Re: [RE-wrenches] SI6048s won't charge from generator

2014-05-05 Thread William Miller
Jerry:

The gen is powering the loads through a bypass breaker so we can't be stopping 
and starting it. We did simulate an inverter start by initiating a start signal 
and immediately closing the gen feed breaker. This eliminated a sync error but 
did not allow the gen to charge. 

WM


Miller Solar

 On May 4, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Jerry Shafer jerrysgarag...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Charger set to on bit the max amps to 0 or volt setting to high. Isis you use 
 the inverter to turn on the genny or did you just start it up because it may 
 not connect if it did not request it that has happened to my customers. Go 
 into the gen menu and try from there.
 
 On May 4, 2014 7:25 PM, William Miller will...@millersolar.com wrote:
 Jerry:
 
 Your answer was pretty vague. What kind of mid-wire or programming error?
 
 William
 
 Miller Solar
 
 On May 4, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Jerry Shafer jerrysgarag...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sorry, Programming or mis wire is where i would put my money.
 
 On May 3, 2014 1:07 PM, will...@millersolar.com wrote:
 Friends:
 
  
 
 We commissioned a new SI6048 3 phase system yesterday.  It will create 
 power but it won’t charge from the generator.  This is a generator that 
 was working with a 3 SI4548 system.  We checked rotation and volts and 
 hertz.  We checked inverter programming.  All seems correct.  There is no 
 phone service so using tech support is cumbersome.
 
  
 
 Has anyone experienced this problem before?
 
  
 
 Thanks!
 
  
 
 William
 
  
 
  
 
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[RE-wrenches] Solar Edge Experience?

2014-05-05 Thread August Goers
Hi Wrenches,



I have been watching Solar Edge for a while now and am curious if other
wrenches have been using their product and what they think about it. I’m
generally hesitant to adopt new technology until it has a good track record
but I have to admit that I’m seeing some serious benefits in the Solar Edge
system – long strings, module level tracking and monitoring, design
flexibility, etc. Can folks who have tried their product let me know what
you think and if you’ve had any failures?



http://www.solaredge.us/groups/us/inverter/single-phase-solar-inverter



Best,



August



Luminalt
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[RE-wrenches] 1000V PV In Hawaii

2014-05-05 Thread Max Isaacs
Wrenches,

I'm am in the initial phases of design for a commercial system in Honolulu
and I'm planning on 1000v on the DC side and I want to know if anyone has
had any issues with the AHJ on going over 600v.  Any advise on designing or
installing in Hawaii is appreciated.

Best,
Max
---
Max Isaacs
Oak City Power LLC
NC Electrical License 29594-U
NABCEP PV Installer Certification # 091209-88
Office:   (919) 628-0268
Mobile:  (919) 717-9901
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Edge Experience?

2014-05-05 Thread William Dorsett
August, it’s hard for me to see the point if you get all those benefits (long 
strings, module level tracking and monitoring, design flexibility) for the same 
price with micros.

 

Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS

 

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[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of August Goers
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:57 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Solar Edge Experience?

 

Hi Wrenches,

 

I have been watching Solar Edge for a while now and am curious if other 
wrenches have been using their product and what they think about it. I’m 
generally hesitant to adopt new technology until it has a good track record but 
I have to admit that I’m seeing some serious benefits in the Solar Edge system 
– long strings, module level tracking and monitoring, design flexibility, etc. 
Can folks who have tried their product let me know what you think and if you’ve 
had any failures?

 

http://www.solaredge.us/groups/us/inverter/single-phase-solar-inverter

 

Best,

 

August

 

Luminalt

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Edge Experience?

2014-05-05 Thread August Goers
Hi Bill,



That was my take up until recently. However, we’ve had lots of Enphase
failures with M190s and M210s (to Enphase’s credit, no failures yet with
M215s and M250s) so I’m hesitant to put more and more micros up on the
roof. Plus, the price starts to beat micros around a system size of 4+ kW.
We’re seeing a lot of competitors offer Solar Edge in the Bay Area
including Solar City so there must be some good reasons to use them. In my
mind, reliability is of utmost importance and I don’t have any firsthand
knowledge on how the Solar Edge systems are working. I think they’ve only
been in the US for about 3 years.



Best, August



*From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:
re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *William Dorsett
*Sent:* Monday, May 05, 2014 11:36 AM
*To:* 'RE-wrenches'
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Edge Experience?



August, it’s hard for me to see the point if you get all those benefits
(long strings, module level tracking and monitoring, design flexibility)
for the same price with micros.



Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS



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mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.orgre-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]
*On Behalf Of *August Goers
*Sent:* Monday, May 05, 2014 10:57 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Solar Edge Experience?



