Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Tom Duffy]

Hi Jason

RELiON makes what you’re looking for in 24 volts

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I just replaced a 48V Lithionics battery with a 51V and I saw on their spec 
sheet that they do 12V and 24V as well. It seems like a very solid battery and 
BMS, but I have limited information on longevity.






On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:09 PM Chris Schaefer 
mailto:ch...@solarandwindfx.com>> wrote:
G'Day All,

Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace current AGM  
SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but severely abused. Client 
won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very sensitive to smells.

Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties 
locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way please 
let me know.

So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest for a 
heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?

Thanks,
Christopher-

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Darryl Thayer]

I like the UnigyII or the Trojan AGMs, just started a set of Firefly AGM.
 going to LiFePO is very expensive.  I have usually had better than 4 years
on AGM, Are they overcharging?  Undercharging? Do they have auto gen
start?  For Li-Ion I have some good experience with Kilovault by AltE it is
a LiFePO and can be series connected to make 24-Volt.  I do not know about
parallel and the size for what you need.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 3:09 PM Chris Schaefer 
wrote:

> G'Day All,
>
> Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace current
> AGM  SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but severely
> abused. Client won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very
> sensitive to smells.
>
> Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties
> locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way
> please let me know.
>
> So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest for
> a heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?
>
> Thanks,
> Christopher-
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar]

This is the main problem with a battery that relies on the electronics
inside to function. You have added another failure mode to a very basic and
reliable battery. The manufacturer has to be in business for us to spend 3+
times the price on LA for LFP to make sense. 

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 06:40:56
-0400, Jason Szumlanski  wrote:  I just replaced a 48V Lithionics battery
with a 51V and I saw on their spec sheet that they do 12V and 24V as well.
It seems like a very solid battery and BMS, but I have limited information
on longevity.  

  On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:09 PM Chris Schaefer 
wrote:  G'Day All,   Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking
to replace current AGM SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them
but severely abused. Client won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because
they are very sensitive to smells.Thus I was considering LiFePo4
batteries however I'm having difficulties locating them in a 24v bank. If
you know of anyone that goes that way please let me know.   So if I'm stuck
with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest for a heavy usage
(1,500 Ahrs +) home?Thanks, Christopher-

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Jason Szumlanski]

I just replaced a 48V Lithionics battery with a 51V and I saw on their spec
sheet that they do 12V and 24V as well. It seems like a very solid battery
and BMS, but I have limited information on longevity.




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wrote:

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>
> Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace current
> AGM  SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but severely
> abused. Client won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very
> sensitive to smells.
>
> Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties
> locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way
> please let me know.
>
> So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest for
> a heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?
>
> Thanks,
> Christopher-
>
> Chris Schaefer’s
>
> 
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[frenergy]

If you download the Discover Installation manual, page 6 and 7, they 
state the cables should also be the same length.


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On 3/29/2019 9:11 AM, Jay wrote:

Hi Howie,

My main reason is zero monitoring.
And that is the reason all cabling is supposed to be the same lengths, 
to try and use each battery equally because they don’t talk to each 
other.



It’s why I like the Discoverer. Many batteries have Bluetooth info, 
but they have that and external gauge and for Schneider, they are 
Xanbus comm ready.


Jay

Peltz Power.

On Mar 29, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Howie Michaelson 
mailto:howie.michael...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Jerry,
I'm looking at all the lithium options out there for an application 
phycisist client who wants a lithium backup system. Can you elaborate 
on why Simplify is slow low on your list?

Thanks,
Howie


On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 12:00 AM Jerry Shafer  wrote:


Wrenches
I agree with Kevin, the Unigyll are a great option, simplify
would not not even be on my top 10.
Jerry

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 8:55 PM Kevin Pegg
mailto:kp...@energyalternatives.ca>> wrote:

Hi,

The East Penn UnigyII 2V AGM batteries would be my
recommendation. Can go up to 2,100 Ah with single string of
12 x 2V cells. More if you parallel of course.

Kevin





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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar]

Agree with Jay and adding they are too small in capacity. Even the
Discover at 6.6kwh is on the edge. However, as Jay said, they do talk with
each other and have a mode where they will work with Outback and Magnum.
They are the cats meow on a Schneider system as there is not much to
program. Dave Angelini / Offgrid Solar 

On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 09:11:31
-0700, Jay  wrote:Hi Howie,   My main reason is zero monitoring.  And
that is the reason all cabling is supposed to be the same lengths, to try
and use each battery equally because they don't talk to each other. 
It's why I like the Discoverer. Many batteries have Bluetooth info, but
they have that and external gauge and for Schneider, they are Xanbus comm
ready.Jay   Peltz Power.  
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Michaelson  wrote:

   Jerry, I'm looking at all the lithium options out
there for an application phycisist client who wants a lithium backup
system. Can you elaborate on why Simplify is slow low on your list? Thanks,
Howie 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Jay]

Hi Howie,

My main reason is zero monitoring. 
And that is the reason all cabling is supposed to be the same lengths, to try 
and use each battery equally because they don’t talk to each other. 


