Re: [RE-wrenches] Aurora PVI 4.2 inverter

[don]

Howie-Sounds like you may need a replacement Aurora inverter.I
 recently replaced one of these Aurora PVI 4.2-OUTD-S-US with a 5 kW 
SunnyBoy to get the Secure Power feature and upgrade to a larger size. This Aurora inverter is vintage 2013 like yours. It was working fine. The owner located in Fairfax CA  would like to sell it off inexpensively. Let me know if you are interested.Don BarchEnergy Solar Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 17:52:14 -0500 From: Howie Michaelson  To: RE-wrenches  Subject: [RE-wrenches] Aurora PVI 4.2 inverter Message-ID:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"  Hi All, Does anyone know if any manufacturer is currently responsible for warranty issues of 2013 Aurora PVI 4.2-OUTD-S-US inverters? I don't remember if this is an "ungrounded" inverter, but in any case, if it needs replacement, what are the code rules for replacing it with a different inverter? I believe it isn't required to upgrade to RSD equipment since it is just a repair. Any suggestions for a good replacement that will reasonably match the PVI's input DC voltage specs? Thanks, Howie  *Howie Michaelson**Sun Catcher*  *NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer?*  *Solar Electric Systems Sales & Service802-272-0004* -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:   --  Message: 2 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 18:01:17 -0500 From: Rich Nicol  To: RE-wrenches  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Aurora PVI 4.2 inverter Message-ID:  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"  Hi Howie ABB (now Fimer) 1-877-261-1374. They typically require specific photos for warranty. Error code 031 is common. Junk arc fault detector that require upgrade also common. Thanks Rich  Sent from my iPad  > On Nov 3, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Howie Michaelson  wrote: >  > ? > Hi All, > Does anyone know if any manufacturer is currently responsible for warranty issues of 2013 Aurora PVI 4.2-OUTD-S-US inverters?  > I don't remember if this is an "ungrounded" inverter, but in any case, if it needs replacement, what are the code rules for replacing it with a different inverter? I believe it isn't required to upgrade to RSD equipment since it is just a repair. Any suggestions for a good replacement that will reasonably match the PVI's input DC voltage specs? > Thanks, > Howie > Howie Michaelson > Sun Catcher > NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer? >  > Solar Electric Systems Sales & Service > 802-272-0004 > __


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Re: [RE-wrenches] factory module damage, has anyone seen this?

[Jay]

Hi Bill

The whole pallet of 35. All are bent. 
They are on the pallet sideways, not vertically stacked. 
No damage to the cardboard box, or any packaging. All Oem packaging, full 
pallet. 
No damage to the modules, not a scratch. 
Equal bend to the top and bottom of the modules
No damage to the pallet 
No gaps between modules, sides or top. 

I’m not sure if the pictures came through. 

I have talked with a friend who’s worked on a few hundred megawatts of install, 
he’s never seen this. 

So far Canadian solar has said nothing but that they are within spec ie it’s 
not a warranty issue. 

I’d say that it looks like I’m not going to get anything from them. No 
replacement, no discount.  Fair warning to all about buying from them. 

Jay








> On Nov 4, 2020, at 6:59 PM, frenergy  wrote:
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> Jay,
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> More details would help.  How many is "some"?  Were there just a 
> couple bent on a pallet of mostly flat ones?  Did you get less than a pallet 
> and they were all bent like this? I always suspect the forklift driver, we've 
> been "forked" many times.  Maybe this time he backed into the pallet?
> 
> Bill
> 
> Taylorsville
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>> On 11/4/2020 10:06 AM, jay wrote:
>> HI All,
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>> I have some Canadian Solar bifacial BiHiKu 400 watt 72 cell modules that are 
>> bent from the factory.
>> 
>> There is no pallet damage, and the bend is the same top and bottom.
>> 
>> My question is has anyone seen this before? I this normal?
>> CS says its within spec which seems BS to me.
>> What should I ask for from CS?
>> 
>> What about return shipping cost, would this be something that I’d have to 
>> pay or CS?
>> 
>> So far they have offered $.10 per watt.  
>> 
>> What would you all do?
>> 
>> thanks in advance
>> 
>> jay
>> 
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jay wrote at 01:06 PM 11/4/2020:
 
>HI All,
>
>I have some Canadian Solar bifacial BiHiKu 400 watt 72 cell modules that are 
>bent from the factory.
>
>There is no pallet damage, and the bend is the same top and bottom.
>
>My question is has anyone seen this before? I this normal?
>CS says its within spec which seems BS to me.
>What should I ask for from CS?
>
>What about return shipping cost, would this be something that I’d have to 
>pay or CS?
>
>So far they have offered $.10 per watt.  
>
>What would you all do?
>
>thanks in advance
>
>jay
>
>Peltz Power

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Re: [RE-wrenches] factory module damage, has anyone seen this?

[Dana Orzel]

I have never seen pre-flexed modules.

I would expect your supplier to replace & collect them freight prepaid or not 
ever deal with them. That is not new spec equipment.

 

 

 

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From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 2:53 PM
To: RE-wrenches 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] factory module damage, has anyone seen this?

 

Hi Dana. 

 

I did think of that ( all kidding aside)but given the response from CS, I don’t 
think it’s normal. 

 

 

Weird to even think how you’d assemble it. Is the glass prebent or the frame or 
both?

 

I did hear from someone offsite they’d seen it on REC. 

 

Jay

 

 

 

 





On Nov 4, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Dana Orzel  wrote:



If they are Canadian maybe they are pre-flexed for snow load. Those crafty 
Canadians!

 

 

 

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From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of jay
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 11:07 AM
To: RE-wrenches 
Subject: [RE-wrenches] factory module damage, has anyone seen this?

 

HI All,

 

I have some Canadian Solar bifacial BiHiKu 400 watt 72 cell modules that are 
bent from the factory.

 

There is no pallet damage, and the bend is the same top and bottom.

 

My question is has anyone seen this before? I this normal?

CS says its within spec which seems BS to me.

What should I ask for from CS?

 

What about return shipping cost, would this be something that I’d have to pay 
or CS?

 

So far they have offered $.10 per watt.  

 

What would you all do?

 

thanks in advance

 

jay

 

Peltz Power

 

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Re: [RE-wrenches] factory module damage, has anyone seen this?

[Jay]

Hi Dana. 

I did think of that ( all kidding aside)but given the response from CS, I don’t 
think it’s normal. 


Weird to even think how you’d assemble it. Is the glass prebent or the frame or 
both?

I did hear from someone offsite they’d seen it on REC. 

Jay





> On Nov 4, 2020, at 2:45 PM, Dana Orzel  wrote:
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> If they are Canadian maybe they are pre-flexed for snow load. Those crafty 
> Canadians!
>  
>  
>  
> Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.
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> Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374
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> From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of jay
> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 11:07 AM
> To: RE-wrenches 
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] factory module damage, has anyone seen this?
>  
> HI All,
>  
> I have some Canadian Solar bifacial BiHiKu 400 watt 72 cell modules that are 
> bent from the factory.
>  
> There is no pallet damage, and the bend is the same top and bottom.
>  
> My question is has anyone seen this before? I this normal?
> CS says its within spec which seems BS to me.
> What should I ask for from CS?
>  
> What about return shipping cost, would this be something that I’d have to pay 
> or CS?
>  
> So far they have offered $.10 per watt.  
>  
> What would you all do?
>  
> thanks in advance
>  
> jay
>  
> Peltz Power
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