date:20190727

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k (Dana)

2019-07-27 Thread David Palumbo

I have a ECOGEN that ran well for a couple of years as originally setup. Then 
it began having problems with management of the extra oil reservoir (the engine 
would become flooded with oil and it would belch smoke). I gave up trying to 
repair that out of frustration and have been running it for the past two years 
with just the engine oil. I eliminated the extra oil res and it has not caused 
any problems since. I change the oil at 100 hours now rather than the 500 hour 
interval the original setup called for.

Dave Palumbo
Hyde Park, VT

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From: Maverick Brown
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 10:57 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k (Dana)

Mine died from brushes , I guess catching fire, and that was precipitated by an 
oil leak on the upper oil hose. The crimp-on fitting was allowing oil to bypass 
the clamp, spray on the engine and generator head. There is vent hole right on 
the top of generator head in a perfect place below the oil tube/air intake to 
breath in the oil and send it through the generator head. Just lovely. 

If yours is still working, I’ll send you a photo and a note to make a 
correction to the oil line. 
Thank you,

Maverick


On Jul 27, 2019, at 5:08 PM, Chris Mason  wrote:
When you say it died, what was the problem?

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 5:43 PM Jason Jackson  
wrote:
Same experience here in Canada. We installed two Ecogens last year, against our 
better judgement.  Both were dead in under 12 months. One was rebuilt under 
warranty and promptly died again, no coverage in that case. Another was refused 
warranty as it has been used (sparingly) as prime power during construction, 
prior to being connected to the inverter system. No warranty if it's not 
connected to an inverter system on day 1! That model was promptly pulled from 
the market according to our local ASC, and has been replaced with something 
similar apparently. 



Jason Jackson, Energy Systems Designer
Ph: 888 604 3128 xt. 101 
www.hakaienergy.ca

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Generwrecked strikes again! After 3 fires in the controllers & 2 more engine 
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k

Wrenches

Any guidance on getting warranty claim approved when their denial reason is the 
generic “unsafe” installation? There isn’t anything unsafe about the 1.5 year 
install that I can see. The ECOGEN is connected to an Outback Radian. 

Generator has 950 hours on it before the brushes melted down from being exposed 
to engine oil. 

Thank you,

Maverick


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HI All,

I’m wondering if there is any programs/apps that do inter

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k (Dana)

2019-07-27 Thread Maverick Brown

Mine died from brushes , I guess catching fire, and that was precipitated by an 
oil leak on the upper oil hose. The crimp-on fitting was allowing oil to bypass 
the clamp, spray on the engine and generator head. There is vent hole right on 
the top of generator head in a perfect place below the oil tube/air intake to 
breath in the oil and send it through the generator head. Just lovely. 

If yours is still working, I’ll send you a photo and a note to make a 
correction to the oil line. 

Thank you,

Maverick


> On Jul 27, 2019, at 5:08 PM, Chris Mason  wrote:
> 
> When you say it died, what was the problem?
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 5:43 PM Jason Jackson 
>>  wrote:
>> Same experience here in Canada. We installed two Ecogens last year, against 
>> our better judgement.  Both were dead in under 12 months. One was rebuilt 
>> under warranty and promptly died again, no coverage in that case. Another 
>> was refused warranty as it has been used (sparingly) as prime power during 
>> construction, prior to being connected to the inverter system. No warranty 
>> if it's not connected to an inverter system on day 1! That model was 
>> promptly pulled from the market according to our local ASC, and has been 
>> replaced with something similar apparently. 
>> 
>>  
>> Jason Jackson, Energy Systems Designer
>> Ph: 888 604 3128 xt. 101 
>> www.hakaienergy.ca
>> 
>> 
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>>> Bcc: 
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:42:35 -0600
>>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k
>>> Generwrecked strikes again! After 3 fires in the controllers & 2 more 
>>> engine meltdowns due to oil loss I would not touch a wreck.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc. 
>>> C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com
>>> Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374
>>> NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.com
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>>> -Original Message-
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>>> Maverick Brown
>>> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 11:41 AM
>>> To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k
>>> 
>>> Wrenches
>>> 
>>> Any guidance on getting warranty claim approved when their denial reason is 
>>> the generic “unsafe” installation? There isn’t anything unsafe about the 
>>> 1.5 year install that I can see. The ECOGEN is connected to an Outback 
>>> Radian. 
>>> 
>>> Generator has 950 hours on it before the brushes melted down from being 
>>> exposed to engine oil. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Maverick
>>> 
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>>> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 14:59:06 -0700
>>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] solar inter row shading
>>> HI All,
>>> 
>>> I’m wondering if there is any programs/apps that do inter row shading?
>>> I can’t find any.
>>> 
>>> RBI used to have one, it was really slick.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> jay
>>> 
>>> peltz power
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k (Dana)

2019-07-27 Thread Chris Mason

When you say it died, what was the problem?