Hi Wrenches,



I have been watching Solar Edge for a while now and am curious if other
wrenches have been using their product and what they think about it. I’m
generally hesitant to adopt new technology until it has a good track record
but I have to admit that I’m seeing some serious benefits in the Solar Edge
system – long strings, module level tracking and monitoring, design
flexibility, etc. Can folks who have tried their product let me know what
you think and if you’ve had any failures?



http://www.solaredge.us/groups/us/inverter/single-phase-solar-inverter



Best,



August



Luminalt
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Edge Experience?

2014-05-05 Thread Erika Weliczko
No trunk cable is bonus. Working with regular PV cable is easier on stocking 
materials. 
Safe working voltage is real bonus and makes testing during installation 
reasonable. 

Strings over 12 is bonus. Sometimes, 16, 18+ makes sense physically. Now it can 
make sense electrically. With different solar exposures. 

Still needing to use metal conduit inside is sometimes a hassle, but MC cable 
makes it doable. 

No way to test communication with optimizer until DC voltage is applied. This 
means if you have a DOA optimizer that reads correct voltage, you are removing 
modules to get to an optimizer. That is a drag. Support is pretty good. 

The new 7kw inverter matched to 40a OCP to max out residential 200A panel 
backfed breaker sounds good. 



Erika Weliczko
REpower Solutions
cell: 216.402.4458

On May 5, 2014, at 11:56 AM, August Goers aug...@luminalt.com wrote:

 Hi Wrenches,
  
 I have been watching Solar Edge for a while now and am curious if other 
 wrenches have been using their product and what they think about it. I’m 
 generally hesitant to adopt new technology until it has a good track record 
 but I have to admit that I’m seeing some serious benefits in the Solar Edge 
 system – long strings, module level tracking and monitoring, design 
 flexibility, etc. Can folks who have tried their product let me know what you 
 think and if you’ve had any failures?
  
 http://www.solaredge.us/groups/us/inverter/single-phase-solar-inverter
  
 Best,
  
 August
  
 Luminalt
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Edge Experience?

2014-05-05 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Augustwe have a half dozen systems out thereThey are all producing
with high efficiency and no failures yetI think one advantage they have
over micro's is that your wire runs are made using 350VDC  and so you can
get up to 25 modules or  ~5200 watts per string ( which ever you hit
first)where as with Enphase you are limited to 16 inverters.
Addtionally they have 300 watt optimizers which i like for the bigger 60
cell modules.  This means no clipping. That said Enphase has some
arguements why clipping isn't so bad.
We have found there to be more labor on a Solar Edge installation as there
is both a central inverter and a rooftop box that needs installed.
All the communications to their web site has been working perfectly so far.
 As does the communication between the inverters and optimizers.
Make sure to get the proper module connectors that match your solar panels.

Good luck.

Sunny Regards,
Kirpal Khalsa
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
Renewable Energy Systems
www.oregonsolarworks.com
541-218-0201 m
541-299-0402 o


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:58 PM, August Goers aug...@luminalt.com wrote:

 Hi Bill,



 That was my take up until recently. However, we’ve had lots of Enphase
 failures with M190s and M210s (to Enphase’s credit, no failures yet with
 M215s and M250s) so I’m hesitant to put more and more micros up on the
 roof. Plus, the price starts to beat micros around a system size of 4+ kW.
 We’re seeing a lot of competitors offer Solar Edge in the Bay Area
 including Solar City so there must be some good reasons to use them. In my
 mind, reliability is of utmost importance and I don’t have any firsthand
 knowledge on how the Solar Edge systems are working. I think they’ve only
 been in the US for about 3 years.



 Best, August



 *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:
 re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *William Dorsett
 *Sent:* Monday, May 05, 2014 11:36 AM
 *To:* 'RE-wrenches'
 *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Edge Experience?



 August, it’s hard for me to see the point if you get all those benefits
 (long strings, module level tracking and monitoring, design flexibility)
 for the same price with micros.



 Bill Dorsett

 Manhattan, KS



 *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [
 mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.orgre-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]
 *On Behalf Of *August Goers
 *Sent:* Monday, May 05, 2014 10:57 AM
 *To:* RE-wrenches
 *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Solar Edge Experience?



 Hi Wrenches,



 I have been watching Solar Edge for a while now and am curious if other
 wrenches have been using their product and what they think about it. I’m
 generally hesitant to adopt new technology until it has a good track record
 but I have to admit that I’m seeing some serious benefits in the Solar Edge
 system – long strings, module level tracking and monitoring, design
 flexibility, etc. Can folks who have tried their product let me know what
 you think and if you’ve had any failures?



 http://www.solaredge.us/groups/us/inverter/single-phase-solar-inverter



 Best,



 August



 Luminalt

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