date:20190308

Re: [RE-wrenches] Crimper for Enphase field wireable connectors

2019-03-08 Thread Glenn Burt

Nick,

I recall an extensive discussion here regarding terminals to be used for
battery terminals and the terminal manufacturer's requirement to use a
specific crimper with their components to maintain their listing.

 

It was the consensus here that the manufacturer could not exclude other
listed tools to make the connections, and retain the listing as it was
built.

 

Please explain to me how what you are telling us is different?

 

Regards,

Glen Burt

 

From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of
Nick Soleil
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2019 11:29 AM
To: RE-wrenches 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Crimper for Enphase field wireable connectors

 

Hi Jason,

 

The Field Wireable Connectors Installation Guide specified the following
crimping tools for use with the connectors: Multi-Contact PV-CZM-18100,
-19100, or -22100.  That tool is required for meeting our reliability
requirements and compliance requirements.

 

The document can be found here:

https://enphase.com/sites/default/files/downloads/support/Q-Field-Wireable-C
onnectors-QIG-EN-US.pdf

Cordially,

Nick Soleil

Enphase Energy Senior Product Manager, Envoy and Accessories

(707) 763-4784 x7267  // office

(707) 321-2937  // cell

  Powering What's
NextT | The Enphase Energy Management System

NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer #03262011-300

California C10 Licensed Electrician #986315

 

  _  

From: RE-wrenches mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> > on behalf of Jason
Szumlanski mailto:ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> >
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 3:03 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Crimper for Enphase field wireable connectors 

 

I have the Rennsteig now. I wasn't sure if it is ok to use since it's not
the exact specified model in the Enphase instructions. There are all kinds
of knock offs for under $50 and I have found a couple that seem to work
extremely well, but again I'm not sure if it violates the listing to do so.


Jason Szumlanski
Principal Solar Designer
Florida Solar Design Group

 

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 9:16 PM Jay mailto:jay.pe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Jason

Talk to Bryan at PV cables 

707-923-3000

He's got the Rennsteig tool for under $200 and the MFG tool for just under
$300

Jay

Peltz power. 

> On Mar 6, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Jason Szumlanski
mailto:ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> > wrote:
> 
> Is there a reasonably priced alternative to the Multi-Contact PV-CZM-##100
models? These are the only ones specified in the quick install guide.
Obviously I don't want to violate the listing, but I also don't want to
spend $500 for a tool for each truck. 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Crimper for Enphase field wireable connectors

2019-03-08 Thread Ray

I think the bigger question here is this:  Has anyone had connection 
failures of any sort using other crimpers?  i use an Amphenol tool and 
crimps, and they have always worked fine with a variety of modules.  I 
can see Enphase requiring the expensive tool, because it covers their 
liability bacon, and the cost isn't coming out of their pocket. The only 
failed connector I came across was a horrible cheap chinese copy of an 
MC connector on a little E bay RV system I trouble shooted.  They used 
what looked like  heavy tin foil in the connector, I could just bend it 
around with my fingers.  It was immediately obvious it was inferior, and 
was non UL. But please has anyone actually had an issue in the thousands 
of connections all of us Wrenches have made over the past 15 years?

Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 3/8/19 10:25 AM, Jason Szumlanski wrote:

Nick,

This tool is ridiculously expensive. Enphase should really look into 
alternatives. If you noticed, Wrenches were recommending other brands 
and I know many installers use cheap MC4 crimpers pickup up on Amazon. 
In fact, I have never known another installer near me using an MC 
brand tool since the early days when that is all that really existed. 
I wouldn't call it a prohibitively expense, but when one tool makes up 
over 25% of a truck's core tool box cost, something is wrong. Maybe 
I'm missing something and these other tools use dies that are 
acceptable, but it sounds like we are being forced into a single 
source/brand tool.

Jason Szumlanski

*

*

On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:32 AM Nick Soleil > wrote:

Hi Jason,

The Field Wireable Connectors Installation Guide specified the
following crimping tools for use with the
connectors: Multi-Contact PV-CZM-18100, -19100, or -22100.  That
tool is required for meeting our reliability requirements and
compliance requirements.

The document can be found here:

https://enphase.com/sites/default/files/downloads/support/Q-Field-Wireable-Connectors-QIG-EN-US.pdf

Cordially,

Nick Soleil

Enphase EnergySenior Product Manager, Envoy and Accessories

(707) 763-4784 x7267  // office

(707) 321-2937  // cell

*Powering What’s Next*™/ | /The Enphase Energy Management System

NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer #03262011-300

California C10 Licensed Electrician #986315

*From:* RE-wrenches mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>> on behalf of
Jason Szumlanski mailto:ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com>>
*Sent:* Thursday, March 7, 2019 3:03 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Crimper for Enphase field wireable
connectors
I have the Rennsteig now. I wasn't sure if it is ok to use since
it's not the exact specified model in the Enphase instructions.
There are all kinds of knock offs for under $50 and I have found a
couple that seem to work extremely well, but again I'm not sure if
it violates the listing to do so.

Jason Szumlanski
Principal Solar Designer
Florida Solar Design Group

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 9:16 PM Jay mailto:jay.pe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Jason

Talk to Bryan at PV cables

707-923-3000

He’s got the Rennsteig tool for under $200 and the MFG tool
for just under $300

Jay

Peltz power.