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 5:43 PM Jason Jackson <
ja...@hakaienergysolutions.com> wrote:

> Same experience here in Canada. We installed two Ecogens last year,
> against our better judgement.  Both were dead in under 12 months. One was
> rebuilt under warranty and promptly died again, no coverage in that case.
> Another was refused warranty as it has been used (sparingly) as prime power
> during construction, prior to being connected to the inverter system. No
> warranty if it's not connected to an inverter system on day 1! That model
> was promptly pulled from the market according to our local ASC, and has
> been replaced with something similar apparently.
>
> [image: hakaienergysolutions.com]
> 
> Jason Jackson, Energy Systems Designer
> Ph: 888 604 3128 xt. 101
> www.hakaienergy.ca
> 
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 2:07 PM 
> wrote:
>
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>>1. Re: Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k (Dana)
>>2. solar inter row shading (jay)
>>3. Re: solar inter row shading (Chris Mason)
>>4. Re: solar inter row shading (Ray)
>>5. Re: solar inter row shading (William Miller)
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Dana 
>> To: "'RE-wrenches'" 
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:42:35 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k
>> Generwrecked strikes again! After 3 fires in the controllers & 2 more
>> engine meltdowns due to oil loss I would not touch a wreck.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.
>> C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com
>> Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374
>> NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.com
>> "Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988"
>>  Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf
>> Of Maverick Brown
>> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 11:41 AM
>> To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k
>>
>> Wrenches
>>
>> Any guidance on getting warranty claim approved when their denial reason
>> is the generic “unsafe” installation? There isn’t anything unsafe about the
>> 1.5 year install that I can see. The ECOGEN is connected to an Outback
>> Radian.
>>
>> Generator has 950 hours on it before the brushes melted down from being
>> exposed to engine oil.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Maverick
>>
>>
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>> From: jay 
>> To: RE-wrenches 
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 14:59:06 -0700
>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] solar inter row shading
>> HI All,
>>
>> I’m wondering if there is any programs/apps that do inter row shading?
>> I can’t find any.
>>
>> RBI used to have one, it was really slick.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> jay
>>
>> peltz power
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Chris Mason 
>> To: RE-wrenches 
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 20:03:23 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solar inter row shading
>> Sketchup with Skelion
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 6:41 PM jay  wrote:
>>
>>> HI All,
>>>
>>> I’m wondering if there is any programs/apps that do inter row shading?
>>> I can’t find any.
>>>
>>> RBI used to have one, it was really slick.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> jay
>>>
>>> peltz power
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k (Dana)

2019-07-27 Thread Jason Jackson

Same experience here in Canada. We installed two Ecogens last year, against
our better judgement.  Both were dead in under 12 months. One was rebuilt
under warranty and promptly died again, no coverage in that case. Another
was refused warranty as it has been used (sparingly) as prime power during
construction, prior to being connected to the inverter system. No warranty
if it's not connected to an inverter system on day 1! That model was
promptly pulled from the market according to our local ASC, and has been
replaced with something similar apparently.

[image: hakaienergysolutions.com]

Jason Jackson, Energy Systems Designer
Ph: 888 604 3128 xt. 101
www.hakaienergy.ca



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>1. Re: Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k (Dana)
>2. solar inter row shading (jay)
>3. Re: solar inter row shading (Chris Mason)
>4. Re: solar inter row shading (Ray)
>5. Re: solar inter row shading (William Miller)
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Dana 
> To: "'RE-wrenches'" 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 15:42:35 -0600
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k
> Generwrecked strikes again! After 3 fires in the controllers & 2 more
> engine meltdowns due to oil loss I would not touch a wreck.
>
>
>
> Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.
> C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com
> Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374
> NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.com
> "Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988"
>  Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf
> Of Maverick Brown
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 11:41 AM
> To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Generac Warranty claim ECOGEN 15k
>
> Wrenches
>
> Any guidance on getting warranty claim approved when their denial reason
> is the generic “unsafe” installation? There isn’t anything unsafe about the
> 1.5 year install that I can see. The ECOGEN is connected to an Outback
> Radian.
>
> Generator has 950 hours on it before the brushes melted down from being
> exposed to engine oil.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Maverick
>
>
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: jay 
> To: RE-wrenches 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 14:59:06 -0700
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] solar inter row shading
> HI All,
>
> I’m wondering if there is any programs/apps that do inter row shading?
> I can’t find any.
>
> RBI used to have one, it was really slick.
>
> Thanks
>
> jay
>
> peltz power
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Chris Mason 
> To: RE-wrenches 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 20:03:23 -0400
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] solar inter row shading
> Sketchup with Skelion
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 6:41 PM jay  wrote:
>
>> HI All,
>>
>> I’m wondering if there is any programs/apps that do inter row shading?
>> I can’t find any.
>>
>> RBI used to have one, it was really slick.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> jay
>>
>> peltz power
>>
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] solar inter row shading

2019-07-27 Thread William Miller

Jay:

I have a spreadsheet on our website that might do the trick. It gets 
complicated with non-flat ground and rows that are not due east-west. It’s been 
a long time since I used it but give it a try. 

MillerSolar.com, find resources tab. 

William

> On Jul 26, 2019, at 2:59 PM, jay  wrote:
> 
> HI All,
> 
> I’m wondering if there is any programs/apps that do inter row shading?
> I can’t find any.
> 
> RBI used to have one, it was really slick.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> jay
> 
> peltz power
> 
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