Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Bond-type perception.

2011-04-05 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison

On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Greg Landrum wrote:

 aromaticity, the RDKit does not do any bond perception; it assumes
 that bond types are set properly in the input molecules. So if you
 want to build methane, you need to set the four C-H bonds to type

Moreover, I'd be happy to donate bond perception code to RDKit, but these 
things only really work well when you have 3D coordinates. (I've tried many 
implementations.)

But I can't quite figure out how you'd want to perceive bond types without 
any obvious information.

Cheers,
-Geoff
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[Rdkit-discuss] Bond-type perception.

2011-04-04 Thread Jacco van de Streek
Dear Greg,

we have started using RDKit today. We would like to use RDKit to
perceive bond types, even for topological molecules without 3D
coordinates. We tried to do this by creating an RWMol object for methane
consisting of one carbon and four hydrogen atoms, with four C-H bonds
all of type Bond::UNSPECIFIED. The atoms do not have 3D coordinates, so
this is a topological model. We then called sanitizeMol() and
constructed an ROMol from the RWMol. When we then wrote the smiles
representation of the ROMol to screen, however, the bond types were
still Bond::UNSPECIFIED.

Any thoughts?

Best wishes,
-- 
Dr Jacco van de Streek
Senior Scientist
Avant-garde Materials Simulation
Freiburg im Breisgau, Germany


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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Bond-type perception.

2011-04-04 Thread Greg Landrum
Dear Jacco,

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Jacco van de Streek
vandestr...@avmatsim.de wrote:
 Dear Greg,

 we have started using RDKit today. We would like to use RDKit to
 perceive bond types, even for topological molecules without 3D
 coordinates. We tried to do this by creating an RWMol object for methane
 consisting of one carbon and four hydrogen atoms, with four C-H bonds
 all of type Bond::UNSPECIFIED. The atoms do not have 3D coordinates, so
 this is a topological model. We then called sanitizeMol() and
 constructed an ROMol from the RWMol. When we then wrote the smiles
 representation of the ROMol to screen, however, the bond types were
 still Bond::UNSPECIFIED.

 Any thoughts?

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do. Aside from recognizing
aromaticity, the RDKit does not do any bond perception; it assumes
that bond types are set properly in the input molecules. So if you
want to build methane, you need to set the four C-H bonds to type
Bond::SINGLE.

Best Regards,
-greg

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