Re: [RE-wrenches] Trackers

[Andrew Truitt]

These guys are new but I've heard good things:
http://www.sulasindustries.com/


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On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 9:38 PM Sindelar Solar 
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> No, I'm with you on this.Given the the greatest boost (~+/- 30%) of daily
> tracking is during the summer and most stand-alone applications are
> winter-peak (where tracking adds at best 10-15%), seasonal water pumping is
> about the only time when small-scale tracking is justified over simply
> adding array. Any pumping where the source is slow enough that the length
> of the day becomes an important factor, like drip irrigation or a very low
> yield well or spring, is worth looking into. But that's about it in my
> experience.
>
> Allan
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> On 9/5/2018 5:53 PM, solar1onl...@charter.net wrote:
>
> Chris,
> I thought since solar PV prices have come down (understatement), is it not
> more cost effective to buy more modules than a tracker? Are there scenarios
> that the above would not ring true? (As I remember, off grid water pumping
> for livestock ponds may still be an exception as also, limited space.)
> Please advise.
> Thanks,
> Bill Loesch
> Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar
> 314 631 1094
>
> 
> From: ch...@oasismontana.com
> Sent: Wednesday September 5 2018 3:45:25PM
>
> Dear people:
>
> What trackers are y’all using nowadays?  I have a customer (with a great
> site) who’s insisting on a pair.  We’ve sold Zomeworks and Array
> Technologies in the past, but I know there are more offerings now.
>
> Thanks for the input!
>
> Chris Daum
>
> Oasis Montana Inc.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Trackers

[Sindelar Solar]

Bill,

No, I'm with you on this.Given the the greatest boost (~+/- 30%) of 
daily tracking is during the summer and most stand-alone applications 
are winter-peak (where tracking adds at best 10-15%), seasonal water 
pumping is about the only time when small-scale tracking is justified 
over simply adding array. Any pumping where the source is slow enough 
that the length of the day becomes an important factor, like drip 
irrigation or a very low yield well or spring, is worth looking into. 
But that's about it in my experience.


Allan

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On 9/5/2018 5:53 PM, solar1onl...@charter.net wrote:

Chris,
I thought since solar PV prices have come down (understatement), is it 
not more cost effective to buy more modules than a tracker? Are there 
scenarios that the above would not ring true? (As I remember, off grid 
water pumping for livestock ponds may still be an exception as also, 
limited space.) Please advise.

Thanks,
Bill Loesch
Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar
314 631 1094



From: ch...@oasismontana.com
Sent: Wednesday September 5 2018 3:45:25PM

Dear people:

What trackers are y’all using nowadays?I have a customer (with a great 
site) who’s insisting on a pair.We’ve sold Zomeworks and Array 
Technologies in the past, but I know there are more offerings now.


Thanks for the input!

Chris Daum

Oasis Montana Inc.

406-777-4309 or 4321

406-777-4309 fax

www.oasismontana.com 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] mod waveform LED dimmer

[jay]

HI Ray,

Yea thats a good assumption based on CFL’s.

But LED are different. 

What happens is that the LEDs will dim a small amount and then ( there are 4 
LED lights in a light fixture) one will turn off for a short while ( few 
seconds) then it’ll come back on and another will go off and on and on it goes.

I’ve see this on other systems from a generator with poor quality.

Its pretty odd and totally random.

The options for this customer are going back to incandescent, or maybe there is 
a  LED/Dimmer combo out there that works. And as to trying out others, yea 
thought of that but they are expensive and could be a big rabbit hole.  

thanks
jay







> On Sep 5, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Ray  wrote:
> 
> Sorry I can't help with specific models, but my guess is that most dimmers 
> will work.  They will probably buzz annoyingly due to the mod sine, and 
> probably die a relatively earlier death from the extra heat.  That being said 
> they could last several years, and reduce total load.  Let us know what you 
> find out.  I'd probably just grab a couple from the local supply and play 
> with them.  I do quite a bit of Mad scientist work here.  
> As the ancients taught us:  "Better to let the smoke out in private, than be 
> embarrassed a thousand fold in the field".
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
> 303 505-8760
> On 9/5/18 3:20 PM, jay wrote:
>> HI All,
>> 
>> I’m asking the group for a very obscure piece of information.
>> 
>> I have someone with an very old Trace 2012 mod wave form inverter and wants 
>> to use their new LED bulbs with a dimmer
>> 
>> Does anyone know of any LED/dimmer combos that will work?
>> 
>> thanks in advance
>> 
>> jay
>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Trackers

[Glenn Burt]

There are a lot of All Earth trackers going up in these parts. 
Of course they are made just North of here, so that may be part of it.

