Re: [RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible
It usually takes overnight for ours to flip. Did you check again this morning? Joan On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gene Fieg gf...@cst.edu wrote: I just checked ours. The authority records for Bible have been loaded, but none of the entries were changed, either subject or title (130 and 730) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.eduwrote: How delightful. I find we have a little puddle also... All of the bib records that I have checked so far have a previous entry for Bible.|p Acts. that was properly flipped. I wonder if they weren't busied still when the time came to flip the headings that didn't get flipped. (We have good 130s and 630s with bad 730s). Not sure what order III's AACP works on the records, but this might be what happened. If this is right, just open the authority record for Bible N.T. Acts. Suppress it. Close the record. Open it and again and unsuppress it. This will force a re-index for the record that will make it run through the AACP process again. Check tomorrow morning and see if your truants are still there. If they are, I'ld suggest using the Global update module. If this is right; there will be a lot of us in this same boat. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Joan Milligan jmillig...@udayton.eduwrote: Dear RDA-Lers, On Friday my colleague loaded the new authority records for all of the New Testament headings. When we looked at our Millennium catalog this morning, all the headings had flipped. However bib records with 730s such as Bible. N.T. Acts. English aren't affected by the new authority records. Can anyone offer advice on what to do about this? Do we need to go in and change these Uniform Titles one by one? Thank you! Joan -- Joan Milligan Catalog and Metadata Specialist University of Dayton Libraries 300 College Park Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360 937-229-4075 jmillig...@udayton.edu -- Adger Williams Colgate University Library 315-228-7310 awilli...@colgate.edu -- Gene Fieg Cataloger/Serials Librarian Claremont School of Theology gf...@cst.edu Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Lincoln University do not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any of the information or content contained in this forwarded email. The forwarded email is that of the original sender and does not represent the views of Claremont School of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. It has been forwarded as a courtesy for information only. -- Joan Milligan Catalog and Metadata Specialist University of Dayton Libraries 300 College Park Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360 937-229-4075 jmillig...@udayton.edu
Re: [RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible
We had a bunch without any subfield codes. They have to be tended by hand. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Joan Milligan jmillig...@udayton.eduwrote: It usually takes overnight for ours to flip. Did you check again this morning? Joan On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gene Fieg gf...@cst.edu wrote: I just checked ours. The authority records for Bible have been loaded, but none of the entries were changed, either subject or title (130 and 730) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.eduwrote: How delightful. I find we have a little puddle also... All of the bib records that I have checked so far have a previous entry for Bible.|p Acts. that was properly flipped. I wonder if they weren't busied still when the time came to flip the headings that didn't get flipped. (We have good 130s and 630s with bad 730s). Not sure what order III's AACP works on the records, but this might be what happened. If this is right, just open the authority record for Bible N.T. Acts. Suppress it. Close the record. Open it and again and unsuppress it. This will force a re-index for the record that will make it run through the AACP process again. Check tomorrow morning and see if your truants are still there. If they are, I'ld suggest using the Global update module. If this is right; there will be a lot of us in this same boat. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Joan Milligan jmillig...@udayton.eduwrote: Dear RDA-Lers, On Friday my colleague loaded the new authority records for all of the New Testament headings. When we looked at our Millennium catalog this morning, all the headings had flipped. However bib records with 730s such as Bible. N.T. Acts. English aren't affected by the new authority records. Can anyone offer advice on what to do about this? Do we need to go in and change these Uniform Titles one by one? Thank you! Joan -- Joan Milligan Catalog and Metadata Specialist University of Dayton Libraries 300 College Park Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360 937-229-4075 jmillig...@udayton.edu -- Adger Williams Colgate University Library 315-228-7310 awilli...@colgate.edu -- Gene Fieg Cataloger/Serials Librarian Claremont School of Theology gf...@cst.edu Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Lincoln University do not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any of the information or content contained in this forwarded email. The forwarded email is that of the original sender and does not represent the views of Claremont School of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. It has been forwarded as a courtesy for information only. -- Joan Milligan Catalog and Metadata Specialist University of Dayton Libraries 300 College Park Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360 937-229-4075 jmillig...@udayton.edu -- Adger Williams Colgate University Library 315-228-7310 awilli...@colgate.edu
Re: [RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible
Just checked ours again. We have several under Bible. Genesis And also many under Bible. O.T. Genesis. Ain't automation wonderful. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.eduwrote: We had a bunch without any subfield codes. They have to be tended by hand. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Joan Milligan jmillig...@udayton.eduwrote: It usually takes overnight for ours to flip. Did you check again this morning? Joan On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gene Fieg gf...@cst.edu wrote: I just checked ours. The authority records for Bible have been loaded, but none of the entries were changed, either subject or title (130 and 730) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.eduwrote: How delightful. I find we have a little puddle also... All of the bib records that I have checked so far have a previous entry for Bible.|p Acts. that was properly flipped. I wonder if they weren't busied still when the time came to flip the headings that didn't get flipped. (We have good 130s and 630s with bad 730s). Not sure what order III's AACP works on the records, but this might be what happened. If this is right, just open the authority record for Bible N.T. Acts. Suppress it. Close the record. Open it and again and unsuppress it. This will force a re-index for the record that will make it run through the AACP process again. Check tomorrow morning and see if your truants are still there. If they are, I'ld suggest using the Global update module. If this is right; there will be a lot of us in this same boat. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Joan Milligan jmillig...