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Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?

2020-09-08 Thread Jay

Hi Joe

A correction

Both the 8 and 12kw are 9 kw inverters
In off grid mode according to the specs. 

For grid selling the 12kw is 12 kw.  

Jay
Peltz power

> On Sep 8, 2020, at 7:45 PM, MiJo Nels  wrote:
> 
> 
> we've found SolArk to be SOLID!! .. And yes 8 inv yield about 96kW, with a 
> TON of surge capabilities.. 
> 
> Joe Nelson
> 
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> Sustainable Energy Group Inc., A California Corporation
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> From: RE-wrenches  on behalf of 
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> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 1:24:03 PM
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> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?
>  
> I also suggest the Sol-Ark 12’s. Extremely efficient, simple to program, does 
> a wonderful job in either ac coupling, stand alone or pure off grid and 
> terrific customer support.
>  
> Peter Giroux
> ASAE
>  
> From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of 
> Bryan Norkunas
> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 1:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?
>  
> Sol-Arks would be possible, you can link 8 inverters.
>  
> Bryan
> PV-Cables
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> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On 
> Behalf Of Chris Schaefer
> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:40 AM
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> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?
>  
> I'd suggest giving the crew at Sol-Ark a quick call @ 972-575-8875 with their 
> 12kw unit. Not sure what their max number of inverters are.
>  
> Christopher
>  
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 1:14 PM Kienan Maxfield  
> wrote:
> Hey all, I'm designing a microgrid sized off-grid system for somebody, and 
> I'm just wondering if anyone knows of any issues with the following 
> designs... 
>  
> The client says he needs 70 kW. His load data looks pretty solid, so I'm 
> sticking to using that number as a minimum, at least during the initial 
> proposal stage. I only know of two possible equipment options for this size 
> range...
>  
> I think I can use up to 10 Outback Radians, for up to an 80 kW system. Are 
> there any bugs or problems with using this many inverters on one hub? I know 
> I've read about issues with selling to the grid, but that's not an issue, 
> this is off-grid.
> I know that the SMA cluster box with sunny islands can allow for up to a 72 
> kW system. Do you know of any bugs or problems with this system?
>  
>  
> Are there any other options that anyone would suggest? Schneider's website 
> says they can only do up to 61 kW, and Victron can only do up to 60 kW.
>  
>  
> I know that the Outback system would yield a 240/120 Split-Phase system and 
> that the SMA would yield a 208/120 3Ø system, but this doesn't really matter 
> either way for this job. 
>  
> Thanks so much,
> Kienan
>  
>  
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?

2020-09-08 Thread MiJo Nels

we've found SolArk to be SOLID!! .. And yes 8 inv yield about 96kW, with a TON 
of surge capabilities..

Joe Nelson

Project Manager C-46/C-10
Sustainable Energy Group Inc., A California Corporation

CSL# 868816
www.SustainableEnergyGroup.com
530-273-4422 (Office)

530-217-8385 (Cell)



   



From: RE-wrenches  on behalf of 
pgir...@mindspring.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 1:24:03 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches' 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?


I also suggest the Sol-Ark 12’s. Extremely efficient, simple to program, does a 
wonderful job in either ac coupling, stand alone or pure off grid and terrific 
customer support.



Peter Giroux

ASAE



From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of 
Bryan Norkunas
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 1:50 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches' 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?



Sol-Arks would be possible, you can link 8 inverters.



Bryan

PV-Cables













From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Chris Schaefer
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:40 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?



I'd suggest giving the crew at Sol-Ark a quick call @ 972-575-8875 with their 
12kw unit. Not sure what their max number of inverters are.



Christopher



On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 1:14 PM Kienan Maxfield 
mailto:maxfieldso...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hey all, I'm designing a microgrid sized off-grid system for somebody, and I'm 
just wondering if anyone knows of any issues with the following designs...



The client says he needs 70 kW. His load data looks pretty solid, so I'm 
sticking to using that number as a minimum, at least during the initial 
proposal stage. I only know of two possible equipment options for this size 
range...



  1.  I think I can use up to 10 Outback Radians, for up to an 80 kW system. 
Are there any bugs or problems with using this many inverters on one hub? I 
know I've read about issues with selling to the grid, but that's not an issue, 
this is off-grid.
  2.  I know that the SMA cluster box with sunny islands can allow for up to a 
72 kW system. Do you know of any bugs or problems with this system?





Are there any other options that anyone would suggest? Schneider's website says 
they can only do up to 61 kW, and Victron can only do up to 60 kW.





I know that the Outback system would yield a 240/120 Split-Phase system and 
that the SMA would yield a 208/120 3Ø system, but this doesn't really matter 
either way for this job.



Thanks so much,

Kienan





Maxfield Solar

maxfieldso...@hotmail.com

(801) 631-5584 (Cell)

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?

2020-09-08 Thread pgiroux

I also suggest the Sol-Ark 12’s. Extremely efficient, simple to program, does a 
wonderful job in either ac coupling, stand alone or pure off grid and terrific 
customer support.



Peter Giroux

ASAE



From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of 
Bryan Norkunas
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 1:50 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches' 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?



Sol-Arks would be possible, you can link 8 inverters.



Bryan

PV-Cables













From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Chris Schaefer
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:40 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?



I'd suggest giving the crew at Sol-Ark a quick call @ 972-575-8875 with their 
12kw unit. Not sure what their max number of inverters are.



