > There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. > > ** ** > > Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? > > Displaying? Etc. > > ** ** > > Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you! > > ** ** >
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
FWIW, here's what we're doing, and our rationale... Don't know if it's good or bad, or if it's for everyone... At present we are retaining GMD's in AACR2, and adding GMD's to RDA. (Sorry, but we are.) Presently we're supporting two separate OPAC products, one of which is old and has very limited mechanisms for conveying format info. We have much better options for representing format the new OPAC. We do plan on removing all GMD's at some point prior to March 2016 (hopefully well before then). The three prerequisites: 1. We've upgraded all our sites to the newer better OPAC with nice format labels and icons 2. We've appended 33X fields to all legacy pre-RDA records 3. We've configured our staff modules to display something conveying format info in title hit lists. (Carrier? 300a?) That's the general plan anyway. Bruce Rennie Bibliographic Database Librarian Kansas City Public Library / KC-LSP 14 W. 10th Street | Kansas City, MO 64105 (816) 701-3404 | (816) 651-0528 (Cell) bruceren...@kclibrary.org<mailto:bruceren...@kclibrary.org> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you!
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
We are also keeping the gmd. Patrons and staff both count on it for quick and easy identifying of which record is desired. It should be noted however, that we use non-standard gmds of our own construction - dvd, cd, book on cd, compact disc, etc - so they are really more like smds. We have recently transitioned to Sierra (we are a III library.) That may make some difference as these designations (derived from Field 30, Mat Type) now appear in a "choice" box to the left of the main display. The 245|h [gmd] was critical before we made the switch. Due to this other appearance of the gmds we may, in the future, consider eliminating them, but it will be some time yet. The terrible new 3xxs are currently suppressed. We are waiting to see if they ever serve any useful purpose for machine-searching of out catalog. They convey no comprehensible information to staff or patrons at all. Kathy [SA vcard logo] Kathleen F. Lamantia, MLIS Technical Services Librarian 330-458-2723 klaman...@starklibrary.org From: Goldfarb, Kathie [mailto:kgoldf...@com.edu] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:53 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? We are keeping/adding the GMD. Both the GMD and, where available, the 3xx fields display. For patrons - I think the GMD is more visible and understandable. If there is a results list, the GMD will display, though the 3xx fields will not be available until the patron gets to the full record. The 3xx fields include more detailed information, but why should the patron have to go to the full record to get that info? The reason for that index screen is to help the patron narrow down the list of items that may be helpful to them. For staff - In our ILS, after doing a search, the GMD is critical. It is the only way to identify whether you are viewing the title of a print or eBook or some A/V material. Again, to avoid wasting time opening records that are not needed. kathie Kathleen Goldfarb Technical Services Librarian College of the Mainland Texas City, TX 77539 409 933 8202 P Please consider whether it is necessary to print this email. From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you! <>
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
Ditto for us, Sally Carroll-Ricks, MLS, MM, AHIP Technical Systems/E-Resources Librarian Blumberg Memorial Library http://bulldogs.tlu.edu/library<http://www.tlu.edu/library> Subject Liaison for music, film, theater, dance, science and technology (including health sciences and kinesiology) Texas Lutheran University - Office 110 - 1000 W. Court St. - Seguin, TX 78155. (830) 372-8103 voice - (830) 372-8156 fax - scarr...@tlu.edu<http://us.mc1601.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scarr...@tlu.edu> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Goldfarb, Kathie Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:52 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? We are keeping/adding the GMD. Both the GMD and, where available, the 3xx fields display. For patrons - I think the GMD is more visible and understandable. If there is a results list, the GMD will display, though the 3xx fields will not be available until the patron gets to the full record. The 3xx fields include more detailed information, but why should the patron have to go to the full record to get that info? The reason for that index screen is to help the patron narrow down the list of items that may be helpful to them. For staff - In our ILS, after doing a search, the GMD is critical. It is the only way to identify whether you are viewing the title of a print or eBook or some A/V material. Again, to avoid wasting time opening records that are not needed. kathie Kathleen Goldfarb Technical Services Librarian College of the Mainland Texas City, TX 77539 409 933 8202 P Please consider whether it is necessary to print this email. From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you!
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
We are keeping/adding the GMD. Both the GMD and, where available, the 3xx fields display. For patrons - I think the GMD is more visible and understandable. If there is a results list, the GMD will display, though the 3xx fields will not be available until the patron gets to the full record. The 3xx fields include more detailed information, but why should the patron have to go to the full record to get that info? The reason for that index screen is to help the patron narrow down the list of items that may be helpful to them. For staff - In our ILS, after doing a search, the GMD is critical. It is the only way to identify whether you are viewing the title of a print or eBook or some A/V material. Again, to avoid wasting time opening records that are not needed. kathie Kathleen Goldfarb Technical Services Librarian College of the Mainland Texas City, TX 77539 409 933 8202 P Please consider whether it is necessary to print this email. From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you!
Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
Based on what our customers request, it depends on what the local system requires. Some systems require a GMD (245$h)-- of these customers some ask that we retain the 245$h, even if they are getting RDA conversion. Other customers ask us to generate a GMD (245$h) if it does not exist and there is sufficient data in the record to know what it should be. On the other hand, customers with systems that do not use the GMD (245$h) ask us to remove it, especially if they are having us add the CMC (336, 337, 338) Mary L. Mastraccio Cataloging & Authorities Manager MARCIVE, Inc. San Antonio, TX 78265 1-800-531-7678 From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:39 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this? Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you!
[RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?
Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you!