> On Mar 6, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Jason Szumlanski
mailto:ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com>> wrote:
>
> Is there a reasonably priced alternative to the
Multi-Contact PV-CZM-##100 models? These are the only ones
specified in the quick install guide. Obviously I don't want
to violate the listing, but I also don't want to spend $500
for a tool for each truck.
>
> Jason Szumlanski
> Principal Solar Designer
> Florida Solar Design Group
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Crimper for Enphase field wireable connectors

2019-03-08 Thread Jason Szumlanski

Nick,

This tool is ridiculously expensive. Enphase should really look into
alternatives. If you noticed, Wrenches were recommending other brands and I
know many installers use cheap MC4 crimpers pickup up on Amazon. In fact, I
have never known another installer near me using an MC brand tool since the
early days when that is all that really existed. I wouldn't call it a
prohibitively expense, but when one tool makes up over 25% of a truck's
core tool box cost, something is wrong. Maybe I'm missing something and
these other tools use dies that are acceptable, but it sounds like we are
being forced into a single source/brand tool.

Jason Szumlanski



On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:32 AM Nick Soleil 
wrote:

> Hi Jason,
>
>
> The Field Wireable Connectors Installation Guide specified the following
> crimping tools for use with the connectors: Multi-Contact PV-CZM-18100,
> -19100, or -22100.  That tool is required for meeting our reliability
> requirements and compliance requirements.
>
>
> The document can be found here:
>
>
> https://enphase.com/sites/default/files/downloads/support/Q-Field-Wireable-Connectors-QIG-EN-US.pdf
>
> Cordially,
>
> Nick Soleil
>
> Enphase Energy Senior Product Manager, Envoy and Accessories
>
> (707) 763-4784 x7267  // office
>
> (707) 321-2937  // cell
>
> *Powering What’s Next*™* | *The Enphase Energy Management System
> 
>
> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer #03262011-300
>
> California C10 Licensed Electrician #986315
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* RE-wrenches  on behalf
> of Jason Szumlanski 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 7, 2019 3:03 AM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Crimper for Enphase field wireable connectors
>
> I have the Rennsteig now. I wasn't sure if it is ok to use since it's not
> the exact specified model in the Enphase instructions. There are all kinds
> of knock offs for under $50 and I have found a couple that seem to work
> extremely well, but again I'm not sure if it violates the listing to do
> so.
>
> Jason Szumlanski
> Principal Solar Designer
> Florida Solar Design Group
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 9:16 PM Jay  wrote:
>
> Hi Jason
>
> Talk to Bryan at PV cables
>
> 707-923-3000
>
> He’s got the Rennsteig tool for under $200 and the MFG tool for just under
> $300
>
> Jay
>
> Peltz power.
>
> > On Mar 6, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Jason Szumlanski <
> ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is there a reasonably priced alternative to the Multi-Contact
> PV-CZM-##100 models? These are the only ones specified in the quick install
> guide. Obviously I don't want to violate the listing, but I also don't want
> to spend $500 for a tool for each truck.
> >
> > Jason Szumlanski
> > Principal Solar Designer
> > Florida Solar Design Group
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Crimper for Enphase field wireable connectors

2019-03-08 Thread Nick Soleil

Hi Jason,


The Field Wireable Connectors Installation Guide specified the following 
crimping tools for use with the connectors: Multi-Contact PV-CZM-18100, -19100, 
or -22100.  That tool is required for meeting our reliability requirements and 
compliance requirements.


The document can be found here:

https://enphase.com/sites/default/files/downloads/support/Q-Field-Wireable-Connectors-QIG-EN-US.pdf


Cordially,

Nick Soleil

Enphase Energy Senior Product Manager, Envoy and Accessories

(707) 763-4784 x7267  // office

(707) 321-2937  // cell

Powering What’s Next™ | The Enphase Energy Management 
System

NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer #03262011-300

California C10 Licensed Electrician #986315



From: RE-wrenches  on behalf of 
Jason Szumlanski 
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 3:03 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Crimper for Enphase field wireable connectors

I have the Rennsteig now. I wasn't sure if it is ok to use since it's not the 
exact specified model in the Enphase instructions. There are all kinds of knock 
offs for under $50 and I have found a couple that seem to work extremely well, 
but again I'm not sure if it violates the listing to do so.

Jason Szumlanski
Principal Solar Designer
Florida Solar Design Group

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 9:16 PM Jay 
mailto:jay.pe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Jason

Talk to Bryan at PV cables

707-923-3000

He’s got the Rennsteig tool for under $200 and the MFG tool for just under $300

Jay

Peltz power.

> On Mar 6, 2019, at 2:20 PM, Jason Szumlanski 
> mailto:ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com>> 
> wrote:
>
> Is there a reasonably priced alternative to the Multi-Contact PV-CZM-##100 
> models? These are the only ones specified in the quick install guide. 
> Obviously I don't want to violate the listing, but I also don't want to spend 
> $500 for a tool for each truck.
>
> Jason Szumlanski
> Principal Solar Designer
> Florida Solar Design Group
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