Dual axis active tracker – seem to be well made and pretty reliable.

https://www.allearthrenewables.com/

 

-Glenn

 

From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of 
ch...@oasismontana.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 4:41 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches' 
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Trackers

 

Dear people:

 

What trackers are y’all using nowadays?  I have a customer (with a great site) 
who’s insisting on a pair.  We’ve sold Zomeworks and Array Technologies in the 
past, but I know there are more offerings now.

 

Thanks for the input!

 

Chris Daum

Oasis Montana Inc.

406-777-4309 or 4321

406-777-4309 fax

  www.oasismontana.com 

 

 

 

 

  

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Trackers

[Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar]

Bill, 

If you lived offgrid and had to run a heatpump for cooling in
the desert, you would see that either virtual tracking ar a tracker would
give you the long hours of solar power to minimize battery use. 
Dave
Angelini Offgrid Solar
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don't"
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On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 18:53:54 -0500,
solar1onl...@charter.net wrote:  Chris, I thought since solar PV prices
have come down (understatement), is it not more cost effective to buy more
modules than a tracker? Are there scenarios that the above would not ring
true? (As I remember, off grid water pumping for livestock ponds may still
be an exception as also, limited space.) Please advise. Thanks, Bill Loesch
Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar 314 631 1094


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To: "RE-wrenches"
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday September 5
2018 3:45:25PM
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Trackers

Dear people: 

What
trackers are y'all using nowadays? I have a customer (with a great site)
who's insisting on a pair. We've sold Zomeworks and Array Technologies in
the past, but I know there are more offerings now. 

Thanks for the input!


Chris Daum 

Oasis Montana Inc. 

406-777-4309 or 4321 

406-777-4309 fax


www.oasismontana.com [3]   

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Trackers

[Howard Arey]

1.  Limited space
2.  Utility policy cap on DC capacity installed
3.  Early adopters who value efficiency

 

I have found dual-axis trackers to be more cost effective than the conventional 
wisdom grants.

 

We use Sun Action Trackers from San Antonio. Examples at my website.

 

 

Howard “Scot” Arey

254-300-1228

  scot.a...@solarcentex.com

 



 

 

 

From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of 
solar1onl...@charter.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 6:54 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches' 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trackers

 

Chris,

I thought since solar PV prices have come down (understatement), is it not more 
cost effective to buy more modules than a tracker? Are there scenarios that the 
above would not ring true? (As I remember, off grid water pumping for livestock 
ponds may still be an exception as also, limited space.) Please advise.

Thanks,

Bill Loesch

Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar

314 631 1094

 

-

From: ch...@oasismontana.com  
To: "RE-wrenches"
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday September 5 2018 3:45:25PM
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Trackers




Dear people:

 

What trackers are y’all using nowadays?  I have a customer (with a great site) 
who’s insisting on a pair.  We’ve sold Zomeworks and Array Technologies in the 
past, but I know there are more offerings now.

 

Thanks for the input!

 

Chris Daum

Oasis Montana Inc.

406-777-4309 or 4321

406-777-4309 fax

  www.oasismontana.com 

 

 

 

 

  

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Re: [RE-wrenches] mod waveform LED dimmer

[b...@midnitesolar.com]

If a regular dimmer doesn't work, which because of the sharp edges I 
would not expect to work very well,


you could try a variac.

boB


On 9/5/2018 5:38 PM, Bruce Geddes wrote:

I would doubt that dimmers will work as they look for leading or trailing edges 
to power switch.  With Mod square waves there is just the sudden rise to full 
voltage so nothing to obtain a switching point.  It is for this reason some 
cordless device chargers struggle to charge.
Cheers,
Bruce Geddes
PowerOn


-Original Message-
From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of jay
Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2018 9:21 a.m.
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] mod waveform LED dimmer

HI All,

I’m asking the group for a very obscure piece of information.

I have someone with an very old Trace 2012 mod wave form inverter and wants to 
use their new LED bulbs with a dimmer

Does anyone know of any LED/dimmer combos that will work?

thanks in advance

jay

peltz power


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Re: [RE-wrenches] mod waveform LED dimmer

[Bruce Geddes]

I would doubt that dimmers will work as they look for leading or trailing edges 
to power switch.  With Mod square waves there is just the sudden rise to full 
voltage so nothing to obtain a switching point.  It is for this reason some 
cordless device chargers struggle to charge.
Cheers,
Bruce Geddes
PowerOn


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Of jay
Sent: Thursday, 6 September 2018 9:21 a.m.
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] mod waveform LED dimmer

HI All,

I’m asking the group for a very obscure piece of information.

