Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Sunny Boy Display Window

[Chris Mason]

I now put HVAC foil tape over all windows to keep the sun off when I
install.

On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Ray  wrote:

> I've also used some special 3M sanding pads that go up to 10,000 grit.
> They are used for polishing airplane wind shields.  Enough elbow grease,
> you can get any result you want.
>
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
> 303 505-8760
>
> On 5/11/18 1:48 PM, Jerry Shafer wrote:
>
> Wayne
> We use automotive grade polisher after a run with 1200 then 1800 the 2400
> wet sand paper, you must clean the surface before attempting to polish and
> then you need a powered cotton wheel, that works for us
> Jerry
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2018, 4:48 AM Wayne Irwin 
> wrote:
>
>> We have installed quite a few SB's over the years and are seeing a
>> growing number of fogged over display lenses.
>>
>> We've tried headlight polish with limited success.
>>
>> Other than purchasing a new lid from SMA does anyone have another
>> solution to restoring or replacing the window?
>>
>>
>> Wayne Irwin,
>> President
>> License #CVC56695
>> State Licensed Solar Contractor
>> Pure Energy Solar International Inc.
>> wa...@pureenergysolar.com 
>> http://PureEnergySolar.com
>> http://SolarChargingStation.net 
>> 352 377-6527 Office
>> 352 336-3299 Fax
>> 352 316-1637 Cell
>>
>> The Sun Is Always Shining!
>>
>> The content of this message is Pure Energy Solar Confidential. If you are
>> not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, any use
>> or distribution is prohibited. Please notify me immediately by reply e-mail
>> and delete this message from your computer system. Thank you.
>> ___
>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>>
>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>>
>> Change listserver email address & settings:
>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>>
>> List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.
>> org/maillist.html
>>
>> List rules & etiquette:
>> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>>
>> Check out or update participant bios:
>> www.members.re-wrenches.org
>>
>>
>
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & 
> settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List-Archive: 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html
>
> List rules & etiquette:www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out or update participant bios:www.members.re-wrenches.org
>
>
>
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.
> org/maillist.html
>
> List rules & etiquette:
> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out or update participant bios:
> www.members.re-wrenches.org
>
>
>


-- 
Chris Mason
NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™
Solar Design Engineer
Generac Generators Industrial technician

www.cometsolar.com 
264.235.5670
869.662.5670
Skype: netconcepts
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Sunny Boy Display Window

[Jerry Shafer]

Wayne
We use automotive grade polisher after a run with 1200 then 1800 the 2400
wet sand paper, you must clean the surface before attempting to polish and
then you need a powered cotton wheel, that works for us
Jerry

On Fri, May 11, 2018, 4:48 AM Wayne Irwin 
wrote:

> We have installed quite a few SB's over the years and are seeing a growing
> number of fogged over display lenses.
>
> We've tried headlight polish with limited success.
>
> Other than purchasing a new lid from SMA does anyone have another solution
> to restoring or replacing the window?
>
>
> Wayne Irwin,
> President
> License #CVC56695
> State Licensed Solar Contractor
> Pure Energy Solar International Inc.
> wa...@pureenergysolar.com 
> http://PureEnergySolar.com
> http://SolarChargingStation.net 
> 352 377-6527 Office
> 352 336-3299 Fax
> 352 316-1637 Cell
>
> The Sun Is Always Shining!
>
> The content of this message is Pure Energy Solar Confidential. If you are
> not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, any use
> or distribution is prohibited. Please notify me immediately by reply e-mail
> and delete this message from your computer system. Thank you.
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List-Archive:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html
>
> List rules & etiquette:
> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out or update participant bios:
> www.members.re-wrenches.org
>
>
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Sunny Boy Display Window

[Dana]

Toothpaste is a good option & also there is a product that re-establishes the 
clarity to headlight lenses at your local auto parts store.

 



Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc. 

C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com

Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374

NABCEP # 051112-136 
www.solarwork.biz

"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988"  

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

 

 

From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of 
Marco Mangelsdorf
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 10:33 AM
To: RE-wrenches 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Sunny Boy Display Window

 

Toothpaste. 

On Friday, May 11, 2018, Wayne Irwin  > wrote:

We have installed quite a few SB's over the years and are seeing a growing 
number of fogged over display lenses. 

We've tried headlight polish with limited success. 

Other than purchasing a new lid from SMA does anyone have another solution to 
restoring or replacing the window?

