Re: [RE-wrenches] LiPO with Trace SW5548
I would consider a 15 cell (3.2 volts per cell) Lithium Iron Phosphate battery such as FNS (UL Listed 15 cell). This puts the LBCO at about 47.6-48.0V or so. A 15 series cell battery puts the voltage in line with the LBCO of the Trace inverter without an auxiliary contactor triggered by the charge controller or another device. EIther way works, but then you don't have to worry about tripping out the low battery at the BMS instead of the inverter. I will say that the Fortress is a nice quick install if you don't have to lift it but the 48V LBCO limit will need to be dealt with in a 16 cell battery. Let us know what you decide. Cheers On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 10:05 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Ok, Fortress and Simplifi for the two that I was considering. As long as > there are no issues with lack of closed loop communication, it sounds like > those are the way to go. > > Jason Szumlanski > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2022, 11:37 AM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> Fortress Evault max, good form factor, simple >> Jerry >> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022, 3:05 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches < >> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >> >>> Any suggestions for LiPO batteries that play nice with the SW5548? This >>> system also has an Outback CC for a pretty small PV array (rating TBD). >>> >>> Based on some pics I received from the client, the current lead acid >>> battery appears to be around 40kWh and was slightly undersized, so I'd be >>> looking for LiPO around 30kWh. >>> >>> Jason Szumlanski >>> Florida Solar Design Group >>> ___ >>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>> >>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>> >>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >>> >>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> >>> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try >>> the other: >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>> >>> List rules & etiquette: >>> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >>> >>> Check out or update participant bios: >>> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >>> >>> ___ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > -- Mac Lewis *"Yo solo sé que no sé nada." -Sócrates* ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] LiPO with Trace SW5548
Ok, Fortress and Simplifi for the two that I was considering. As long as there are no issues with lack of closed loop communication, it sounds like those are the way to go. Jason Szumlanski On Wed, Jul 13, 2022, 11:37 AM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Fortress Evault max, good form factor, simple > Jerry > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2022, 3:05 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> Any suggestions for LiPO batteries that play nice with the SW5548? This >> system also has an Outback CC for a pretty small PV array (rating TBD). >> >> Based on some pics I received from the client, the current lead acid >> battery appears to be around 40kWh and was slightly undersized, so I'd be >> looking for LiPO around 30kWh. >> >> Jason Szumlanski >> Florida Solar Design Group >> ___ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >> >> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the >> other: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] LiPO with Trace SW5548
Fortress Evault max, good form factor, simple Jerry On Wed, Jul 13, 2022, 3:05 AM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Any suggestions for LiPO batteries that play nice with the SW5548? This > system also has an Outback CC for a pretty small PV array (rating TBD). > > Based on some pics I received from the client, the current lead acid > battery appears to be around 40kWh and was slightly undersized, so I'd be > looking for LiPO around 30kWh. > > Jason Szumlanski > Florida Solar Design Group > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the > other: > https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > http://www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] LiPO with Trace SW5548
Just stack 8 SimpliPhi 3.8's for your 30 Kwhrs. Bill Feather River Solar Electric Bill Battagin, Owner 4291 Nelson St. Taylorsville, CA 95983 530.284.7849 CA Lic 874049 On 7/13/2022 4:14 AM, Jeremy Rodriguez via RE-wrenches wrote: I’d look at the Simpliphi brand We’ve had good luck, however they were smaller in size at 3.8KW Perhaps they make a larger battery for your needs. Jeremy Rodriguez Solar Installation / Design Expert All Solar, Inc. 1453 M St Penrose Colorado 81240 Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand. On Jul 13, 2022, at 4:05 AM, Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches wrote: Any suggestions for LiPO batteries that play nice with the SW5548? This system also has an Outback CC for a pretty small PV array (rating TBD). Based on some pics I received from the client, the current lead acid battery appears to be around 40kWh and was slightly undersized, so I'd be looking for LiPO around 30kWh. Jason Szumlanski Florida Solar Design Group ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] LiPO with Trace SW5548
I’d look at the Simpliphi brand We’ve had good luck, however they were smaller in size at 3.8KW Perhaps they make a larger battery for your needs. Jeremy Rodriguez Solar Installation / Design Expert All Solar, Inc. 1453 M St Penrose Colorado 81240 Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand. On Jul 13, 2022, at 4:05 AM, Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches wrote: Any suggestions for LiPO batteries that play nice with the SW5548? This system also has an Outback CC for a pretty small PV array (rating TBD). Based on some pics I received from the client, the current lead acid battery appears to be around 40kWh and was slightly undersized, so I'd be looking for LiPO around 30kWh. Jason Szumlanski Florida Solar Design Group ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] LiPO with Trace SW5548
Any suggestions for LiPO batteries that play nice with the SW5548? This system also has an Outback CC for a pretty small PV array (rating TBD). Based on some pics I received from the client, the current lead acid battery appears to be around 40kWh and was slightly undersized, so I'd be looking for LiPO around 30kWh. Jason Szumlanski Florida Solar Design Group ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