Christopher



On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 1:14 PM Kienan Maxfield  
wrote:

Hey all, I'm designing a microgrid sized off-grid system for somebody, and I'm 
just wondering if anyone knows of any issues with the following designs...



The client says he needs 70 kW. His load data looks pretty solid, so I'm 
sticking to using that number as a minimum, at least during the initial 
proposal stage. I only know of two possible equipment options for this size 
range...



1.  I think I can use up to 10 Outback Radians, for up to an 80 kW system. 
Are there any bugs or problems with using this many inverters on one hub? I 
know I've read about issues with selling to the grid, but that's not an issue, 
this is off-grid.
2.  I know that the SMA cluster box with sunny islands can allow for up to 
a 72 kW system. Do you know of any bugs or problems with this system?





Are there any other options that anyone would suggest? Schneider's website says 
they can only do up to 61 kW, and Victron can only do up to 60 kW.





I know that the Outback system would yield a 240/120 Split-Phase system and 
that the SMA would yield a 208/120 3Ø system, but this doesn't really matter 
either way for this job.



Thanks so much,

Kienan





Maxfield Solar

  maxfieldso...@hotmail.com

(801) 631-5584 (Cell)

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?

2020-09-08 Thread Bryan Norkunas

Sol-Arks would be possible, you can link 8 inverters.

 

Bryan 

PV-Cables

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Chris Schaefer
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2020 10:40 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?

 

I'd suggest giving the crew at Sol-Ark a quick call @ 972-575-8875 with their 
12kw unit. Not sure what their max number of inverters are.

 

Christopher

 

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 1:14 PM Kienan Maxfield  
wrote:

Hey all, I'm designing a microgrid sized off-grid system for somebody, and I'm 
just wondering if anyone knows of any issues with the following designs... 

 

The client says he needs 70 kW. His load data looks pretty solid, so I'm 
sticking to using that number as a minimum, at least during the initial 
proposal stage. I only know of two possible equipment options for this size 
range...

 

1.  I think I can use up to 10 Outback Radians, for up to an 80 kW system. 
Are there any bugs or problems with using this many inverters on one hub? I 
know I've read about issues with selling to the grid, but that's not an issue, 
this is off-grid.
2.  I know that the SMA cluster box with sunny islands can allow for up to 
a 72 kW system. Do you know of any bugs or problems with this system?

 

 

Are there any other options that anyone would suggest? Schneider's website says 
they can only do up to 61 kW, and Victron can only do up to 60 kW.

 

 

I know that the Outback system would yield a 240/120 Split-Phase system and 
that the SMA would yield a 208/120 3Ø system, but this doesn't really matter 
either way for this job. 

 

Thanks so much,

Kienan

 

 

Maxfield Solar 

  maxfieldso...@hotmail.com

(801) 631-5584 (Cell)

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?

2020-09-08 Thread Chris Schaefer

I'd suggest giving the crew at Sol-Ark a quick call @ 972-575-8875 with
their 12kw unit. Not sure what their max number of inverters are.

Christopher

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 1:14 PM Kienan Maxfield 
wrote:

> Hey all, I'm designing a microgrid sized off-grid system for somebody, and
> I'm just wondering if anyone knows of any issues with the following
> designs...
>
> The client says he needs 70 kW. His load data looks pretty solid, so I'm
> sticking to using that number as a minimum, at least during the initial
> proposal stage. I only know of two possible equipment options for this size
> range...
>
>
>1. I think I can use up to 10 Outback Radians, for up to an 80 kW
>system. Are there any bugs or problems with using this many inverters on
>one hub? I know I've read about issues with selling to the grid, but that's
>not an issue, this is off-grid.
>
>2. I know that the SMA cluster box with sunny islands can allow for up
>to a 72 kW system. Do you know of any bugs or problems with this system?
>
>
>
> Are there any other options that anyone would suggest? Schneider's website
> says they can only do up to 61 kW, and Victron can only do up to 60 kW.
>
>
> I know that the Outback system would yield a 240/120 Split-Phase system
> and that the SMA would yield a 208/120 3Ø system, but this doesn't really
> matter either way for this job.
>
> Thanks so much,
> Kienan
>
>
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[RE-wrenches] Microgrid... Outback or SMA or other?

2020-09-08 Thread Kienan Maxfield

Hey all, I'm designing a microgrid sized off-grid system for somebody, and I'm 
just wondering if anyone knows of any issues with the following designs...

The client says he needs 70 kW. His load data looks pretty solid, so I'm 
sticking to using that number as a minimum, at least during the initial 
proposal stage. I only know of two possible equipment options for this size 
range...


  1.  I think I can use up to 10 Outback Radians, for up to an 80 kW system. 
Are there any bugs or problems with using this many inverters on one hub? I 
know I've read about issues with selling to the grid, but that's not an issue, 
this is off-grid.

  2.  I know that the SMA cluster box with sunny islands can allow for up to a 
72 kW system. Do you know of any bugs or problems with this system?


Are there any other options that anyone would suggest? Schneider's website says 
they can only do up to 61 kW, and Victron can only do up to 60 kW.


I know that the Outback system would yield a 240/120 Split-Phase system and 
that the SMA would yield a 208/120 3Ø system, but this doesn't really matter 
either way for this job.

Thanks so much,
Kienan


Maxfield Solar
maxfieldso...@hotmail.com
(801) 631-5584 (Cell)
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