It’s why I like the Discoverer. Many batteries have Bluetooth info, but they 
have that and external gauge and for Schneider, they are Xanbus comm ready. 

Jay

Peltz Power. 

> On Mar 29, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Howie Michaelson  
> wrote:
> 
> Jerry,
> I'm looking at all the lithium options out there for an application phycisist 
> client who wants a lithium backup system. Can you elaborate on why Simplify 
> is slow low on your list?
> Thanks,
> Howie
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 12:00 AM Jerry Shafer > Wrenches
>> I agree with Kevin, the Unigyll are a great option, simplify would not not 
>> even be on my top 10.
>> Jerry
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 8:55 PM Kevin Pegg  
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The East Penn UnigyII 2V AGM batteries would be my recommendation. Can go 
>>> up to 2,100 Ah with single string of 12 x 2V cells. More if you parallel of 
>>> course.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Chris Schaefer
>>> Sent: March-28-19 1:09 PM
>>> To: RE-wrenches 
>>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> G'Day All,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace current 
>>> AGM  SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but severely 
>>> abused. Client won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very 
>>> sensitive to smells. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties 
>>> locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way 
>>> please let me know.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest for 
>>> a heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Christopher- 
>>> 
>>> Chris Schaefer’s
>>> 
>>> Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 
>>> 5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York 14424
>>> www.solarandwindfx.com ~ E-mail: ch...@solarandwindfx.com
>>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Andrew]

Hey Howie,

I would recommend staying away from them as well, I had a 
faulty battery out of the box and it was a nightmare to get them to warranty 
it, took about 2 months of back and forth for them to agree to warranty the 
battery. Discover has an excellent YouTube video on the breakdown of the 
internals theirs vs. the competitor and it’s pretty eye opening.

 

 

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From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Howie Michaelson
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 8:51 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

 

Jerry,

I'm looking at all the lithium options out there for an application phycisist 
client who wants a lithium backup system. Can you elaborate on why Simplify is 
slow low on your list?

Thanks,

Howie

 

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 12:00 AM Jerry Shafer  wrote:

Hi, 

 

The East Penn UnigyII 2V AGM batteries would be my recommendation. Can go up to 
2,100 Ah with single string of 12 x 2V cells. More if you parallel of course. 

 

Kevin

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Chris Schaefer
Sent: March-28-19 1:09 PM
To: RE-wrenches 
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

 

G'Day All,

 

Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace current AGM  
SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but severely abused. Client 
won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very sensitive to 
smells. 

 

Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties 
locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way please 
let me know.

 

So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest for a 
heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?

 

Thanks,

Christopher- 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Howie Michaelson]

Jerry,
I'm looking at all the lithium options out there for an application
phycisist client who wants a lithium backup system. Can you elaborate on
why Simplify is slow low on your list?
Thanks,
Howie


On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 12:00 AM Jerry Shafer  Wrenches
> I agree with Kevin, the Unigyll are a great option, simplify would not not
> even be on my top 10.
> Jerry
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 8:55 PM Kevin Pegg 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> The East Penn UnigyII 2V AGM batteries would be my recommendation. Can go
>> up to 2,100 Ah with single string of 12 x 2V cells. More if you parallel of
>> course.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Chris Schaefer
>> *Sent:* March-28-19 1:09 PM
>> *To:* RE-wrenches 
>> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries
>>
>>
>>
>> G'Day All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace current
>> AGM  SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but severely
>> abused. Client won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very
>> sensitive to smells.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties
>> locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way
>> please let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>> So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest
>> for a heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Christopher-
>>
>> Chris Schaefer’s
>> <http://www.solarandwindfx.com>
>>
>> *Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870  *
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Jerry Shafer]

Wrenches
I agree with Kevin, the Unigyll are a great option, simplify would not not
even be on my top 10.
Jerry