 

Wayne Irwin,
President
License #CVC56695 
State Licensed Solar Contractor
Pure Energy Solar International Inc. 
wa...@pureenergysolar.com   
http://PureEnergySolar.com
http://SolarChargingStation.net  
352 377-6527 Office
352 336-3299 Fax
352 316-1637 Cell

The Sun Is Always Shining!

The content of this message is Pure Energy Solar Confidential. If you are not 
the intended recipient and have received this message in error, any use or 
distribution is prohibited. Please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and 
delete this message from your computer system. Thank you.

___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fullriver Battery meltdown

[Steve Higgins]

 Larry,

Thanks for the pics...

AGM's, because they are valve regulated, do need a bit more airflow around
them.  Remember there isn't the vast amount of electrolyte in a flooded
cells AGM's they are starved electrolyte batteries the only electrolyte is
what is in the Glass Matting.   Has FR seen these pics?  If so they may not
like the lack of airflow.

I'd talk with Full River, and ask them to do a tear down on these, they may
or may not...  See if you can get them to cover if they find a
manufacturing defect internally.

The tear down should tell them/and you if the temps for some reason just
got too hot, or if indeed it was a manufacturing defect that caused them
both to swell.

It'll probably cost you shipping one way, but might be worth it if indeed
they find a defect.



 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Steve Higgins ⋅ Technical Services Manager
t +1.902.597.4020  m +1.206.790.5840
f +1.902.597.8447  e st...@surrette.com
<#UNIQUE_ID_SafeHtmlFilter_> 
 





--
CONFIDENTIALITY: The information transmitted herein is intended only for
the addressee and may contain confidential, proprietary and/or privileged
material. Any unauthorized review, distribution or other use of or the
taking of any action in reliance upon this information is prohibited. If
you receive this email in error, please contact the sender and delete or
destroy this message and all copies.
--

On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Starlight Solar Power Systems <
la...@starlightsolar.com> wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Here is another similar installation. There is air space on top of and
> some between the battery. Many of our installations have the AGM batteries
> completely sealed in a box. 17 years of installing battery systems like
> this and not one single problem.
>
> Larry Crutcher
> Starlight Solar Power Systems
> (928) 342-9103
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 10, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Steve Higgins  wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
> Do you have any pic's of them installed?
>
> That would help a lot in getting an idea of how/why these failed.
>
> I do have two questions for you...
>
> Were there tie down straps over the tops of the batteries?
>
> Where was the temp sensor?
>
>
>
>
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> Steve Higgins ⋅ Technical Services Manager
> t +1.902.597.4020  m +1.206.790.5840
>
>>
>>
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.
> org/maillist.html
>
> List rules & etiquette:
> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out or update participant bios:
> www.members.re-wrenches.org
>
>
>
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fullriver Battery meltdown

[Starlight Solar Power Systems]

Steve,

Here is another similar installation. There is air space on top of and some 
between the battery. Many of our installations have the AGM batteries 
completely sealed in a box. 17 years of installing battery systems like this 
and not one single problem.  

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems
(928) 342-9103





On May 10, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Steve Higgins  wrote:

Larry, 

Do you have any pic's of them installed? 

That would help a lot in getting an idea of how/why these failed. 

I do have two questions for you... 

Were there tie down straps over the tops of the batteries? 

Where was the temp sensor? 




   
  
  
  
  
  
  
Steve Higgins ⋅ Technical Services Manager
t +1.902.597.4020  m +1.206.790.5840

___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA Sunny Boy Display Window

[Marco Mangelsdorf]

Toothpaste.

On Friday, May 11, 2018, Wayne Irwin  wrote:

> We have installed quite a few SB's over the years and are seeing a growing
> number of fogged over display lenses.
>
> We've tried headlight polish with limited success.
>
> Other than purchasing a new lid from SMA does anyone have another solution
> to restoring or replacing the window?
>
>
> Wayne Irwin,
> President
> License #CVC56695
> State Licensed Solar Contractor
> Pure Energy Solar International Inc.
> wa...@pureenergysolar.com 
> http://PureEnergySolar.com
> http://SolarChargingStation.net 
> 352 377-6527 Office
> 352 336-3299 Fax
> 352 316-1637 Cell
>
> The Sun Is Always Shining!
>
> The content of this message is Pure Energy Solar Confidential. If you are
> not the intended recipient and have received this message in error, any use
> or distribution is prohibited. Please notify me immediately by reply e-mail
> and delete this message from your computer system. Thank you.
>
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

[RE-wrenches] Conext Insight Portal issues FYI

[Kevin Pegg]

In case anyone is wondering why the Conext portal data has been screwed up for 
a week, and as of this moment most sites are offline:

" The data processing side of Conext Insight is having troubles with the 
current workload.  The data is not lost, but it can take a significant amount 
of time for some packets to be completely processed.  If a single packet takes 
too long to process, it is rescheduled for a random time in the future in the 
hopes that the workload on the machine is lower and the packet will be 
successfully processed.  It appears that some packets are being rescheduled 
repeatedly and taking a week to land in a window when they can be successfully 
processed.