@udayton.eduwrote: Dear RDA-Lers, On Friday my colleague loaded the new authority records for all of the New Testament headings. When we looked at our Millennium catalog this morning, all the headings had flipped. However bib records with 730s such as Bible. N.T. Acts. English aren't affected by the new authority records. Can anyone offer advice on what to do about this? Do we need to go in and change these Uniform Titles one by one? Thank you! Joan -- Joan Milligan Catalog and Metadata Specialist University of Dayton Libraries 300 College Park Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360 937-229-4075 jmillig...@udayton.edu -- Adger Williams Colgate University Library 315-228-7310 awilli...@colgate.edu -- Gene Fieg Cataloger/Serials Librarian Claremont School of Theology gf...@cst.edu Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Lincoln University do not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any of the information or content contained in this forwarded email. The forwarded email is that of the original sender and does not represent the views of Claremont School of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. It has been forwarded as a courtesy for information only. -- Joan Milligan Catalog and Metadata Specialist University of Dayton Libraries 300 College Park Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360 937-229-4075 jmillig...@udayton.edu -- Adger Williams Colgate University Library 315-228-7310 awilli...@colgate.edu -- Gene Fieg Cataloger/Serials Librarian Claremont School of Theology gf...@cst.edu Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Lincoln University do not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any of the information or content contained in this forwarded email. The forwarded email is that of the original sender and does not represent the views of Claremont School of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. It has been forwarded as a courtesy for information only.
Re: [RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible
We've not yet come to the point where changed authority records for Bible are loaded into our local catalog. I notice OCLC's authority file already reflects this change but OCLC bibs, even those with controlled headings, do not. Perhaps someone will know: Are heading changes in existing OCLC bib records to follow in a few days, months, years??? Jack Jack Wu Franciscan University of Steubenville j...@franciscan.edu Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.edu 3/26/2013 9:40 AM We had a bunch without any subfield codes. They have to be tended by hand. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Joan Milligan jmillig...@udayton.edu wrote: It usually takes overnight for ours to flip. Did you check again this morning? Joan On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Gene Fieg gf...@cst.edu wrote: I just checked ours. The authority records for Bible have been loaded, but none of the entries were changed, either subject or title (130 and 730) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.edu wrote: How delightful. I find we have a little puddle also... All of the bib records that I have checked so far have a previous entry for Bible.|p Acts. that was properly flipped. I wonder if they weren't busied still when the time came to flip the headings that didn't get flipped. (We have good 130s and 630s with bad 730s). Not sure what order III's AACP works on the records, but this might be what happened. If this is right, just open the authority record for Bible N.T. Acts. Suppress it. Close the record. Open it and again and unsuppress it. This will force a re-index for the record that will make it run through the AACP process again. Check tomorrow morning and see if your truants are still there. If they are, I'ld suggest using the Global update module. If this is right; there will be a lot of us in this same boat. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Joan Milligan jmillig...@udayton.edu wrote: Dear RDA-Lers, On Friday my colleague loaded the new authority records for all of the New Testament headings. When we looked at our Millennium catalog this morning, all the headings had flipped. However bib records with 730s such as Bible. N.T. Acts. English aren't affected by the new authority records. Can anyone offer advice on what to do about this? Do we need to go in and change these Uniform Titles one by one? Thank you! Joan -- Joan Milligan Catalog and Metadata Specialist University of Dayton Libraries 300 College Park Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360 937-229-4075 ( tel:937-229-4075 ) jmillig...@udayton.edu -- Adger Williams Colgate University Library 315-228-7310 ( tel:315-228-7310 ) awilli...@colgate.edu -- Gene Fieg Cataloger/Serials Librarian Claremont School of Theology gf...@cst.edu Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Lincoln University do not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any of the information or content contained in this forwarded email. The forwarded email is that of the original sender and does not represent the views of Claremont School of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. It has been forwarded as a courtesy for information only. -- Joan Milligan Catalog and Metadata Specialist University of Dayton Libraries 300 College Park Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360 937-229-4075 ( tel:937-229-4075 ) jmillig...@udayton.edu -- Adger Williams Colgate University Library 315-228-7310 awilli...@colgate.edu Scanned by for virus, malware and spam by SCM appliance
Re: [RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible
I don’t have the automated authority control turned on in my Innovative installation. I’ve just downloaded and overlaid the authority records. The Global Update functionality works very well to flip the bibliographic headings – a reasonable compromise between fully automated and a one-by-one approach. I have found that it takes some care with the process, but it is mostly manageable. Caveats: 1) Do not automatically strip out all O.T. and N.T. – there are instances were these need to be flipped to Old Testament and New Testament. 2) Do not automatically flip all O.T. and N.T. to Old Testament and New Testament – there are instances where the final period (full stop) needs to be retained. 3) Make no assumptions that your ‘Find’ text corresponds to a clean data file – re-execute your search to see what “dirty data” floats to the top and hence requires manual intervention. 4) Regarding searching and downloading: There are instances in the local subject authority file where older records have either been subsumed into name authorities or deleted outright – these too require some manual grooming. John F. Myers, Catalog Librarian Schaffer Library, Union College Schenectady NY 12308 mye...@union.edumailto:mye...@union.edu 518-388-6623 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Joan Milligan jmillig...@udayton.edumailto:jmillig...@udayton.edu wrote: On Friday my colleague loaded the new authority records for all of the New Testament headings. When we looked at our Millennium catalog this morning, all the headings had flipped. However bib records with 730s such as Bible. N.T. Acts. English aren't affected by the new authority records. Can anyone offer advice on what to do about this? Do we need to go in and change these Uniform Titles one by one?