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 8:55 PM Kevin Pegg 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> The East Penn UnigyII 2V AGM batteries would be my recommendation. Can go
> up to 2,100 Ah with single string of 12 x 2V cells. More if you parallel of
> course.
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Chris Schaefer
> *Sent:* March-28-19 1:09 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches 
> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries
>
>
>
> G'Day All,
>
>
>
> Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace current
> AGM  SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but severely
> abused. Client won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very
> sensitive to smells.
>
>
>
> Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties
> locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way
> please let me know.
>
>
>
> So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest for
> a heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christopher-
>
> Chris Schaefer’s
> <http://www.solarandwindfx.com>
>
> *Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870  *
> *5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York 14424 www.solarandwindfx.com
> <http://www.solarandwindfx.com> ~ E-mail: **ch...@solarandwindfx.com
> *
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Kevin Pegg]

Hi,

The East Penn UnigyII 2V AGM batteries would be my recommendation. Can go up to 
2,100 Ah with single string of 12 x 2V cells. More if you parallel of course.

Kevin

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Chris Schaefer
Sent: March-28-19 1:09 PM
To: RE-wrenches 
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

G'Day All,

Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace current AGM  
SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but severely abused. Client 
won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very sensitive to smells.

Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties 
locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way please 
let me know.

So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest for a 
heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?

Thanks,
Christopher-

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Andrew]

Also Relion, https://relionbattery.com/products/lithium

 

 

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From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Ray
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 1:40 PM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

 

Both Simpliphi and Life Blue can be set up in 24 v configurations.

Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 3/28/19 2:08 PM, Chris Schaefer wrote:

G'Day All, 

 

Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace current AGM  
SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but severely abused. Client 
won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very sensitive to 
smells. 

 

Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties 
locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way please 
let me know.

 

So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest for a 
heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?

 

Thanks,

Christopher- 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Ray]

Both Simpliphi and Life Blue can be set up in 24 v configurations.

Ray Walters
Remote Solar
303 505-8760

On 3/28/19 2:08 PM, Chris Schaefer wrote:

G'Day All,

Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace 
current AGM  SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but 
severely abused. Client won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because 
they are very sensitive to smells.


Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having 
difficulties locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that 
goes that way please let me know.


So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest 
for a heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?


Thanks,
Christopher-

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ch...@solarandwindfx.com /


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Jay]

Hi Christopher 

I’d look at Discover battery. 
Have external monitors, battery to battery comm
And Xanbus if you have Schneider inverters. 

It seems more advanced than Simpliphi 

Jay
Peltz power. 

> On Mar 28, 2019, at 1:12 PM, Lorenzo Ortiz  wrote:
> 
> Simpliphi has 24V Lithium
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 1:09 PM Chris Schaefer  
>> wrote:
>> G'Day All,
>> 
>> Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace current AGM 
>>  SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but severely abused. 
>> Client won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very sensitive 
>> to smells. 
>> 
>> Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties 
>> locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way please 
>> let me know.
>> 
>> So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest for a 
>> heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christopher- 
>> Chris Schaefer’s
>> 
>> Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 
>> 5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York 14424
>> www.solarandwindfx.com ~ E-mail: ch...@solarandwindfx.com
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar]

Chris, 

That is a big battery you need. I think you should take them to
48V. Both Iron Edison and Discover AES build LFP solutions without having
to parallel too many batteries. 
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 16:08:56
-0400, Chris Schaefer  wrote:  G'Day All,   Came across an older DIY 24v
off-grid system. Looking to replace current AGM SunXtender batteries with
less then 4 years on them but severely abused. Client won't go for my
normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very sensitive to smells.Thus I
was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties locating
them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way please let me
know.   So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you
suggest for a heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?Thanks, Christopher- 
 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Lorenzo Ortiz]

Simpliphi has 24V Lithium


On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 1:09 PM Chris Schaefer 
wrote:

> G'Day All,
>
> Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace current
> AGM  SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but severely
> abused. Client won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very
> sensitive to smells.
>
> Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties
> locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way
> please let me know.
>
> So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest for
> a heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?
>
> Thanks,
> Christopher-
>
> Chris Schaefer’s
> 
>
> *Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 *
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[RE-wrenches] Big AGM's and 24V Lithium batteries

[Chris Schaefer]

G'Day All,

Came across an older DIY 24v off-grid system. Looking to replace current
AGM  SunXtender batteries with less then 4 years on them but severely
abused. Client won't go for my normal Rolls/Surrette because they are very
sensitive to smells.

Thus I was considering LiFePo4 batteries however I'm having difficulties
locating them in a 24v bank. If you know of anyone that goes that way
please let me know.

So if I'm stuck with AGM's stored indoors what brand would you suggest for
a heavy usage (1,500 Ahrs +) home?

Thanks,
Christopher-

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