The design team has identified this issue and is addressing it at the moment by 
simplifying the layout of the database tables to speed up processing.  This 
process requires that all existing data in the database be restructured to the 
new table layout.  As this is a very large and long running transaction, packet 
processing is effectively on hold for the rest of the day.  It should begin to 
clear up in a few hours as the backlog of packets is processed through."

___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Disappearing Thread

[Starlight Solar Power Systems]

Sorry…to fast on reply…I have received the messages I sent.

Larry Crutcher






On May 11, 2018, at 10:35 AM, Starlight Solar Power Systems 
 wrote:

I have sent 4 replies and none are showing.

Larry

On May 11, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Mark Frye  wrote:

Could have sworn there was a thread here about melted batteries, but it not 
showing in my email client anymore.


___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org


___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Disappearing Thread

[Starlight Solar Power Systems]

I have sent 4 replies and none are showing.

Larry

On May 11, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Mark Frye  wrote:

Could have sworn there was a thread here about melted batteries, but it not 
showing in my email client anymore.


___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fullriver Battery meltdown

[Starlight Solar Power Systems]

Here is a photo of before I removed the deformed battery. The Magnum temp 
sensor was on one battery and the PV controller sensor on the other. I do not 
believe anything external caused this failure. Perhaps a shorted cell allowed 
the charger to pass high current continuously.


Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems




On May 10, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Steve Higgins  wrote:

Larry, 

Do you have any pic's of them installed? 

That would help a lot in getting an idea of how/why these failed. 

I do have two questions for you... 

Were there tie down straps over the tops of the batteries? 

Where was the temp sensor? 




   
  
  
  
  
  
  
Steve Higgins ⋅ Technical Services Manager
t +1.902.597.4020  m +1.206.790.5840
f +1.902.597.8447  e st...@surrette.com 
  
   
<>   <> 
  <> 
 <> 
  

CONFIDENTIALITY: The information transmitted herein is intended only for the 
addressee and may contain confidential, proprietary and/or privileged material. 
Any unauthorized review, distribution or other use of or the taking of any 
action in reliance upon this information is prohibited. If you receive this 
email in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy this message 
and all copies.

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 1:42 PM, Starlight Solar Power Systems 
> wrote:
Wrenches, 

Attached is a photo of my first thermal runaway event after 17 years and 
thousands of battery systems installed. These were in an RV. I checked every 
charge source and all are within specified charging parameters. No cause found. 
The owner is a single elderly lady that uses very little power in her RV and 
spend most of the time on shore power. She reported that the batteries were 
dead when she unplugged from shore power. This was i the 23rd month after 
installation. 

After I reported this to my Fullriver distributor, they told me that another 
set of DC400-6 had melted down just 1 month earlier and that they had fused 
together just like these. That is extreme heat. It is too peculiar to know of 
two similar events. This meltdown happened within the 2 year warranty period 
but my customer could not come back to us for another 3 months beyond the 
warranty period. Fullriver would not allow anything towards replacement do to 
the reporting date being grater than 24 months.

I would like to know has anyone else had a similar failure with Rolls or 
Fullriver AGM batteries, specifically L16 size.

Thank you,

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems





___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 


Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 


List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html 


List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm 

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org 



___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org


___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update 

[RE-wrenches] Disappearing Thread

[Mark Frye]

Could have sworn there was a thread here about melted batteries, but it 
not showing in my email client anymore.


___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fullriver Battery meltdown

[Starlight Solar Power Systems]

I agree….that is something we have never done. These batteries are same date 
and both new when installed.