I have someone with an very old Trace 2012 mod wave form inverter and wants to 
use their new LED bulbs with a dimmer

Does anyone know of any LED/dimmer combos that will work?

thanks in advance

jay

peltz power


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Trackers

[solar1online]

Chris,I thought since solar PV prices have come down (understatement),
is it not more cost effective to buy more modules than a tracker? Are
there scenarios that the above would not ring true? (As I remember,
off grid water pumping for livestock ponds may still be an exception
as also, limited space.) Please advise.
Thanks,Bill LoeschSolar 1 - Saint Louis Solar
314 631 1094

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Sent: Wednesday September 5 2018 3:45:25PM
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Trackers

*

Dear people: 

What trackers are y’all using nowadays? I have a customer (with a
great site) who’s insisting on a pair. We’ve sold Zomeworks and
Array Technologies in the past, but I know there are more offerings
now. 

Thanks for the input! 

Chris Daum 

Oasis Montana Inc. 

406-777-4309 or 4321 

406-777-4309 fax 

www.oasismontana.com [1]   

  

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Re: [RE-wrenches] mod waveform LED dimmer

[Ray]

Sorry I can't help with specific models, but my guess is that most 
dimmers will work.  They will probably buzz annoyingly due to the mod 
sine, and probably die a relatively earlier death from the extra heat.  
That being said they could last several years, and reduce total load.  
Let us know what you find out.  I'd probably just grab a couple from the 
local supply and play with them.  I do quite a bit of Mad scientist work 
here.


As the ancients taught us: /"Better to let the smoke out in private, 
than be embarrassed a thousand fold in the field"./


Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 9/5/18 3:20 PM, jay wrote:

HI All,

I’m asking the group for a very obscure piece of information.

I have someone with an very old Trace 2012 mod wave form inverter and wants to 
use their new LED bulbs with a dimmer

Does anyone know of any LED/dimmer combos that will work?

thanks in advance

jay

peltz power


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[RE-wrenches] mod waveform LED dimmer

[jay]

HI All,

I’m asking the group for a very obscure piece of information.

I have someone with an very old Trace 2012 mod wave form inverter and wants to 
use their new LED bulbs with a dimmer

Does anyone know of any LED/dimmer combos that will work?

thanks in advance

jay

peltz power


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Trackers

[Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar]

I have been waiting for a small 6" pole tracker like the AZ125 that
array tek made. I could get 2KW on it. They only make the 8" (too much
work) and HZLA that I use quite a bit. --Dave 

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:41:19
-0600,  wrote:

Dear people: 

What trackers are y'all using nowadays?
I have a customer (with a great site) who's insisting on a pair. We've sold
Zomeworks and Array Technologies in the past, but I know there are more
offerings now. 

Thanks for the input! 

Chris Daum 

Oasis Montana Inc.


406-777-4309 or 4321 

406-777-4309 fax 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Trackers

[Jerry Shafer]

Chris/Wrenches
Been happy with Zoomworks, array tech has been an issues with replacement
parts
Jerry

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018, 1:45 PM  wrote:

> Dear people:
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> What trackers are y’all using nowadays?  I have a customer (with a great
> site) who’s insisting on a pair.  We’ve sold Zomeworks and Array
> Technologies in the past, but I know there are more offerings now.
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> Chris Daum
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[RE-wrenches] Trackers

[chris]

Dear people:
 
What trackers are y’all using nowadays?  I have a customer (with a great site) 
who’s insisting on a pair.  We’ve sold Zomeworks and Array Technologies in the 
past, but I know there are more offerings now.
 
Thanks for the input!
 
Chris Daum
Oasis Montana Inc.
406-777-4309 or 4321
406-777-4309 fax
  www.oasismontana.com 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [RE-wrenches] JLM Phazr

[MiJo Nels]

They were located right in our backyard (Sacramento) so we were very
excited to have something new to abuse. From all the articles I've read,
they are restructuring pending a cash infusion (investors) . . It seemed
like a decent idea, heck we proved Micro inverters and power optimizers
could stand the abuse of a roof top install, why not LFP? . . JLM appears
to be fading fast.

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 12:11 PM Rebekah Hren 
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> Hi Wrenches,
> Does anyone know if JLM
> 
> is still around/ products available?
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> https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/jlm-energy-lays-off-workforce-to-seek-funding
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> It sounds like not really, I wasn't at all convinced batteries on the roof
> were a good idea, but just curious if anyone has any insight, or used their
> products?
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> Thanks!
> Rebekah
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