Re: [RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible
If your system can export and import a file of MARC records of interest, the program you find here may be of use. This is for all of the phase 2 changes, not just the Bible. http://files.library.northwestern.edu/public/RdaConversion Start with the documentation, whose name begins Program for the manipulation ... Gary L. Strawn, Authorities Librarian, etc. Northwestern University Library, 1970 Campus Drive, Evanston IL 60208-2300 e-mail: mrsm...@northwestern.edu voice: 847/491-2788 fax: 847/491-8306 Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit. BatchCat version: 2007.22.416 From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Milligan Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 7:45 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible Dear RDA-Lers, On Friday my colleague loaded the new authority records for all of the New Testament headings. When we looked at our Millennium catalog this morning, all the headings had flipped. However bib records with 730s such as Bible. N.T. Acts. English aren't affected by the new authority records. Can anyone offer advice on what to do about this? Do we need to go in and change these Uniform Titles one by one? Thank you! Joan -- Joan Milligan Catalog and Metadata Specialist University of Dayton Libraries 300 College Park Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360 937-229-4075 jmillig...@udayton.edumailto:jmillig...@udayton.edu [Image removed by sender.] inline: ~WRD000.jpg
Re: [RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible
How delightful. I find we have a little puddle also... All of the bib records that I have checked so far have a previous entry for Bible.|p Acts. that was properly flipped. I wonder if they weren't busied still when the time came to flip the headings that didn't get flipped. (We have good 130s and 630s with bad 730s). Not sure what order III's AACP works on the records, but this might be what happened. If this is right, just open the authority record for Bible N.T. Acts. Suppress it. Close the record. Open it and again and unsuppress it. This will force a re-index for the record that will make it run through the AACP process again. Check tomorrow morning and see if your truants are still there. If they are, I'ld suggest using the Global update module. If this is right; there will be a lot of us in this same boat. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Joan Milligan jmillig...@udayton.eduwrote: Dear RDA-Lers, On Friday my colleague loaded the new authority records for all of the New Testament headings. When we looked at our Millennium catalog this morning, all the headings had flipped. However bib records with 730s such as Bible. N.T. Acts. English aren't affected by the new authority records. Can anyone offer advice on what to do about this? Do we need to go in and change these Uniform Titles one by one? Thank you! Joan -- Joan Milligan Catalog and Metadata Specialist University of Dayton Libraries 300 College Park Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360 937-229-4075 jmillig...@udayton.edu -- Adger Williams Colgate University Library 315-228-7310 awilli...@colgate.edu
Re: [RDA-L] Bib records with uniform titles for the Bible
I just checked ours. The authority records for Bible have been loaded, but none of the entries were changed, either subject or title (130 and 730) On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.eduwrote: How delightful. I find we have a little puddle also... All of the bib records that I have checked so far have a previous entry for Bible.|p Acts. that was properly flipped. I wonder if they weren't busied still when the time came to flip the headings that didn't get flipped. (We have good 130s and 630s with bad 730s). Not sure what order III's AACP works on the records, but this might be what happened. If this is right, just open the authority record for Bible N.T. Acts. Suppress it. Close the record. Open it and again and unsuppress it. This will force a re-index for the record that will make it run through the AACP process again. Check tomorrow morning and see if your truants are still there. If they are, I'ld suggest using the Global update module. If this is right; there will be a lot of us in this same boat. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Joan Milligan jmillig...@udayton.eduwrote: Dear RDA-Lers, On Friday my colleague loaded the new authority records for all of the New Testament headings. When we looked at our Millennium catalog this morning, all the headings had flipped. However bib records with 730s such as Bible. N.T. Acts. English aren't affected by the new authority records. Can anyone offer advice on what to do about this? Do we need to go in and change these Uniform Titles one by one? Thank you! Joan -- Joan Milligan Catalog and Metadata Specialist University of Dayton Libraries 300 College Park Dayton, Ohio 45469-1360 937-229-4075 jmillig...@udayton.edu -- Adger Williams Colgate University Library 315-228-7310 awilli...@colgate.edu -- Gene Fieg Cataloger/Serials Librarian Claremont School of Theology gf...@cst.edu Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Lincoln University do not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any of the information or content contained in this forwarded email. The forwarded email is that of the original sender and does not represent the views of Claremont School of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. It has been forwarded as a courtesy for information only.