Larry



On May 10, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Rick Brown  
wrote:

I’m inclined to agree with Maverick. Mixing old and new batteries is not 
recommended. Differing internal resistance coupled with potentially extreme 
temps can lead to thermal runaway. 

rick brown
SolShine Energy Alternatives, LLC
Electrical & Solar Contracting Services
www.SolShineEnergyAlternatives.com 
Check, Virginia 24072
540.808.9502 

VA Class A Contractor Lic# 2705147660
VA Master Electrician Lic# 2710062762
VA Alternative Energy Systems Installer  
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional 110112-21

On May 10, 2018, at 6:02 PM, "maver...@mavericksolar.com 
" > wrote:

> Looks like a mix of old and new Batteries in a cabinet too small to drain 
> excessive heat gain. Was the cabinet shaded? Or exposed to direct sun? Temp 
> sensor on charging source?
> What size interconnect cables were used? 
> Was it a bus system? 
> Absorb with End Amps was turned on?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 

___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fullriver Battery meltdown

[Starlight Solar Power Systems]

Both were new, same date batteries. 
Currents are so low there is no heat problem. 
Even Charging at 70 Amps does not produce much heat even after a few hours.
The batteries did expand into the containing box. Note that with many hundreds 
of similar installations, this is the only one that had this heat event.
Cables were 2/0 between and to the bus bar. No terminal heating took place.
Absorb ends after time only. Also, the alternator charges while driving at 13.9 
volts. Neither is a problem since current will drop to about 0.7 after 
saturation.


Thank you,

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems






On May 10, 2018, at 3:02 PM, maver...@mavericksolar.com wrote:

Looks like a mix of old and new Batteries in a cabinet too small to drain 
excessive heat gain. Was the cabinet shaded? Or exposed to direct sun? Temp 
sensor on charging source?
What size interconnect cables were used? 
Was it a bus system? 
Absorb with End Amps was turned on?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2018, at 4:41 PM, Michael Morningstar > wrote:

> 
> One year old. Well looked after system. 
> On May 10, 2018, at 1:42 PM, Starlight Solar Power Systems 
> > wrote:
> 
>> Wrenches, 
>> 
>> Attached is a photo of my first thermal runaway event after 17 years and 
>> thousands of battery systems installed. These were in an RV. I checked every 
>> charge source and all are within specified charging parameters. No cause 
>> found. The owner is a single elderly lady that uses very little power in her 
>> RV and spend most of the time on shore power. She reported that the 
>> batteries were dead when she unplugged from shore power. This was i the 23rd 
>> month after installation. 
>> 
>> After I reported this to my Fullriver distributor, they told me that another 
>> set of DC400-6 had melted down just 1 month earlier and that they had fused 
>> together just like these. That is extreme heat. It is too peculiar to know 
>> of two similar events. This meltdown happened within the 2 year warranty 
>> period but my customer could not come back to us for another 3 months beyond 
>> the warranty period. Fullriver would not allow anything towards replacement 
>> do to the reporting date being grater than 24 months.
>> 
>> I would like to know has anyone else had a similar failure with Rolls or 
>> Fullriver AGM batteries, specifically L16 size.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Larry Crutcher
>> Starlight Solar Power Systems
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>> 
>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
>> 
>> 
>> Change listserver email address & settings:
>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 
>> 
>> 
>> List-Archive: 
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html 
>> 
>> 
>> List rules & etiquette:
>> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm 
>> 
>> Check out or update participant bios:
>> www.members.re-wrenches.org 
>> 
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
> 
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
> 
> 
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 
> 
> 
> List-Archive: 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html 
> 
> 
> List rules & etiquette:
> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm 
> 
> Check out or update participant bios:
> www.members.re-wrenches.org 
> 
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org


___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:

[RE-wrenches] SMA Sunny Boy Display Window

[Wayne Irwin]

We have installed quite a few SB's over the years and are seeing a growing 
number of fogged over display lenses.

We've tried headlight polish with limited success.

Other than purchasing a new lid from SMA does anyone have another solution to 
restoring or replacing the window?


Wayne Irwin,
President
License #CVC56695
State Licensed Solar Contractor
Pure Energy Solar International Inc.
wa...@pureenergysolar.com
http://PureEnergySolar.com
http://SolarChargingStation.net
352 377-6527 Office
352 336-3299 Fax
352 316-1637 Cell

The Sun Is Always Shining!


The content of this message is Pure Energy Solar Confidential. If you are not 
the intended recipient and have received this message in error, any use or 
distribution is prohibited. Please notify me immediately by reply e-mail and 
delete this message from your computer system. Thank you.
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List-Archive: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html

List rules & etiquette:
www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
www.members.re-wrenches.org