Re: [RDA-L] Non-"arabic", non-roman numerals
I know others have responded already and I agree with giving the Arabic form (“15, 418 pages”) in the “main” extent statement, but I usually also give a parallel field with the Greek numeral in these cases. This isn’t a case of RDA 3.4.5.2—the Greek numeral isn’t a word, it’s a numeral, so this isn’t an example of pages numbered in words, and so the basic RDA instruction would apply but in current North American practice we romanize (if turning a Greek numeral into an Arabic numeral can be called “romanization” ☺) following RDA 1.4 alternative and the ALA-LC Greek romanization table (http://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/romanization/greek.pdf) and optionally give a parallel field with the vernacular. Bob Robert L. Maxwell Head, Special Collections and Formats Catalog Dept. 6728 Harold B. Lee Library Brigham Young University Provo, UT 84602 (801)422-5568 "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842. From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 11:55 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Non-"arabic", non-roman numerals I have a Greek book, with the preface numbered in Greek numerals (cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_numerals). I assume that I would follow RDA 3.4.5.2, "Record pages, etc., that are numbered in words by giving the numeric equivalent" and record: 15, 418 pages and add a note: "Pages 1-15 (first sequence) numbered with Greek numerals." Though it looks like the record will validate in OCLC if I record: ιεʹ, 418 pages. Is there a preference? I would note that there are other instances in which a books page numbers would be recorded in other numeral systems: Arabic (using real Arabic numerals, not our so-called "Arabic numerals"), Hebrew, Devanagari, etc. Thanks, Ben Benjamin Abrahamse Cataloging Coordinator Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT Libraries 617-253-7137
Re: [RDA-L] Non-"arabic", non-roman numerals
As far as I known, the language of 300 fields depends on your cataloging language. If it is a English bibliographic record (for a Greek book), the 300 field should be in English. So I would use Arabic numbers. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Gene Fieg wrote: > And we're worried about ca. and other Latin abbreviations??? > > Would use Arabic numbers. Put the Greek enumeration, if you want. If you > put in the 300 field, it will definitely Greek to the patron. > > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote: > >> I have a Greek book, with the preface numbered in Greek numerals (cf. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_numerals). >> >> ** ** >> >> I assume that I would follow RDA 3.4.5.2, "Record pages, etc., that are >> numbered in words by giving the numeric equivalent" and record: >> >> ** ** >> >> 15, 418 pages >> >> ** ** >> >> and add a note: >> >> ** ** >> >> "Pages 1-15 (first sequence) numbered with Greek numerals." >> >> ** ** >> >> Though it looks like the record will validate in OCLC if I record: ιεʹ, >> 418 pages. >> >> ** ** >> >> Is there a preference? I would note that there are other instances in >> which a books page numbers would be recorded in other numeral systems: >> Arabic (using real Arabic numerals, not our so-called "Arabic numerals"), >> Hebrew, Devanagari, etc. >> >> ** ** >> >> Thanks, >> Ben >> >> ** ** >> >> Benjamin Abrahamse >> >> Cataloging Coordinator >> >> Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems >> >> MIT Libraries >> >> 617-253-7137 >> >> ** ** >> > > > > -- > Gene Fieg > Cataloger/Serials Librarian > Claremont School of Theology > gf...@cst.edu > > Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Lincoln University do not > represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any of the information > or content contained in this forwarded email. The forwarded email is that > of the original sender and does not represent the views of Claremont School > of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. It has been forwarded as a > courtesy for information only. > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
Re: [RDA-L] Non-"arabic", non-roman numerals
And we're worried about ca. and other Latin abbreviations??? Would use Arabic numbers. Put the Greek enumeration, if you want. If you put in the 300 field, it will definitely Greek to the patron. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote: > I have a Greek book, with the preface numbered in Greek numerals (cf. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_numerals). > > ** ** > > I assume that I would follow RDA 3.4.5.2, "Record pages, etc., that are > numbered in words by giving the numeric equivalent" and record: > > ** ** > > 15, 418 pages > > ** ** > > and add a note: > > ** ** > > "Pages 1-15 (first sequence) numbered with Greek numerals." > > ** ** > > Though it looks like the record will validate in OCLC if I record: ιεʹ, > 418 pages. > > ** ** > > Is there a preference? I would note that there are other instances in > which a books page numbers would be recorded in other numeral systems: > Arabic (using real Arabic numerals, not our so-called "Arabic numerals"), > Hebrew, Devanagari, etc. > > ** ** > > Thanks, > Ben > > ** ** > > Benjamin Abrahamse > > Cataloging Coordinator > > Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems > > MIT Libraries > > 617-253-7137 > > ** ** > -- Gene Fieg Cataloger/Serials Librarian Claremont School of Theology gf...@cst.edu Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Lincoln University do not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any of the information or content contained in this forwarded email. The forwarded email is that of the original sender and does not represent the views of Claremont School of Theology or Claremont Lincoln University. It has been forwarded as a courtesy for information only.
